{"thread":{"id":"7259","subject":"GSoC '07 - Accepted!","startedAt":"2007-03-15T16:11:43Z","lastAt":"2007-03-16T14:06:27Z","messageCount":8,"participants":["Shawn O. Pearce","Linus Torvalds","Yann Dirson","Johannes Schindelin","Brian Gernhardt"],"isPatch":false,"patchVersion":null,"patchTotal":null},"messages":[{"id":"37170","messageId":"20070315161143.GA29547@spearce.org","threadId":"7259","inReplyTo":null,"subject":"GSoC '07 - Accepted!","fromName":"Shawn O. Pearce","fromEmail":"spearce@spearce.org","sentAt":"2007-03-15T16:11:43Z","receivedAt":"2007-03-15T16:11:43Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"spearce@spearce.org","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/34844?v=4"},"body":"Google accepted our application to GSoC '07. Thanks to everyone\nwho helped with reviewing the application, and most of of all thanks\nto our volunteer mentors!\n\n\nSmall catch though: I didn't find this clause earlier when I setup\nthe application, but reading through the Terms of Service for the\nprogram I found this:\n\n 10. All necessary tax forms or other tax related documentation\n required to provide payment to the organization\n\nYea... we as an organization get $500.00 USD for each student\nthat particpiates:\n\n http://code.google.com/soc/tos.html\n\nSmall fun fact that I did not previously realize. Apparently there\nmight be some complications from being a GSoC project, as we don't\nlegally exist as an organization in any locality. And there's of\ncourse the question about what to do with the money we receive.\n\nI figure we'll probably get 1, maybe 2 slots, which means about\n$500-$1000 USD.\n\n-- \nShawn.\n"},{"id":"37171","messageId":"20070315162251.GB29547@spearce.org","threadId":"7259","inReplyTo":"20070315161143.GA29547@spearce.org","subject":"Re: GSoC '07 - Accepted!","fromName":"Shawn O. Pearce","fromEmail":"spearce@spearce.org","sentAt":"2007-03-15T16:22:51Z","receivedAt":"2007-03-15T16:22:51Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"spearce@spearce.org","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/34844?v=4"},"body":"\"Shawn O. Pearce\" wrote:\n> Google accepted our application to GSoC '07. Thanks to everyone\n> who helped with reviewing the application, and most of of all thanks\n> to our volunteer mentors!\n\nAlso, the organization setup page is asking us \"desired number of\nprojects\".\n\nHmm. Gee. We have an entire ideas page full of projects that we'd\ndesire to have done. More than we can realistically mentor students\nworking through (depending on the skill level of the individual\nof course).\n\nI'm thinking we ask for 2 or 3 slots, given that we have 6 mentors\nlined up right now.\n\nThoughts?\n\n-- \nShawn.\n"},{"id":"37172","messageId":"Pine.LNX.4.64.0703150931050.3816@woody.linux-foundation.org","threadId":"7259","inReplyTo":"20070315161143.GA29547@spearce.org","subject":"Re: GSoC '07 - Accepted!","fromName":"Linus Torvalds","fromEmail":"torvalds@linux-foundation.org","sentAt":"2007-03-15T16:43:46Z","receivedAt":"2007-03-15T16:43:46Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"torvalds@linux-foundation.org","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/1024025?v=4"},"body":"\n\nOn Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Shawn O. Pearce wrote:\n> \n> Small catch though: I didn't find this clause earlier when I setup\n> the application, but reading through the Terms of Service for the\n> program I found this:\n> \n> 10. All necessary tax forms or other tax related documentation\n> required to provide payment to the organization\n> \n> Yea... we as an organization get $500.00 USD for each student\n> that particpiates:\n\nI _think_ you can either:\n\n - decide to pay the mentor (and have the mentor just pay the tax on it \n as extra income). Mentors can then sort it out amongst themselves.\n\n - If nobody really wants to go through the hassle (not so much in \n receiving the money, as trying to sort it out ;), decide to just \n directly transfer it to some charitable organization that is already \n set up (eg the EFF).\n\nas it would probably be more pain than it's worth to actually try to set \nup some \"git foundation\".\n\nRegardless, congrats on the GSoC entry!\n\n\t\tLinus\n"},{"id":"37176","messageId":"20070315203523.GA12667@nan92-1-81-57-214-146.fbx.proxad.net","threadId":"7259","inReplyTo":"Pine.LNX.4.64.0703150931050.3816@woody.linux-foundation.org","subject":"Re: GSoC '07 - Accepted!","fromName":"Yann Dirson","fromEmail":"ydirson@altern.org","sentAt":"2007-03-15T20:35:23Z","receivedAt":"2007-03-15T20:35:23Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"ydirson@altern.org","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/1190950?v=4"},"body":"On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 09:43:46AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:\n> it would probably be more pain than it's worth to actually try to set \n> up some \"git foundation\".\n\nRight, but we also have the option to look at organisations dedicated\nto handle this very problem, like Software in the Public Interest\n(http://www.spi-inc.org/ - I'm sure there are others). For the\nrecord, SPI was initially created to handle the Debian assets, and now\ndoes the same for other projects (notably, according to their website:\nfreedesktop, postgresql, oftc).\n\n-- \nYann.\n"},{"id":"37185","messageId":"20070316005026.GF29547@spearce.org","threadId":"7259","inReplyTo":"20070315161143.GA29547@spearce.org","subject":"Re: GSoC '07 - Accepted!","fromName":"Shawn O. Pearce","fromEmail":"spearce@spearce.org","sentAt":"2007-03-16T00:50:26Z","receivedAt":"2007-03-16T00:50:26Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"spearce@spearce.org","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/34844?v=4"},"body":"\"Shawn O. Pearce\" wrote:\n> Google accepted our application to GSoC '07. Thanks to everyone\n> who helped with reviewing the application, and most of of all thanks\n> to our volunteer mentors!\n\nSo I've been doing some more research on the GSoC process, based on\nwhat other organizations have written about their own experiences\nlast year. One thing that came up frequently was many organizations\nfound having a student application template useful, as it helped\nthe student and the mentors to better focus their proposal and\ntheir review.\n\nThis may be important to us, as there were 6,338 applications\nlast year:\n\n http://code.google.com/soc/GSoC2006Statistics.pdf\n\nBoost for example received some 160 or so applications (see page 3).\nWe aren't as big or as popular as Boost is, so I don't expect to\nreceive that many, but I would also like to hope that we will get\nmore than 10 applications. ;-)\n\nOne of the better (in my opinion anyway) templates appears to\nbe the NetBSD one:\n\n http://www.netbsd.org/contrib/soc-application.xml\n\nWe have not yet defined a template for student applications, but\nI'm thinking we may want to at least draft one up and offer it as\nan option for students to follow.\n\n\nInteresting side note: The largest compliant from the '06 Apache\nSoftware Foundation mentors was that the students were not given\ncommitter access to Subversion. They felt this made it difficult\nfor the students to contribute. Now if only there was a really\ncool distributed version control system... ;-)\n\n-- \nShawn.\n"},{"id":"37209","messageId":"20070316065222.GF31606@spearce.org","threadId":"7259","inReplyTo":"20070316005026.GF29547@spearce.org","subject":"Re: GSoC '07 - Accepted!","fromName":"Shawn O. Pearce","fromEmail":"spearce@spearce.org","sentAt":"2007-03-16T06:52:22Z","receivedAt":"2007-03-16T06:52:22Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"spearce@spearce.org","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/34844?v=4"},"body":"\"Shawn O. Pearce\" wrote:\n> So I've been doing some more research on the GSoC process, based on\n> what other organizations have written about their own experiences\n> last year. One thing that came up frequently was many organizations\n> found having a student application template useful...\n...\n> We have not yet defined a template for student applications, but\n> I'm thinking we may want to at least draft one up and offer it as\n> an option for students to follow.\n\nBesides giving the lesson that I cannot spell (or type), I've put\ntogether a possible set of points that I think would help students to\nwrite better proposals, and will help us as mentors to review them:\n\n http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/SoC2007Template\n\n-- \nShawn.\n"},{"id":"37233","messageId":"Pine.LNX.4.63.0703161318180.22628@wbgn013.biozentrum.uni-wuerzburg.de","threadId":"7259","inReplyTo":"20070316065222.GF31606@spearce.org","subject":"Re: GSoC '07 - Accepted!","fromName":"Johannes Schindelin","fromEmail":"johannes.schindelin@gmx.de","sentAt":"2007-03-16T12:18:31Z","receivedAt":"2007-03-16T12:18:31Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"johannes.schindelin@gmx.de","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/127790?v=4"},"body":"Hi,\n\nOn Fri, 16 Mar 2007, Shawn O. Pearce wrote:\n\n> \"Shawn O. Pearce\" wrote:\n> > So I've been doing some more research on the GSoC process, based on\n> > what other organizations have written about their own experiences\n> > last year. One thing that came up frequently was many organizations\n> > found having a student application template useful...\n> ...\n> > We have not yet defined a template for student applications, but\n> > I'm thinking we may want to at least draft one up and offer it as\n> > an option for students to follow.\n> \n> Besides giving the lesson that I cannot spell (or type), I've put\n> together a possible set of points that I think would help students to\n> write better proposals, and will help us as mentors to review them:\n> \n> http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/SoC2007Template\n\nLooks good to me!\n\nCiao,\nDscho\n"},{"id":"37240","messageId":"1A02E75C-3BCE-487C-8D58-6B454EBF0BDC@silverinsanity.com","threadId":"7259","inReplyTo":"Pine.LNX.4.63.0703161318180.22628@wbgn013.biozentrum.uni-wuerzburg.de","subject":"Re: GSoC '07 - Accepted!","fromName":"Brian Gernhardt","fromEmail":"benji@silverinsanity.com","sentAt":"2007-03-16T14:06:27Z","receivedAt":"2007-03-16T14:06:27Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"benji@silverinsanity.com","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/e06c101dbc25c68114d859b4a9ec7cf8a2c52fd2b0270ef0eac0e2e63ff22311?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"\nOn Mar 16, 2007, at 8:18 AM, Johannes Schindelin wrote:\n\n> On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, Shawn O. Pearce wrote:\n>> Besides giving the lesson that I cannot spell (or type), I've put\n>> together a possible set of points that I think would help students to\n>> write better proposals, and will help us as mentors to review them:\n>>\n>> http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/SoC2007Template\n>\n> Looks good to me!\n\nDitto.\n~~ Brian\n"}]}