# Suggestion for mailing lists... split [PATCH]-es into own list

13 messages from 2007-10-11 to 2007-10-12. Participants: Thomas Harning Jr., Johannes Schindelin, 银平, Jean-Luc Herren, Steven Grimm, Alex Riesen, Baz, franky, Martin Langhoff, Simon Sasburg, Lars Hjemli.
Thread: https://gitlist.dev/t/10249

## Thomas Harning Jr., 2007-10-11 15:57

Subject: Suggestion for mailing lists... split [PATCH]-es into own list
Message-ID: <e47324780710110857s472bf099u3e350d17a2c29f78@mail.gmail.com>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/e47324780710110857s472bf099u3e350d17a2c29f78%40mail.gmail.com

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I use gmail as my mail client and it doesn't grok 'PATCH' filters
(primarily the case of the word).

Are there any of you using Gmail that has managed to get around this issue....?

Perhaps we should have a separate mailing list for patches vs discussion.

-- 
Thomas Harning Jr.

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## Johannes Schindelin, 2007-10-11 16:07

Subject: Re: Suggestion for mailing lists... split [PATCH]-es into own list
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URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/Pine.LNX.4.64.0710111704570.4174%40racer.site
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Hi,

On Thu, 11 Oct 2007, Thomas Harning Jr. wrote:

> I use gmail as my mail client and it doesn't grok 'PATCH' filters 
> (primarily the case of the word).

That's just another bug in gmail.

> Are there any of you using Gmail that has managed to get around this 
> issue....?

We did not even find a way to post patches via gmail's web interface, not 
without severely damaging the patches.  So I guess no, most of us avoid 
the web interface (unless absolutely necessary, in which case we resort to 
the less than brilliant solution to attach the patches).

> Perhaps we should have a separate mailing list for patches vs 
> discussion.

I, for one, am totally opposed to this split.  All too often valuable 
_user_ discussions turn into _technical_ discussions, and thence into a 
throwing back and forth patches.

Ciao,
Dscho

```

## 银平, 2007-10-11 16:37

Subject: Is it possible for git to support binary differencing for binary files?
Message-ID: <20071011163746.DEB147E6F@mail.kooxoo.com>
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Hi. 
Storing binary files as deltas is helpful to keep source and binary files
together and in sync  So is it possible for git to do that as svn. This is
my only pain when using git.

```

## Jean-Luc Herren, 2007-10-11 17:54

Subject: Re: Is it possible for git to support binary differencing for binary files?
Message-ID: <470E633D.8060107@gmx.ch>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/470E633D.8060107%40gmx.ch
In-Reply-To: <20071011163746.DEB147E6F@mail.kooxoo.com>

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银平 wrote:
> Hi. 
> Storing binary files as deltas is helpful [...] So is it
> possible for git to do that as svn. This is my only pain when
> using git.

Yes, and git does this already in pack files.  Maybe you're not
seeing it because you haven't packed anything yet.  Try to run
'git gc'.

jlh

```

## Steven Grimm, 2007-10-11 18:00

Subject: Re: Suggestion for mailing lists... split [PATCH]-es into own list
Message-ID: <470E64C0.1070904@midwinter.com>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/470E64C0.1070904%40midwinter.com
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Thomas Harning Jr. wrote:
> Perhaps we should have a separate mailing list for patches vs discussion.
>   

This list is somewhat unusual in that the two are not really distinct. 
Most of the discussion (or at least a huge percentage of it) is in 
response to patches or results in patches somewhere along the line, with 
updated versions of those patches intermingled with feedback. Having to 
bounce back and forth between two mailing lists for all that would 
seriously impair the flow of ideas / improvements here.

-Steve

```

## Alex Riesen, 2007-10-11 18:15

Subject: Re: Is it possible for git to support binary differencing for binary files?
Message-ID: <20071011181518.GB2804@steel.home>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/20071011181518.GB2804%40steel.home
In-Reply-To: <20071011163746.DEB147E6F@mail.kooxoo.com>

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银平, Thu, Oct 11, 2007 18:37:43 +0200:
> Hi. 
> Storing binary files as deltas is helpful to keep source and binary files
> together and in sync  So is it possible for git to do that as svn. This is
> my only pain when using git.

Why? Git works perfectly with binary files. In fact, some of my repos
have more binaries than text.

```

## Baz, 2007-10-11 22:53

Subject: Re: Suggestion for mailing lists... split [PATCH]-es into own list
Message-ID: <2faad3050710111553x3ec8a2abh1ec20f2683a019dd@mail.gmail.com>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/2faad3050710111553x3ec8a2abh1ec20f2683a019dd%40mail.gmail.com
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On 11/10/2007, Thomas Harning Jr. <harningt@gmail.com> wrote:
> I use gmail as my mail client and it doesn't grok 'PATCH' filters
> (primarily the case of the word).
>
> Are there any of you using Gmail that has managed to get around this issue....?

Try this in the 'has the words' box (the whole thing):
to:git@vger.kernel.org -("+++ b" subject:"[PATCH")

Obviously get rid of the '-' for the other filter you'll want. Patches
that lead to discussion will probably get both tags. The "+++ b" is so
you don't class mails that don't have a patch in the body as patch
mails.

> Perhaps we should have a separate mailing list for patches vs discussion.
>
> --
> Thomas Harning Jr.
> -
> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe git" in
> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org
> More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
>

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## franky, 2007-10-12 03:01

Subject: RE: Is it possible for git to support binary differencing for binary files?
Message-ID: <20071012030112.024F27E6F@mail.kooxoo.com>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/20071012030112.024F27E6F%40mail.kooxoo.com
In-Reply-To: <470E633D.8060107@gmx.ch>

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git-gc works perfectly! Thanks all very much. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jean-Luc Herren [mailto:jlh@gmx.ch] 
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 1:54 AM
To: 银平
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Is it possible for git to support binary differencing for
binary files?

银平 wrote:
> Hi. 
> Storing binary files as deltas is helpful [...] So is it
> possible for git to do that as svn. This is my only pain when
> using git.

Yes, and git does this already in pack files.  Maybe you're not
seeing it because you haven't packed anything yet.  Try to run
'git gc'.

jlh

```

## Martin Langhoff, 2007-10-12 04:50

Subject: Re: Suggestion for mailing lists... split [PATCH]-es into own list
Message-ID: <46a038f90710112150r16b566c6q8f2a58250d803347@mail.gmail.com>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/46a038f90710112150r16b566c6q8f2a58250d803347%40mail.gmail.com
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0710111704570.4174@racer.site>

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On 10/12/07, Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:
> I, for one, am totally opposed to this split.  All too often valuable
> _user_ discussions turn into _technical_ discussions, and thence into a
> throwing back and forth patches.

<aol>mee too! - I think it's the kind of development culture that
Linus tries to foster, and I suspect Junio likes too: "talk in
patches" which is a lot more productive than "talk like a pirate",
bikeshedding and other maladies that can fester in mailing lists.

So no split for me ;-) We have the additional alibi that git users are
supposed to be programmers.



m

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## Simon Sasburg, 2007-10-12 07:27

Subject: Re: Suggestion for mailing lists... split [PATCH]-es into own list
Message-ID: <981e6de60710120027j5f390a9tbe2a4c76db9ed06d@mail.gmail.com>
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On 10/11/07, Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:
> We did not even find a way to post patches via gmail's web interface, not
> without severely damaging the patches.

Oh? Turning off Rich formatting and copy/pasting the patch from my
editor worked for me.

```

## Lars Hjemli, 2007-10-12 08:26

Subject: Re: Suggestion for mailing lists... split [PATCH]-es into own list
Message-ID: <8c5c35580710120126x51c300bfu4345b8c6315d953c@mail.gmail.com>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/8c5c35580710120126x51c300bfu4345b8c6315d953c%40mail.gmail.com
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On 10/12/07, Simon Sasburg <simon.sasburg@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/11/07, Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:
> > We did not even find a way to post patches via gmail's web interface, not
> > without severely damaging the patches.
>
> Oh? Turning off Rich formatting and copy/pasting the patch from my
> editor worked for me.

The problem occurs when gmail decides to wrap the lines in the patch
(max 72 chars per line, I guess).

--
larsh

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## Simon Sasburg, 2007-10-12 09:51

Subject: Re: Suggestion for mailing lists... split [PATCH]-es into own list
Message-ID: <981e6de60710120251s6fc2cdf9w21083038930eef7a@mail.gmail.com>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/981e6de60710120251s6fc2cdf9w21083038930eef7a%40mail.gmail.com
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On 10/12/07, Lars Hjemli <lh@elementstorage.no> wrote:
> On 10/12/07, Simon Sasburg <simon.sasburg@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 10/11/07, Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:
> > > We did not even find a way to post patches via gmail's web interface, not
> > > without severely damaging the patches.
> >
> > Oh? Turning off Rich formatting and copy/pasting the patch from my
> > editor worked for me.
>
> The problem occurs when gmail decides to wrap the lines in the patch
> (max 72 chars per line, I guess).
>
> --
> larsh
>

Ah, good to know, then.

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## Johannes Schindelin, 2007-10-12 10:05

Subject: Re: Suggestion for mailing lists... split [PATCH]-es into own list
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0710121104530.25221@racer.site>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/Pine.LNX.4.64.0710121104530.25221%40racer.site
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Hi,

On Fri, 12 Oct 2007, Simon Sasburg wrote:

> On 10/11/07, Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:
> > We did not even find a way to post patches via gmail's web interface, 
> > not without severely damaging the patches.
> 
> Oh? Turning off Rich formatting and copy/pasting the patch from my
> editor worked for me.

Really?  Even a single space on a single line is retained (last time I 
checked that did not work)?  If so, please amend 
Documentation/SubmittingPatches.

Ciao,
Dscho

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