# ANNOUNCE: Git Forum 9 messages from 2008-04-08 to 2008-04-09. Participants: Dill, Kenneth P. Turvey, Patrick Aljord, Martin Langhoff, Sverre Rabbelier, Avery Pennarun, DigitalPig, Robert Haines, Daniel Barkalow. Thread: https://gitlist.dev/t/13024 ## Dill, 2008-04-08 20:32 Subject: ANNOUNCE: Git Forum Message-ID: <60646ee10804081332n3f0d9668o514bd2b6f99b7ae@mail.gmail.com> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/60646ee10804081332n3f0d9668o514bd2b6f99b7ae%40mail.gmail.com ``` Hello, I'm trying to set up a Git forum at: http://gitforum.freeforums.org/ (will purchase a git specific domain once I get the required donations...I'm too poor to buy one myself) The forum might also help move some newbies off this mailing list and provide a place for the Git community to discuss stuff. It is hoped that this forum will be the main site Git users will visit when they want help and want to discuss Git topics with other Git users. This forum will allow the Git community discuss with each other and by doing so create an excellent online reference on the web for others to read and get help. A place for Git users to help other Git users. Donations are set up so the site can afford to buy a git specific domain and pay for improvements to the site. Once I get enough money I'll purchase gitforum.com or something. Any donations will go to the improvement of the site. Thank you and I hope you enjoy the forum. I am also looking for moderators if anyones interested. Just PM me in the forum. Dylan. ``` ## Kenneth P. Turvey, 2008-04-08 21:19 Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Git Forum Message-ID: URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/ftgngb%24l9m%241%40ger.gmane.org In-Reply-To: <60646ee10804081332n3f0d9668o514bd2b6f99b7ae@mail.gmail.com> ``` On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 14:32:59 -0600, Dill wrote: > Hello, I'm trying to set up a Git forum at: > > http://gitforum.freeforums.org/ > (will purchase a git specific domain once I get the required > donations...I'm too poor to buy one myself) > > The forum might also help move some newbies off this mailing list and > provide a place for the Git community to discuss stuff. It is hoped that > this forum will be the main site Git users will visit when they want > help and want to discuss Git topics with other Git users. This forum > will allow the Git community discuss with each other and by doing so > create an excellent online reference on the web for others to read and > get help. A place for Git users to help other Git users. Donations are > set up so the site can afford to buy a git specific domain and pay for > improvements to the site. Once I get enough money I'll purchase > gitforum.com or something. Any donations will go to the improvement of > the site. Thank you and I hope you enjoy the forum. > > I am also looking for moderators if anyones interested. Just PM me in > the forum. Dylan. I might be interested in this, but why the web forum format? Why not just set up a git-users mailing list instead? Archive it on the web if you want, but a mailing list is more suited to this kind of thing.. or better yet a newsgroup. I usually read my mailing lists through gmane's NNTP server anyway (like this one). -- Kenneth P. Turvey ``` ## Patrick Aljord, 2008-04-08 23:01 Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Git Forum Message-ID: <6b6419750804081601k3f3b3853pce22c6b14d765327@mail.gmail.com> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/6b6419750804081601k3f3b3853pce22c6b14d765327%40mail.gmail.com In-Reply-To: ``` On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Kenneth P. Turvey > I might be interested in this, but why the web forum format? Why not > just set up a git-users mailing list instead? Done :) here it is: http://groups.google.com/group/git-users ``` ## Martin Langhoff, 2008-04-08 23:07 Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Git Forum Message-ID: <46a038f90804081607v64df6b5q345249a967dd854f@mail.gmail.com> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/46a038f90804081607v64df6b5q345249a967dd854f%40mail.gmail.com In-Reply-To: <6b6419750804081601k3f3b3853pce22c6b14d765327@mail.gmail.com> ``` On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Patrick Aljord wrote: > here it is: http://groups.google.com/group/git-users Is it clear to everyone here that splitting a community does not make it stronger? m -- martin.langhoff@gmail.com martin@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ``` ## Sverre Rabbelier, 2008-04-08 23:18 Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Git Forum Message-ID: URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/bd6139dc0804081618n4374c7c8scf4b3014f426c3fd%40mail.gmail.com In-Reply-To: <46a038f90804081607v64df6b5q345249a967dd854f@mail.gmail.com> ``` On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 1:07 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Patrick Aljord wrote: > > here it is: http://groups.google.com/group/git-users > > Is it clear to everyone here that splitting a community does not make > it stronger? I agree that splitting it might not make it stronger but it might increase the signal/noise ratio and make it less daunting for users to ask a question. Even so, the "how to ask smart questions guide" [1] advises users to try the 'user' list first if there is one available. Then again, as mentioned earlier in the thread there are arguments to be said in favor of just one list. [1] http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Sverre Rabbelier ``` ## Avery Pennarun, 2008-04-08 23:18 Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Git Forum Message-ID: <32541b130804081618rfaca3barb8ffbb78241ee8b5@mail.gmail.com> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/32541b130804081618rfaca3barb8ffbb78241ee8b5%40mail.gmail.com In-Reply-To: <46a038f90804081607v64df6b5q345249a967dd854f@mail.gmail.com> ``` On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 7:07 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Patrick Aljord wrote: > > here it is: http://groups.google.com/group/git-users > > Is it clear to everyone here that splitting a community does not make > it stronger? One interesting point is that the current list might have *too much* discussion. I hesitated to join for quite a while in case I couldn't keep up with the traffic (and yes, it's hard to keep up with the traffic :)) >From that point of view, perhaps "making the community stronger" is not the goal at all. Perhaps a valid goal is to fracture the community so that more people can participate in a community in the first place. Have fun, Avery ``` ## DigitalPig, 2008-04-09 00:49 Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Git Forum Message-ID: <87d4ozsvh5.fsf@bottom.com> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/87d4ozsvh5.fsf%40bottom.com In-Reply-To: <32541b130804081618rfaca3barb8ffbb78241ee8b5@mail.gmail.com> ``` "Avery Pennarun" writes: > On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 7:07 PM, Martin Langhoff > wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Patrick Aljord wrote: >> > here it is: http://groups.google.com/group/git-users >> >> Is it clear to everyone here that splitting a community does not make >> it stronger? > > One interesting point is that the current list might have *too much* > discussion. I hesitated to join for quite a while in case I couldn't > keep up with the traffic (and yes, it's hard to keep up with the > traffic :)) > > From that point of view, perhaps "making the community stronger" is > not the goal at all. Perhaps a valid goal is to fracture the > community so that more people can participate in a community in the > first place. > > Have fun, > > Avery I agree with that. For me, each day this group shows 200+ topics when I opened Gnus. I think this could be divided into two groups, one for git-user and the other for git-devel. -- DigitalPig E-mail: digitalpiglee AT gmail DOT com ALL WE SEEN IS ILLUSION. ``` ## Robert Haines, 2008-04-09 16:57 Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Git Forum Message-ID: <721CA911-6880-4A52-8228-005EA1FF8E11@manchester.ac.uk> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/721CA911-6880-4A52-8228-005EA1FF8E11%40manchester.ac.uk In-Reply-To: <87d4ozsvh5.fsf@bottom.com> ``` On 9 Apr 2008, at 01:49, DigitalPig wrote: > "Avery Pennarun" writes: > >> On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 7:07 PM, Martin Langhoff >> wrote: >>> On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Patrick Aljord >>> wrote: >>>> here it is: http://groups.google.com/group/git-users >>> >>> Is it clear to everyone here that splitting a community does not >>> make >>> it stronger? >> >> One interesting point is that the current list might have *too much* >> discussion. I hesitated to join for quite a while in case I couldn't >> keep up with the traffic (and yes, it's hard to keep up with the >> traffic :)) >> >> From that point of view, perhaps "making the community stronger" is >> not the goal at all. Perhaps a valid goal is to fracture the >> community so that more people can participate in a community in the >> first place. >> >> Have fun, >> >> Avery > I agree with that. For me, each day this group shows 200+ topics > when I > opened Gnus. I think this could be divided into two groups, one for > git-user and the other for git-devel. This is missing the point slightly. If you ask a question on this list now it will be read by a lot of people who know git intimately and will help in very short order. These are the people who come to the list for other things (development discussions, patches, etc). If you split the group these people will not see your questions so they won't get answered. How does that help the community or make it stronger? It might well fracture the community into two groups: One that is now free to get even more development done, and one that never gets any of its questions answered! That said, this list is very high traffic. If you want to reduce that why not filter out all mails with things like "[PATCH", "[BUG]", etc in the title and you'll just about have your git-users list! Cheers, Rob ``` ## Daniel Barkalow, 2008-04-09 18:08 Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Git Forum Message-ID: URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/alpine.LNX.1.00.0804091358590.19665%40iabervon.org In-Reply-To: <32541b130804081618rfaca3barb8ffbb78241ee8b5@mail.gmail.com> ``` On Tue, 8 Apr 2008, Avery Pennarun wrote: > On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 7:07 PM, Martin Langhoff > wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Patrick Aljord wrote: > > > here it is: http://groups.google.com/group/git-users > > > > Is it clear to everyone here that splitting a community does not make > > it stronger? > > One interesting point is that the current list might have *too much* > discussion. I hesitated to join for quite a while in case I couldn't > keep up with the traffic (and yes, it's hard to keep up with the > traffic :)) We actually encourage people to send email to the list without subscribing if they just have a particular question they'd like answered and don't want a ton of other mail. -Daniel *This .sig left intentionally blank* ```