From: Felipe Contreras Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2013 03:34:14 GMT Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Move sequencer to builtin Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20130609032143.GA18678@google.com> On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 10:21 PM, Jonathan Nieder wrote: > Felipe Contreras wrote: > >> A collegial work environment is overrated, and proof of that the Linux >> kernel, where honest and straight talk is the bread and butter of the >> mailing list. > > An aside, since it doesn't bear too much on the topic at hand: > > For what it's worth, in my experience the people working on the kernel > are quite sensible and friendly on-list. They are professional. When they need to be straight-forward, they are, even if that hurts the feelings of the colleagues. > Probably you are referring to some high-profile cases of flames, No, I'm not. Heated discussions happen all the time, specially when the issue at hand is important. > I do not think the way the list works normally is a > counterexample to common decency being useful. Of course you wouldn't, but you are purposely ignoring the facts. The Linux kernel mailing lists concentrates on *the code*; he who writes the code has a voice, he who only has words doesn't. Personal beefs are not relevant. When there's something horribly wrong with the code, so are the responses. > So no, I don't find "But they are mean, and look how well they are > doing!" to be a compelling argument here. Because you dismiss the premise a priori. -- Felipe Contreras