{"thread":{"id":"7673","subject":"parsecvs repository moved...","startedAt":"2007-04-16T07:32:58Z","lastAt":"2007-04-27T15:15:21Z","messageCount":13,"participants":["Martin Langhoff","Robin H. Johnson","Junio C Hamano","James Cloos","Petr Baudis"],"isPatch":false,"patchVersion":null,"patchTotal":null},"messages":[{"id":"39482","messageId":"46a038f90704160032m9cfee8ai9830c81dd4a64cd6@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"7673","inReplyTo":null,"subject":"parsecvs repository moved...","fromName":"Martin Langhoff","fromEmail":"martin.langhoff@gmail.com","sentAt":"2007-04-16T07:32:58Z","receivedAt":"2007-04-16T07:32:58Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"martin.langhoff@gmail.com","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/1e3f311b6c4c15836501901ca58f8c0b0667246488084ba524d8bc9867e22fd9?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"I've just found that parsecvs.git repo has moved again... to\nhttp://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/users/keithp/repos/parsecvs.git\n\nUsed to be at\n- git://git.freedesktop.org/~keithp/parsecvs\n- git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/users/keithp/parsecvs\n\n(I'm about to run a test import of Postgresql's CVS repo with it)\n\ncheers,\n\n\nmartin\n"},{"id":"39490","messageId":"20070416075829.GK2689@curie-int.orbis-terrarum.net","threadId":"7673","inReplyTo":"46a038f90704160032m9cfee8ai9830c81dd4a64cd6@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: parsecvs repository moved...","fromName":"Robin H. Johnson","fromEmail":"robbat2@gentoo.org","sentAt":"2007-04-16T07:58:29Z","receivedAt":"2007-04-16T07:58:29Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"robbat2@gentoo.org","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/373898?v=4"},"body":"On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 07:32:58PM +1200, Martin Langhoff wrote:\n> I've just found that parsecvs.git repo has moved again... to\n> http://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/users/keithp/repos/parsecvs.git\nIt seems to be broken on there?\n\n$ git clone http://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/users/keithp/repos/parsecvs.git\nInitialized empty Git repository in /code/vcs/parsecvs/.git/\nCannot get remote repository information.\nPerhaps git-update-server-info needs to be run there?\n\n-- \nRobin Hugh Johnson\nGentoo Linux Developer & Council Member\nE-Mail : robbat2@gentoo.org\nGnuPG FP : 11AC BA4F 4778 E3F6 E4ED F38E B27B 944E 3488 4E85\n"},{"id":"39502","messageId":"46a038f90704160137j3c6ffe5es3e44a6342017db58@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"7673","inReplyTo":"20070416075829.GK2689@curie-int.orbis-terrarum.net","subject":"Re: parsecvs repository moved...","fromName":"Martin Langhoff","fromEmail":"martin.langhoff@gmail.com","sentAt":"2007-04-16T08:37:09Z","receivedAt":"2007-04-16T08:37:09Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"martin.langhoff@gmail.com","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/1e3f311b6c4c15836501901ca58f8c0b0667246488084ba524d8bc9867e22fd9?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"On 4/16/07, Robin H. Johnson wrote:\n> On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 07:32:58PM +1200, Martin Langhoff wrote:\n> > I've just found that parsecvs.git repo has moved again... to\n> > http://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/users/keithp/repos/parsecvs.git\n> It seems to be broken on there?\n>\n> $ git clone http://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/users/keithp/repos/parsecvs.git\n> Initialized empty Git repository in /code/vcs/parsecvs/.git/\n> Cannot get remote repository information.\n> Perhaps git-update-server-info needs to be run there?\n\nOh - I managed to run an update to an existing checkout of mine - but\nit's broken for cloning over http. I'm happy to publish my cloned repo\n- try\n\n git-clone http://git.catalyst.net.nz/parsecvs.git\n\ncheers,\n\n\nmartin\n"},{"id":"39503","messageId":"46a038f90704160139o4a474876qfd5b3a6e21df279f@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"7673","inReplyTo":"20070416075829.GK2689@curie-int.orbis-terrarum.net","subject":"Re: parsecvs repository moved...","fromName":"Martin Langhoff","fromEmail":"martin.langhoff@gmail.com","sentAt":"2007-04-16T08:39:32Z","receivedAt":"2007-04-16T08:39:32Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"martin.langhoff@gmail.com","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/1e3f311b6c4c15836501901ca58f8c0b0667246488084ba524d8bc9867e22fd9?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"On 4/16/07, Robin H. Johnson wrote:\n\nHey - your MUA settings are weird - it sets the reply-to to the person\nyou've replied to. That's strange, and probably not what you want.\nReply-to should be to your preferred email address.\n\ncheers,\n\n\nmartin\n"},{"id":"39504","messageId":"20070416084238.GL2689@curie-int.orbis-terrarum.net","threadId":"7673","inReplyTo":"46a038f90704160139o4a474876qfd5b3a6e21df279f@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: parsecvs repository moved...","fromName":"Robin H. Johnson","fromEmail":"robbat2@gentoo.org","sentAt":"2007-04-16T08:42:38Z","receivedAt":"2007-04-16T08:42:38Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"robbat2@gentoo.org","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/373898?v=4"},"body":"On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 08:39:32PM +1200, Martin Langhoff wrote:\n> On 4/16/07, Robin H. Johnson wrote:\n> \n> Hey - your MUA settings are weird - it sets the reply-to to the person\n> you've replied to. That's strange, and probably not what you want.\n> Reply-to should be to your preferred email address.\nNo, it's correct in this case. I have it configured to collapse any\noccurrence of my address into the list address, because I'm subscribed\nto the list, and prefer to not receive duplicates.\n\n-- \nRobin Hugh Johnson\nGentoo Linux Developer & Council Member\nE-Mail : robbat2@gentoo.org\nGnuPG FP : 11AC BA4F 4778 E3F6 E4ED F38E B27B 944E 3488 4E85\n"},{"id":"39507","messageId":"20070416084408.GM2689@curie-int.orbis-terrarum.net","threadId":"7673","inReplyTo":"46a038f90704160137j3c6ffe5es3e44a6342017db58@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: parsecvs repository moved...","fromName":"Robin H. Johnson","fromEmail":"robbat2@gentoo.org","sentAt":"2007-04-16T08:44:08Z","receivedAt":"2007-04-16T08:44:08Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"robbat2@gentoo.org","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/373898?v=4"},"body":"On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 08:37:09PM +1200, Martin Langhoff wrote:\n> Oh - I managed to run an update to an existing checkout of mine - but\n> it's broken for cloning over http. I'm happy to publish my cloned repo\n> - try\n> \n> git-clone http://git.catalyst.net.nz/parsecvs.git\nThanks.\n\n-- \nRobin Hugh Johnson\nGentoo Linux Developer & Council Member\nE-Mail : robbat2@gentoo.org\nGnuPG FP : 11AC BA4F 4778 E3F6 E4ED F38E B27B 944E 3488 4E85\n"},{"id":"39505","messageId":"7vbqhovhbk.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net","threadId":"7673","inReplyTo":"46a038f90704160139o4a474876qfd5b3a6e21df279f@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: parsecvs repository moved...","fromName":"Junio C Hamano","fromEmail":"junkio@cox.net","sentAt":"2007-04-16T08:45:03Z","receivedAt":"2007-04-16T08:45:03Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"gitster@pobox.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/54884?v=4"},"body":"\"Martin Langhoff\" writes:\n\n> On 4/16/07, Robin H. Johnson wrote:\n>\n> Hey - your MUA settings are weird - it sets the reply-to to the person\n> you've replied to. That's strange, and probably not what you want.\n> Reply-to should be to your preferred email address.\n>\n> cheers,\n\nLook at Robin's header again. It is pointing other people with\nMail-followup-to: header.\n\nPeople do that to avoid getting duplicates from mailing list,\nwithout realizing how rude that practice is. It forces people\nwho want to address THEM specifically (as opposed to \"other\npeople\") spend extra seconds correcting the e-mail header.\n"},{"id":"39508","messageId":"46a038f90704160151q2121086bx1b224804d93ba481@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"7673","inReplyTo":"20070416084238.GL2689@curie-int.orbis-terrarum.net","subject":"Re: parsecvs repository moved...","fromName":"Martin Langhoff","fromEmail":"martin.langhoff@gmail.com","sentAt":"2007-04-16T08:51:13Z","receivedAt":"2007-04-16T08:51:13Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"martin.langhoff@gmail.com","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/1e3f311b6c4c15836501901ca58f8c0b0667246488084ba524d8bc9867e22fd9?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"On 4/16/07, Robin H. Johnson wrote:\n> No, it's correct in this case. I have it configured to collapse any\n> occurrence of my address into the list address, because I'm subscribed\n> to the list, and prefer to not receive duplicates.\n\nOTOH you _are_ breaking the reply / reply-all convention that most\npeople use and (almost) all MUAs handle correctly.\n\nThis means that I have a practical way to address you in private by\njust hitting 'reply'. Most mailing-list-adept users will do that to\nsend you a private reply. It's pretty ackward that you are seeding the\nreply-to with bogus addresses. I'd guess it'd bother me less if you\nset the reply-to to /dev/null.\n\nIf you'd rather not receive duplicates, you can probably filter out\nfor duplicates in by message-id at your MUA/procmail.\n\n> Gentoo Linux Developer & Council Member\n\nOh, well. And I thought reply-to flamewars were exclusive to\ndebian-devel. They are silly enough there.\n\ncheers.\n\n\nm\n"},{"id":"39510","messageId":"46a038f90704160155x12072530k6436512922f4c8c1@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"7673","inReplyTo":"46a038f90704160151q2121086bx1b224804d93ba481@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: parsecvs repository moved...","fromName":"Martin Langhoff","fromEmail":"martin.langhoff@gmail.com","sentAt":"2007-04-16T08:55:12Z","receivedAt":"2007-04-16T08:55:12Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"martin.langhoff@gmail.com","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/1e3f311b6c4c15836501901ca58f8c0b0667246488084ba524d8bc9867e22fd9?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"On 4/16/07, Martin Langhoff wrote:\n> If you'd rather not receive duplicates, you can probably filter out\n> for duplicates in by message-id at your MUA/procmail.\n\nActually - it's not a \"probably\" but a fact of life - look for\n'duplicate' in the procmail quick-start guide:\n\n http://www.ii.com/internet/robots/procmail/qs/\n\nAnd a quick google tells me there are similar recipes for Exim and a\nfew other mail-related tools.\n\ncheers,\n\n\n\nmartin\n"},{"id":"39511","messageId":"46a038f90704160159j64c6c694xc24b365078ae709a@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"7673","inReplyTo":"7vbqhovhbk.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net","subject":"Re: parsecvs repository moved...","fromName":"Martin Langhoff","fromEmail":"martin.langhoff@gmail.com","sentAt":"2007-04-16T08:59:48Z","receivedAt":"2007-04-16T08:59:48Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"martin.langhoff@gmail.com","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/1e3f311b6c4c15836501901ca58f8c0b0667246488084ba524d8bc9867e22fd9?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"On 4/16/07, Junio C Hamano wrote:\n> Look at Robin's header again. It is pointing other people with\n> Mail-followup-to: header.\n\nDon't worry -- I did ;-) and I did remember your complaint a few hs ago.\n\n> People do that to avoid getting duplicates from mailing list,\n> without realizing how rude that practice is. It forces people\n> who want to address THEM specifically (as opposed to \"other\n> people\") spend extra seconds correcting the e-mail header.\n\nYeah -- and the fun thing is that you can get caught with a nasty\ngaffe if you hit reply and send of what you think is a private\nreply... and ends up going to the list.\n\nMbwa-ha-ha, watch those flamewars start. Not.\n\nLet's use the reply-to as it's meant to be ;-)\n\ncheers,\n\n\nmartin\n"},{"id":"39517","messageId":"m3abx8womm.fsf@lugabout.jhcloos.org","threadId":"7673","inReplyTo":"46a038f90704160032m9cfee8ai9830c81dd4a64cd6@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: parsecvs repository moved...","fromName":"James Cloos","fromEmail":"cloos@jhcloos.com","sentAt":"2007-04-16T11:21:30Z","receivedAt":"2007-04-16T11:21:30Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"cloos@jhcloos.com","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/ec9a05787d29afe41e243e4b60bd0e2f69d757688e8f0bfe5e78bc185a3e317f?d=mp&s=160"},"body":">>>>> \"Martin\" == Martin Langhoff writes:\n\nMartin> I've just found that parsecvs.git repo has moved again... to\nMartin> http://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/users/keithp/repos/parsecvs.git\n\nMartin> Used to be at\nMartin> - git://git.freedesktop.org/~keithp/parsecvs\nMartin> - git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/users/keithp/parsecvs\n\nThe version at /git/users/keithp/repos/parsecvs.git shows its most\nrecent commit at Sat Sep 9 15:07:11 2006 -0700.\n\nThe version at ~keithp/parsecvs.git shows its most recent commit\nat Wed Apr 4 21:35:23 2007 -0700.\n\n(In each case for the master branch. Both have master, master-old,\nmerge-flat and rcs-builtin branches.)\n\nSo it looks like git://people.freedesktop.org/~keithp/parsecvs is\nthe current version.\n\nI don't see any way to access that repo over http, though. Only\nvia git-daemon.\n\nThe gitweb URL is:\n\nhttp://gitweb.freedesktop.org/?p=users/keithp/parsecvs.git\n\n-JimC\n-- \nJames Cloos OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6\n"},{"id":"39518","messageId":"20070416114840.GA1562@curie-int.orbis-terrarum.net","threadId":"7673","inReplyTo":"46a038f90704160151q2121086bx1b224804d93ba481@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: parsecvs repository moved...","fromName":"Robin H. Johnson","fromEmail":"robbat2@gentoo.org","sentAt":"2007-04-16T11:48:40Z","receivedAt":"2007-04-16T11:48:40Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"robbat2@gentoo.org","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/373898?v=4"},"body":"The entirety of the subject is not worth further discussion. Beyond this\nemail, let's get back to the point of this list guys: Git development!\nThe keyword expansion flame-war is more on topic :-P\n\nOn Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 08:51:13PM +1200, Martin Langhoff wrote:\n> On 4/16/07, Robin H. Johnson wrote:\n> > No, it's correct in this case. I have it configured to collapse any\n> > occurrence of my address into the list address, because I'm subscribed\n> > to the list, and prefer to not receive duplicates.\n> OTOH you _are_ breaking the reply / reply-all convention that most\n> people use and (almost) all MUAs handle correctly.\nI turned off Mutt's followup_to for this list now.\n\nSimply put, MUAs have been getting it wrong for so long, that the entire\nthing is a minefield. The Procmail-Tips documentation\n(http://pm-doc.sourceforge.net/pm-tips-body.html#replyto_header)\nhas perhaps one of the best summaries of it:\n] The way to solve most reply problems is to encourage the responder to\n] actually think about where the message needs to go, and make it easy for\n] him to get the behavior he wants.\nIt's the entirely of do what I mean, not what I say. Is my mail a reply\nor a followup? Is it brash enough that I should make sure it goes only\nto the right person?\n\n> If you'd rather not receive duplicates, you can probably filter out\n> for duplicates in by message-id at your MUA/procmail.\nIf it weren't for broken MUAs, then yes, this would solve it. The best\nimplementations of this so far have been for uniques on the tuple of\n(From, Message-ID, Subject[prefixes removed], Fuzzy body).\n\n> > Gentoo Linux Developer & Council Member\n> Oh, well. And I thought reply-to flamewars were exclusive to\n> debian-devel. They are silly enough there.\nI'm not trying to start a flamewar, I get enough of those on gentoo-dev\nalready ;-).\n\n-- \nRobin Hugh Johnson\nGentoo Linux Developer & Council Member\nE-Mail : robbat2@gentoo.org\nGnuPG FP : 11AC BA4F 4778 E3F6 E4ED F38E B27B 944E 3488 4E85\n"},{"id":"40599","messageId":"20070427151521.GY4489@pasky.or.cz","threadId":"7673","inReplyTo":"m3abx8womm.fsf@lugabout.jhcloos.org","subject":"Re: parsecvs repository moved...","fromName":"Petr Baudis","fromEmail":"pasky@suse.cz","sentAt":"2007-04-27T15:15:21Z","receivedAt":"2007-04-27T15:15:21Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"pasky@ucw.cz","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/18439?v=4"},"body":"On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 01:21:30PM CEST, James Cloos wrote:\n> >>>>> \"Martin\" == Martin Langhoff writes:\n> \n> Martin> I've just found that parsecvs.git repo has moved again... to\n> Martin> http://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/users/keithp/repos/parsecvs.git\n> \n> Martin> Used to be at\n> Martin> - git://git.freedesktop.org/~keithp/parsecvs\n> Martin> - git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/users/keithp/parsecvs\n> \n> The version at /git/users/keithp/repos/parsecvs.git shows its most\n> recent commit at Sat Sep 9 15:07:11 2006 -0700.\n> \n> The version at ~keithp/parsecvs.git shows its most recent commit\n> at Wed Apr 4 21:35:23 2007 -0700.\n> \n> (In each case for the master branch. Both have master, master-old,\n> merge-flat and rcs-builtin branches.)\n> \n> So it looks like git://people.freedesktop.org/~keithp/parsecvs is\n> the current version.\n> \n> I don't see any way to access that repo over http, though. Only\n> via git-daemon.\n\nMaybe would be best to set up a repo.or.cz mirror and keep it pointed to\nthe latest URL of the repository? :-)\n\n-- \n\t\t\t\tPetr \"Pasky\" Baudis\nStuff: http://pasky.or.cz/\nEver try. Ever fail. No matter. // Try again. Fail again. Fail better.\n\t\t-- Samuel Beckett\n"}]}