{"thread":{"id":"63169","subject":"Possible venues for Git Merge 2025","startedAt":"2025-03-20T10:31:50Z","lastAt":"2025-03-27T09:18:24Z","messageCount":8,"participants":["Patrick Steinhardt","Taylor Blau","rsbecker@nexbridge.com","brian m. carlson","Johannes Schindelin"],"isPatch":false,"patchVersion":null,"patchTotal":null},"messages":[{"id":"514753","messageId":"Z9vuiCnKcMRRXHOR@pks.im","threadId":"63169","inReplyTo":null,"subject":"Possible venues for Git Merge 2025","fromName":"Patrick Steinhardt","fromEmail":"ps@pks.im","sentAt":"2025-03-20T10:31:36Z","receivedAt":"2025-03-20T10:31:50Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"ps@pks.im","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/4056630?v=4"},"body":"Hi,\n\ngiven that this year is the 20th anniversary of the Git project it would\nbe great to host another Git Merge so that the wider community can come\ntogether and celebrate. Taylor and I have been chatting about this\nopportunity a bit to figure out what we're going to do this year.\n\nWe have been discussing two different options:\n\n  - Hosting in the US in San Francisco at the GitHub HQ.\n\n  - Hosting in the EU in Amsterdam colocated with the Open Source\n    Summit Europe.\n\nTypically, the location is alternating on a yearly basis between the US\nand the EU. So given that last year it was hosted in Berlin it would be\nthe US' turn. But given the recent political climate in the US I'm\nafraid that many people would not feel comfortable traveling there right\nnow. So in the spirit of being inclusive I think we should at least\nconsider whether we may want to break the typical alternating cycle and\nhost in the EU again.\n\nI have been reaching out to the Linux Foundation, and initial feedback\nhas been positive that colocating would be possible. I do not yet have\nany details though, so we'd know for sure in the first half of April\nwhether this is an option in the first place.\n\nUntil then I wanted to get a bit of feedback from the community so that\nwe can assess better whether my fear is unfounded or not, and what the\nmajority's preference would be.\n\nPatrick\n"},{"id":"514768","messageId":"Z9wcY/55BoMsaEnt@nand.local","threadId":"63169","inReplyTo":"Z9vuiCnKcMRRXHOR@pks.im","subject":"Re: Possible venues for Git Merge 2025","fromName":"Taylor Blau","fromEmail":"me@ttaylorr.com","sentAt":"2025-03-20T13:47:15Z","receivedAt":"2025-03-20T13:47:23Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"me@ttaylorr.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/301000140?v=4"},"body":"On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 11:31:36AM +0100, Patrick Steinhardt wrote:\n> Hi,\n>\n> given that this year is the 20th anniversary of the Git project it would\n> be great to host another Git Merge so that the wider community can come\n> together and celebrate. Taylor and I have been chatting about this\n> opportunity a bit to figure out what we're going to do this year.\n>\n> We have been discussing two different options:\n>\n>   - Hosting in the US in San Francisco at the GitHub HQ.\n>\n>   - Hosting in the EU in Amsterdam colocated with the Open Source\n>     Summit Europe.\n\nSorry for the miscommunication on our part! Let me clarify some of the\ndetails around where things are with Git Merge planning:\n\nI have been looking into various option for Git Merge this year to\ncelebrate the project's 20th anniversary. After exploring a number of\noptions, GitHub has secured the budget and space availability to host\nGit Merge at GitHub HQ in San Francisco over a couple of weekdays in\nSeptember!\n\nWe haven't finalized exactly what those two days are yet, hence why I\nhaven't sent an announcement yet to the list. As soon as we finalize\nwhat those dates are, I'll send an announcement with the details\n(including the dates ;-)).\n\nPlease expect that from me soon, and I am very much looking forward to\nseeing as many people in San Francisco to celebrate as can make it!\n\nThanks,\nTaylor\n"},{"id":"514769","messageId":"043401db99a5$ea048560$be0d9020$@nexbridge.com","threadId":"63169","inReplyTo":"Z9wcY/55BoMsaEnt@nand.local","subject":"RE: Possible venues for Git Merge 2025","fromName":"","fromEmail":"rsbecker@nexbridge.com","sentAt":"2025-03-20T14:39:35Z","receivedAt":"2025-03-20T14:39:50Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"randall.becker@nexbridge.ca","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/28956764?v=4"},"body":"On March 20, 2025 9:47 AM, Taylor Blau wrote:\n>On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 11:31:36AM +0100, Patrick Steinhardt wrote:\n>> Hi,\n>>\n>> given that this year is the 20th anniversary of the Git project it\n>> would be great to host another Git Merge so that the wider community\n>> can come together and celebrate. Taylor and I have been chatting about\n>> this opportunity a bit to figure out what we're going to do this year.\n>>\n>> We have been discussing two different options:\n>>\n>>   - Hosting in the US in San Francisco at the GitHub HQ.\n>>\n>>   - Hosting in the EU in Amsterdam colocated with the Open Source\n>>     Summit Europe.\n>\n>Sorry for the miscommunication on our part! Let me clarify some of the details\n>around where things are with Git Merge planning:n\n>\n>I have been looking into various option for Git Merge this year to celebrate the\n>project's 20th anniversary. After exploring a number of options, GitHub has secured\n>the budget and space availability to host Git Merge at GitHub HQ in San Francisco\n>over a couple of weekdays in September!\n>\n>We haven't finalized exactly what those two days are yet, hence why I haven't sent\n>an announcement yet to the list. As soon as we finalize what those dates are, I'll\n>send an announcement with the details (including the dates ;-)).\n>\n>Please expect that from me soon, and I am very much looking forward to seeing as\n>many people in San Francisco to celebrate as can make it!\n\nWhile I would love to be at Git Merge, travel to the US is currently restricted and I will\nnot be able to attend meetings at a US venue. Amsterdam would be a more acceptable\nlocation for the foreseeable future. I hope that will change by September, but it is not\nup to me.\n\n--Randall\n\n"},{"id":"514811","messageId":"Z9ySGbE4sq0JfgKs@tapette.crustytoothpaste.net","threadId":"63169","inReplyTo":"Z9vuiCnKcMRRXHOR@pks.im","subject":"Re: Possible venues for Git Merge 2025","fromName":"brian m. carlson","fromEmail":"sandals@crustytoothpaste.net","sentAt":"2025-03-20T22:09:29Z","receivedAt":"2025-03-20T22:09:37Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"sandals@crustytoothpaste.net","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/497054?v=4"},"body":"On 2025-03-20 at 10:31:36, Patrick Steinhardt wrote:\n> given that this year is the 20th anniversary of the Git project it would\n> be great to host another Git Merge so that the wider community can come\n> together and celebrate. Taylor and I have been chatting about this\n> opportunity a bit to figure out what we're going to do this year.\n> \n> We have been discussing two different options:\n> \n>   - Hosting in the US in San Francisco at the GitHub HQ.\n> \n>   - Hosting in the EU in Amsterdam colocated with the Open Source\n>     Summit Europe.\n> \n> Typically, the location is alternating on a yearly basis between the US\n> and the EU. So given that last year it was hosted in Berlin it would be\n> the US' turn. But given the recent political climate in the US I'm\n> afraid that many people would not feel comfortable traveling there right\n> now. So in the spirit of being inclusive I think we should at least\n> consider whether we may want to break the typical alternating cycle and\n> host in the EU again.\n\nYes, I do think that given current circumstances the U.S. is not a good\nplace to host events.  Perhaps that will change in the future, but I\ndon't think that would be a prudent choice right now.  I've talked to\nseveral people who are uncomfortable traveling there, so we'd probably\nget better attendance hosting elsewhere.\n\nI would be fine with Amsterdam, and I might also suggest a major\nCanadian city (such as Toronto, Montreal, or Vancouver) if we preferred\nto do this in North America (since we've traditionally alternated\ncontinents).  I can imagine other locations outside of the U.S. that\nmight be fine as well, so I'm willing to keep an open mind if a good\nopportunity comes up.\n-- \nbrian m. carlson (they/them or he/him)\nToronto, Ontario, CA\n"},{"id":"514998","messageId":"Z-Knm2WGeMI9a7zt@pks.im","threadId":"63169","inReplyTo":"Z9ySGbE4sq0JfgKs@tapette.crustytoothpaste.net","subject":"Re: Possible venues for Git Merge 2025","fromName":"Patrick Steinhardt","fromEmail":"ps@pks.im","sentAt":"2025-03-25T12:54:51Z","receivedAt":"2025-03-25T12:54:54Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"ps@pks.im","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/4056630?v=4"},"body":"On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 10:09:29PM +0000, brian m. carlson wrote:\n> On 2025-03-20 at 10:31:36, Patrick Steinhardt wrote:\n> > given that this year is the 20th anniversary of the Git project it would\n> > be great to host another Git Merge so that the wider community can come\n> > together and celebrate. Taylor and I have been chatting about this\n> > opportunity a bit to figure out what we're going to do this year.\n> > \n> > We have been discussing two different options:\n> > \n> >   - Hosting in the US in San Francisco at the GitHub HQ.\n> > \n> >   - Hosting in the EU in Amsterdam colocated with the Open Source\n> >     Summit Europe.\n> > \n> > Typically, the location is alternating on a yearly basis between the US\n> > and the EU. So given that last year it was hosted in Berlin it would be\n> > the US' turn. But given the recent political climate in the US I'm\n> > afraid that many people would not feel comfortable traveling there right\n> > now. So in the spirit of being inclusive I think we should at least\n> > consider whether we may want to break the typical alternating cycle and\n> > host in the EU again.\n> \n> Yes, I do think that given current circumstances the U.S. is not a good\n> place to host events.  Perhaps that will change in the future, but I\n> don't think that would be a prudent choice right now.  I've talked to\n> several people who are uncomfortable traveling there, so we'd probably\n> get better attendance hosting elsewhere.\n> \n> I would be fine with Amsterdam, and I might also suggest a major\n> Canadian city (such as Toronto, Montreal, or Vancouver) if we preferred\n> to do this in North America (since we've traditionally alternated\n> continents).  I can imagine other locations outside of the U.S. that\n> might be fine as well, so I'm willing to keep an open mind if a good\n> opportunity comes up.\n\nThe only reasons why I proposed Amsterdam are the Open Source Summit and\nthat I have some ways to help out with organizing the event over there.\nI would be equally happy with alternatives like Canada, but didn't\nreally want to propose alternatives like this myself because I would\nhave to push the entire burden onto somebody else.\n\nSo if it would be a possibility and if people could help out getting\nthings organized in other countries/continents I'd be happy.\n\nPatrick\n"},{"id":"515027","messageId":"022801db9d99$5a56b2b0$0f041810$@nexbridge.com","threadId":"63169","inReplyTo":"Z-Knm2WGeMI9a7zt@pks.im","subject":"RE: Possible venues for Git Merge 2025","fromName":"","fromEmail":"rsbecker@nexbridge.com","sentAt":"2025-03-25T15:19:44Z","receivedAt":"2025-03-25T15:20:04Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"randall.becker@nexbridge.ca","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/28956764?v=4"},"body":"On March 25, 2025 8:55 AM, Patrick Steinhardt wrote:\n>On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 10:09:29PM +0000, brian m. carlson wrote:\n>> On 2025-03-20 at 10:31:36, Patrick Steinhardt wrote:\n>> > given that this year is the 20th anniversary of the Git project it\n>> > would be great to host another Git Merge so that the wider community\n>> > can come together and celebrate. Taylor and I have been chatting\n>> > about this opportunity a bit to figure out what we're going to do this\nyear.\n>> >\n>> > We have been discussing two different options:\n>> >\n>> >   - Hosting in the US in San Francisco at the GitHub HQ.\n>> >\n>> >   - Hosting in the EU in Amsterdam colocated with the Open Source\n>> >     Summit Europe.\n>> >\n>> > Typically, the location is alternating on a yearly basis between the\n>> > US and the EU. So given that last year it was hosted in Berlin it\n>> > would be the US' turn. But given the recent political climate in the\n>> > US I'm afraid that many people would not feel comfortable traveling\n>> > there right now. So in the spirit of being inclusive I think we\n>> > should at least consider whether we may want to break the typical\n>> > alternating cycle and host in the EU again.\n>>\n>> Yes, I do think that given current circumstances the U.S. is not a\n>> good place to host events.  Perhaps that will change in the future,\n>> but I don't think that would be a prudent choice right now.  I've\n>> talked to several people who are uncomfortable traveling there, so\n>> we'd probably get better attendance hosting elsewhere.\n>>\n>> I would be fine with Amsterdam, and I might also suggest a major\n>> Canadian city (such as Toronto, Montreal, or Vancouver) if we\n>> preferred to do this in North America (since we've traditionally\n>> alternated continents).  I can imagine other locations outside of the\n>> U.S. that might be fine as well, so I'm willing to keep an open mind\n>> if a good opportunity comes up.\n>\n>The only reasons why I proposed Amsterdam are the Open Source Summit and\nthat\n>I have some ways to help out with organizing the event over there.\n>I would be equally happy with alternatives like Canada, but didn't really\nwant to\n>propose alternatives like this myself because I would have to push the\nentire burden\n>onto somebody else.\n>\n>So if it would be a possibility and if people could help out getting things\norganized in\n>other countries/continents I'd be happy.\n\nThere are multiple venues in the Toronto area that can support 1500+\nattendees. \nExamples I have used:\nMetro Toronto Convention Centre (downtown, likely preferable but they need\nthe longest advanced notice)\nWestin Harbour Castle (downtown, loads of conference space)\nExhibition Place (downtown, no on-site hotels)\nRogers Centre (downtown, decent hotel and conference rooms)\nVarious airport hotels (including Marriot)\n\nThere are convenient dedicated express trains from the airport to downtown\nthat\naccept luggage. Most airport hotels (Marriot) have shuttles to/from the\nairport continuously\nfrom 0400h to 0200h.\n\nI have been to all of the above - and organized conferences at each about 2\ndecades ago, but\ninfo should still be valid. I can assist if requested.\n\n--Randall\n\n"},{"id":"515046","messageId":"Z-M1J52nQBxxMrXS@tapette.crustytoothpaste.net","threadId":"63169","inReplyTo":"Z-Knm2WGeMI9a7zt@pks.im","subject":"Re: Possible venues for Git Merge 2025","fromName":"brian m. carlson","fromEmail":"sandals@crustytoothpaste.net","sentAt":"2025-03-25T22:58:47Z","receivedAt":"2025-03-25T22:58:50Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"sandals@crustytoothpaste.net","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/497054?v=4"},"body":"On 2025-03-25 at 12:54:51, Patrick Steinhardt wrote:\n> The only reasons why I proposed Amsterdam are the Open Source Summit and\n> that I have some ways to help out with organizing the event over there.\n> I would be equally happy with alternatives like Canada, but didn't\n> really want to propose alternatives like this myself because I would\n> have to push the entire burden onto somebody else.\n> \n> So if it would be a possibility and if people could help out getting\n> things organized in other countries/continents I'd be happy.\n\nI think there are other concerns and it appears the decision has been\nmade, but of course I'd be happy to help out with things if Git Merge\nwere in Toronto.  I don't have experience organizing events, but I am\npretty familiar with the city, having lived here for almost 4 years, and\ncould, of course, make suggestions on locales or help coordinate things\nto the best of my ability.  The city also has great public transit[0],\nwhich I always think is an asset for travelers from out of town.\n\nI must say I am less familiar with Montréal, having been there only\ntwice, but I do speak French reasonably well (although English is\ncommonly spoken) and it's only a five-hour train ride, so if that were\nthe choice I'd be happy to help there as well, although I'm less\nconfident in my abilities.\n\n[0] By North American, not European standards.\n-- \nbrian m. carlson (they/them)\nToronto, Ontario, CA\n"},{"id":"515133","messageId":"82e04bc5-363d-9534-2d33-bd6cc1782e10@gmx.de","threadId":"63169","inReplyTo":"Z-Knm2WGeMI9a7zt@pks.im","subject":"Re: Possible venues for Git Merge 2025","fromName":"Johannes Schindelin","fromEmail":"johannes.schindelin@gmx.de","sentAt":"2025-03-27T09:18:19Z","receivedAt":"2025-03-27T09:18:24Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"johannes.schindelin@gmx.de","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/127790?v=4"},"body":"Hi Patrick,\n\nOn Tue, 25 Mar 2025, Patrick Steinhardt wrote:\n\n> On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 10:09:29PM +0000, brian m. carlson wrote:\n> > On 2025-03-20 at 10:31:36, Patrick Steinhardt wrote:\n> > > given that this year is the 20th anniversary of the Git project it would\n> > > be great to host another Git Merge so that the wider community can come\n> > > together and celebrate. Taylor and I have been chatting about this\n> > > opportunity a bit to figure out what we're going to do this year.\n> > >\n> > > We have been discussing two different options:\n> > >\n> > >   - Hosting in the US in San Francisco at the GitHub HQ.\n> > >\n> > >   - Hosting in the EU in Amsterdam colocated with the Open Source\n> > >     Summit Europe.\n> > >\n> > > Typically, the location is alternating on a yearly basis between the US\n> > > and the EU. So given that last year it was hosted in Berlin it would be\n> > > the US' turn. But given the recent political climate in the US I'm\n> > > afraid that many people would not feel comfortable traveling there right\n> > > now. So in the spirit of being inclusive I think we should at least\n> > > consider whether we may want to break the typical alternating cycle and\n> > > host in the EU again.\n> >\n> > Yes, I do think that given current circumstances the U.S. is not a good\n> > place to host events.  Perhaps that will change in the future, but I\n> > don't think that would be a prudent choice right now.  I've talked to\n> > several people who are uncomfortable traveling there, so we'd probably\n> > get better attendance hosting elsewhere.\n> >\n> > I would be fine with Amsterdam, and I might also suggest a major\n> > Canadian city (such as Toronto, Montreal, or Vancouver) if we preferred\n> > to do this in North America (since we've traditionally alternated\n> > continents).  I can imagine other locations outside of the U.S. that\n> > might be fine as well, so I'm willing to keep an open mind if a good\n> > opportunity comes up.\n>\n> The only reasons why I proposed Amsterdam are the Open Source Summit and\n> that I have some ways to help out with organizing the event over there.\n\nIs there still a chance to have a Git thing alongside the Open Source\nSummit in Amsterdam? If so, I would be interested in going, as I -- like\nso many others already shared -- will not travel to the States this year.\n\nCiao,\nJohannes\n"}]}