From: Thomas Rast Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 08:41:43 GMT Subject: Re: Google Summer of Code 2013 (GSoC13) Message-ID: <874nh8vgoo.fsf@pctrast.inf.ethz.ch> In-Reply-To: Ramkumar Ramachandra writes: > Jonathan Nieder wrote: >> Ramkumar Ramachandra wrote: >> >>> The short undiplomatic version of that is that our mentors suck (I'm >>> not pointing fingers, but that's what I infer from failing projects). >> >> Hold on a second. I'm not remembering such a grim outcome with 100% >> failure from prior summers of code as you're describing. Before I >> start beating myself up, I guess I'd like a little more information >> --- is there some specific project or statistic that you're thinking >> of that brings you to that conclusion? > > In retrospect, I might have been unnecessarily harsh there. > > One of the main measures of a mentor's success, in my opinion, is > having his student stick around after the Summer of Code: the mentor > is the student's primary link to the community. There have been 4~5 > students every year, times 6 years (is that how long we've been > participating?). How many of those students have felt part of the > community? In defense of Thomas, whose project was mentioned earlier as a prime example of something that is "too big": He's in fact still working on the index-API angle, as part of a thesis at university. -- Thomas Rast trast@{inf,student}.ethz.ch