From: Bagas Sanjaya Date: Sat, 08 May 2021 04:41:02 GMT Subject: Re: Pain points in Git's patch flow Message-ID: <6f42d6e2-087a-4c95-1aa1-31ee871c06b4@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20210508020855.GF3986@localhost> On 08/05/21 09.08, dwh@linuxprogrammer.org wrote: > Think about it like this. Right now, I could use an IMAP client to > download all of my emails from GMail, store them in mbox files, then > use the IMAP client to upload the email to Fastmail or SDF.org or some > other email provider. Or better yet, I can install local tools for > working with my email. The fact that email providers/tools are largely > interchangeable and replacable--despite Google/Yahoo/Microsoft's best > efforts--gives maximum power to users. Well, I use Thunderbird because it supports Gmail accounts out of the box. But I wish I could use Mutt or similar, alas Gmail requires that I need to enable 2FA and s/// in order to access Gmail via Mutt. I currently steer clear from 2FA, because once upon a time in 2018 I screwed up (locked-out) from my older account, which IMO mission-critical., for I couldn't pass all possible verification methods for that. So I created new account one in about Día de Kartini (Kartini's day). And yes, Google/Yahoo/MS have webmail interface for their mail services (Gmail/YahooMail/Outlook), but for purposes for sending to vger.kernel.org, these above are rubbish because they genereated HTML emails, and vger hate HTML emails. -- An old man doll... just what I always wanted! - Clara