From: Maciej Ciemborowicz Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2026 19:06:32 GMT Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/4] refs: run copy and rename through transactions Message-ID: In-Reply-To: On Thu, Oct 8, 2026 at 5:46 PM Junio C Hamano wrote: > A response to reviews on the N-th round must come long before > sending the v(N+1) round of patches. Some contributors send them > after v(N+1), or immediately before, but the proper time to respond > is soon after receiving the reviews on vN and having had enough time > to understand the comments, before starting work on v(N+1). Only > after that work is complete would you send the new patches. Hence, > we expect the time between vN and v(N+1) from real contributors to > be measured in days, not hours. Whenever I see vN responses arrive > after or immediately before the v(N+1) patches, or worse, no > response at all but just the new patches, it smells fishy. I wouldn't rely on that. It's easy to fake. I'd rather ask for transparency. > And thanks to your learning, the next patch series you will write would be of much higher quality. TL;DR: I'm facing a moral dilemma: should I refrain from submitting a patch, or submit one written with the help of AI? If what I'm submitting isn't useful, feel free to say so or simply ignore the patch. If it has value and people are willing to accept it, I'm happy to continue. My current workflow looks like this: 1. I give an AI agent a task. 2. I check whether the solution works. If it doesn't, I refine the instructions until it does. 3. I check for edge cases. 4. I do a code review, ask the AI agent to explain what it wrote, and have it make corrections. My own code review is pretty weak, though, because I haven't spent (and won't spend) thousands of hours working with C and Git internals. 5. I ask another AI agent to review the code and think through its findings. I usually conclude that its review is better than mine. 6. I go back to "writing" code, and the agent implements the changes suggested during the review. 7. GOTO 4 if I'm still not satisfied. At this point, I face a moral dilemma, because the next step is to hand the patch over to other people to read, which means asking them to spend their time on it. I have the following options: 1. Report the bug without submitting a patch. 2. Report the bug and spend a month writing the patch myself, learning Git internals and C along the way. Unfortunately, I'm not planning a career in C. I've been programming for well over a decade in a completely different stack, and I simply can't afford to devote that much time to it. It might be worthwhile if I intended to spend the next several years working with Git and C, but unfortunately, that's not an option for me. On top of that, I can't shake the feeling that AI is already learning faster than I am. 3. Report the bug and solve the problem as well as I can with the help of an AI agent. So realistically, my choice comes down to options 1 and 3. And that's my moral dilemma: I don't know whether it's better not to submit a patch at all, or to do the best I can with the time I have, using AI. Choosing option 3, however, creates another dilemma before submitting the patch: Have I reviewed the code thoroughly enough myself? Do I understand what I'm doing well enough? I chose option 3, and out of respect for other people's time, I'm doing my best to understand what I'm submitting. And the only thing I can do to feel that I'm being honest about it is to be transparent and explain exactly what my workflow for developing this patch looks like. Thanks, Maciej