From: Alex Riesen <raa.lkml@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 12:32:24 GMT
Subject: Re: What's in git.git
Message-ID: <81b0412b0608030532v4241322dted5f42baa196af88@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <7vmzamqivk.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net>

On 8/3/06, Junio C Hamano <junkio@cox.net> wrote:
> >> What's the standard workflow/procedure ActiveState users would
> >> use to build and install .xs extensions?  Maybe they have their
> >> own $(MAKE) equivalent that groks such a Makefile with
> >> backslashed pathnames and CRLF endings?
> >
> > I don't know. It's a bit more than backslashes and CRLF. The pathnames
> > must be _completely_ converted from windows to cygwin. Cygwin even
> > provides an utility for that (cygpath). Besides, there still is that stupid
> > case-sensitivity problem.
>
> What I meant to say was that the real mistake might be for us to
> try using the Cygwin toolchain (GNU make, gcc and GNU C library)
> while working with ActiveState.

Luckily, only ActiveState Perl users are hit. Which, I suppose,
is not all that much (it's really crappy environment to work in,
an only real stupid corporate users can keep doing that),
and they're used to pain.

> Now, I admit I know very little about ActiveState and know
> nothing about Windows build environment, but I would not be
> surprised if in ActiveState land there were a MakeMaker
> equivalent that spits out Makefile equivalent that is suitable
> for MS development environment, and the users are expected to
> work in that environment, perhaps using MS C compiler toolchain,

AFAICS, it is not suitable for anything: generated Makefile is not
parsable by nmake(what MS thinks is a make) and is more like a
broken gmake Makefile. Also -fno-strict-aliasing points at gcc.

> to produce object files if they want to link with ActiveState
> stuff.  If that were the case, maybe what is needed is to port
> the build infrastructure to MS development environment, and
> making Makefile generated from perl/Makefile.PL usable might not
> be of much use.

I'd suggest to add NO_PERL_XS option to the top-level Makefile.
Really core tools do not need Git.pm.