From: David Kastrup Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 19:23:06 GMT Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Git v2.0.0 Message-ID: <87tx88fkyt.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <20140529185311.GB10865@sigill.intra.peff.net> Jeff King writes: > On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 06:17:25PM -0500, Felipe Contreras wrote: > >> This is the last mail I sent to you, because you ignore them anyway, and >> remove them from the mailing list. >> [...] >> [2], a mail you conveniently removed from the tracked record. >> [...] >> You also conveniently removed this mail from the archives. > > I see you already noticed the changes in v2.0, but I wanted to address > these points, because I consider silent censorship to be a serious > accusation. > > I do not think Junio or anyone else has the technical ability to remove > messages from the archive. You can post self-destructing messages by adding X-no-archive: yes if I am not mistaken. But that only concerns stuff you post yourself. > There is not one archive, but rather several that get messages > straight from vger.kernel.org and keep their own database (e.g., > gmane, marc, spinics, nabble). Frankly, I find it weird that vger.kernel.org does not have an archive of its own. But yes, that makes it unlikely that silent censorship is much of a thing. A list moderator may put a particular sender on silent moderation, where postings will only appear once he has acknowledged them. However, that is a manual and burdensome process and requires an up-front decision to do so. Once a message made it to the list, the various archives will pick it up. -- David Kastrup