# Status of kha/experimental 10 messages from 2007-10-07 to 2007-10-12. Participants: Catalin Marinas, Karl Hasselström, Yann Dirson, David Kågedal. Thread: https://gitlist.dev/t/10180 ## Catalin Marinas, 2007-10-07 21:18 Subject: Status of kha/experimental Message-ID: URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/b0943d9e0710071418o6a664981i9d31db980c04bc50%40mail.gmail.com ``` Hi Karl, How stable is the kha/experimental branch? Since there are more and more bugs added to the tracking system, I'll have to start looking at them before a 0.14 release. Is it worth merging the kha/experimental now or we better wait for after 0.14? Thanks. -- Catalin ``` ## Karl Hasselström, 2007-10-07 21:33 Subject: Re: Status of kha/experimental Message-ID: <20071007213307.GA32210@diana.vm.bytemark.co.uk> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/20071007213307.GA32210%40diana.vm.bytemark.co.uk In-Reply-To: ``` On 2007-10-07 22:18:44 +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote: > How stable is the kha/experimental branch? Since there are more and > more bugs added to the tracking system, I'll have to start looking > at them before a 0.14 release. Is it worth merging the > kha/experimental now or we better wait for after 0.14? The idea is that experimental contains changes that need testing, but may not yet be ready for your master. (They are generally safe, though; I run StGit from my experimental branch at work, for example.) When I decide that they are ready, I move them to safe. If there are any patches you feel should be in safe rather than experimental, just ask. Or you could just take them directly from experimental without asking, of course. :-) -- Karl Hasselström, kha@treskal.com www.treskal.com/kalle ``` ## Catalin Marinas, 2007-10-09 21:10 Subject: Re: Status of kha/experimental Message-ID: URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/b0943d9e0710091410w1559f1a0yb5055182fd289646%40mail.gmail.com In-Reply-To: <20071007213307.GA32210@diana.vm.bytemark.co.uk> ``` On 07/10/2007, Karl Hasselström wrote: > On 2007-10-07 22:18:44 +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote: > > > How stable is the kha/experimental branch? Since there are more and > > more bugs added to the tracking system, I'll have to start looking > > at them before a 0.14 release. Is it worth merging the > > kha/experimental now or we better wait for after 0.14? > > The idea is that experimental contains changes that need testing, but > may not yet be ready for your master. (They are generally safe, > though; I run StGit from my experimental branch at work, for example.) > When I decide that they are ready, I move them to safe. If there are > any patches you feel should be in safe rather than experimental, just > ask. Or you could just take them directly from experimental without > asking, of course. :-) OK. My plan is to merge kha/safe and have a look at what seems safer to merge from kha/experimental. Fix bugs (and freeze the current features). Release 0.14. Merge kha/experimental entirely post 0.14 and test/stabilize it over couple of months. How does this sound? -- Catalin ``` ## Yann Dirson, 2007-10-09 21:46 Subject: Re: Status of kha/experimental Message-ID: <20071009214613.GC26436@nan92-1-81-57-214-146.fbx.proxad.net> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/20071009214613.GC26436%40nan92-1-81-57-214-146.fbx.proxad.net In-Reply-To: ``` On Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 10:10:12PM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote: > On 07/10/2007, Karl Hasselström wrote: > > On 2007-10-07 22:18:44 +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote: > > > > > How stable is the kha/experimental branch? Since there are more and > > > more bugs added to the tracking system, I'll have to start looking > > > at them before a 0.14 release. Is it worth merging the > > > kha/experimental now or we better wait for after 0.14? > > > > The idea is that experimental contains changes that need testing, but > > may not yet be ready for your master. (They are generally safe, > > though; I run StGit from my experimental branch at work, for example.) > > When I decide that they are ready, I move them to safe. If there are > > any patches you feel should be in safe rather than experimental, just > > ask. Or you could just take them directly from experimental without > > asking, of course. :-) > > OK. My plan is to merge kha/safe and have a look at what seems safer > to merge from kha/experimental. Fix bugs (and freeze the current > features). Release 0.14. Merge kha/experimental entirely post 0.14 and > test/stabilize it over couple of months. How does this sound? Sounds like a good time to bring back my refactoring patches from the hydra patchset. I have not addressed yet the remarks that were voiced at that time, and the hydra patch itself has not been completed, and in fact the refactorings touch so many parts of the code that I can't envision mantaining them outside the tree (in fact, I left them bitrot for that very reason). If there is no other remarks than those already posted as replies to the patchset, maybe we could consider merging them soon after kha/experimental ? That would require that I update them, but I'm not sure Karl would want them in kha/experimental, since virtually any other patch causes a conflict... The best situation would be that there would be a code freeze at some time, during which I could update those patches without too much perturbations, but that may be asking a lot :) The ideal situation would be if we would make diffcore and merge aware of a (de)indentation type of change. That's something I have felt the need for since ages, but I'm unfortunately not going to find the time to implement that anytime soon :) Best regards, -- Yann ``` ## David Kågedal, 2007-10-10 07:39 Subject: Re: Status of kha/experimental Message-ID: <87tzozxvto.fsf@lysator.liu.se> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/87tzozxvto.fsf%40lysator.liu.se In-Reply-To: ``` "Catalin Marinas" writes: > On 07/10/2007, Karl Hasselström wrote: >> On 2007-10-07 22:18:44 +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote: >> >> > How stable is the kha/experimental branch? Since there are more and >> > more bugs added to the tracking system, I'll have to start looking >> > at them before a 0.14 release. Is it worth merging the >> > kha/experimental now or we better wait for after 0.14? >> >> The idea is that experimental contains changes that need testing, but >> may not yet be ready for your master. (They are generally safe, >> though; I run StGit from my experimental branch at work, for example.) >> When I decide that they are ready, I move them to safe. If there are >> any patches you feel should be in safe rather than experimental, just >> ask. Or you could just take them directly from experimental without >> asking, of course. :-) > > OK. My plan is to merge kha/safe and have a look at what seems safer > to merge from kha/experimental. Fix bugs (and freeze the current > features). Release 0.14. Merge kha/experimental entirely post 0.14 and > test/stabilize it over couple of months. How does this sound? Sounds like a plan to me. But we should probably fix the loose ends in kha/experimental before merging it entirely. -- David Kågedal ``` ## Karl Hasselström, 2007-10-10 08:17 Subject: Re: Status of kha/experimental Message-ID: <20071010081718.GE12970@diana.vm.bytemark.co.uk> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/20071010081718.GE12970%40diana.vm.bytemark.co.uk In-Reply-To: <87tzozxvto.fsf@lysator.liu.se> ``` On 2007-10-10 09:39:15 +0200, David Kågedal wrote: > Sounds like a plan to me. But we should probably fix the loose ends > in kha/experimental before merging it entirely. I tried to list the loose ends in my last update. There weren't that many of them as I recall. -- Karl Hasselström, kha@treskal.com www.treskal.com/kalle ``` ## Karl Hasselström, 2007-10-10 08:26 Subject: Re: Status of kha/experimental Message-ID: <20071010082602.GF12970@diana.vm.bytemark.co.uk> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/20071010082602.GF12970%40diana.vm.bytemark.co.uk In-Reply-To: <20071009214613.GC26436@nan92-1-81-57-214-146.fbx.proxad.net> ``` On 2007-10-09 23:46:13 +0200, Yann Dirson wrote: > That would require that I update them, but I'm not sure Karl would > want them in kha/experimental, since virtually any other patch > causes a conflict... Right. If it's likely to be many conflicts, I wouldn't mind if you were the one who resolved them. > The best situation would be that there would be a code freeze at > some time, during which I could update those patches without too > much perturbations, but that may be asking a lot :) There aren't that many of us working on StGit. If you can give a reasonably accurate start date and duration of the freeze, I don't think it would be a problem. Others would simply have to be aware that any patches not merged before the freeze would have to be rebased on top of your work once the freeze is over. -- Karl Hasselström, kha@treskal.com www.treskal.com/kalle ``` ## Catalin Marinas, 2007-10-11 20:38 Subject: Re: Status of kha/experimental Message-ID: URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/b0943d9e0710111338u109aa304o6ba9c886a42c2e24%40mail.gmail.com In-Reply-To: <20071010082602.GF12970@diana.vm.bytemark.co.uk> ``` On 10/10/2007, Karl Hasselström wrote: > On 2007-10-09 23:46:13 +0200, Yann Dirson wrote: > > The best situation would be that there would be a code freeze at > > some time, during which I could update those patches without too > > much perturbations, but that may be asking a lot :) > > There aren't that many of us working on StGit. If you can give a > reasonably accurate start date and duration of the freeze, This would mean that I have to be more organised :-). > I don't > think it would be a problem.Others would simply have to be aware that > any patches not merged before the freeze would have to be rebased on > top of your work once the freeze is over. I'll try - let's say we freeze it starting with the coming Monday (what's currently in kha/safe will be merged anyway) and aim to release 0.14 in about 3 weeks (or as soon as we fix the major bugs). -- Catalin ``` ## Karl Hasselström, 2007-10-12 07:43 Subject: Re: Status of kha/experimental Message-ID: <20071012074323.GB17403@diana.vm.bytemark.co.uk> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/20071012074323.GB17403%40diana.vm.bytemark.co.uk In-Reply-To: ``` On 2007-10-11 21:38:12 +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote: > I'll try - let's say we freeze it starting with the coming Monday > (what's currently in kha/safe will be merged anyway) and aim to > release 0.14 in about 3 weeks (or as soon as we fix the major bugs). Do you have a list of the bugs you'd like to see fixed before the release? (I don't, I'm not organized. :-) ) -- Karl Hasselström, kha@treskal.com www.treskal.com/kalle ``` ## Catalin Marinas, 2007-10-12 08:56 Subject: Re: Status of kha/experimental Message-ID: URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/b0943d9e0710120156x1ebea377od11e1175fabec4cf%40mail.gmail.com In-Reply-To: <20071012074323.GB17403@diana.vm.bytemark.co.uk> ``` On 12/10/2007, Karl Hasselström wrote: > On 2007-10-11 21:38:12 +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote: > > > I'll try - let's say we freeze it starting with the coming Monday > > (what's currently in kha/safe will be merged anyway) and aim to > > release 0.14 in about 3 weeks (or as soon as we fix the major bugs). > > Do you have a list of the bugs you'd like to see fixed before the > release? (I don't, I'm not organized. :-) ) https://gna.org/bugs/?group=stgit. All of them, if possible :-). If you happen to work on any of them, change the "assigned to" filed so that we don't duplicate the effort. -- Catalin ```