{"thread":{"id":"52671","subject":"[PATCH] docs: use \"currently\" for the present time","startedAt":"2020-01-20T21:22:04Z","lastAt":"2020-01-21T19:10:36Z","messageCount":5,"participants":["brian m. carlson","Robert P. J. Day","Junio C Hamano","Philip Oakley"],"isPatch":true,"patchVersion":1,"patchTotal":null},"messages":[{"id":"390130","messageId":"20200120212156.4109999-1-sandals@crustytoothpaste.net","threadId":"52671","inReplyTo":null,"subject":"[PATCH] docs: use \"currently\" for the present time","fromName":"brian m. carlson","fromEmail":"sandals@crustytoothpaste.net","sentAt":"2020-01-20T21:21:56Z","receivedAt":"2020-01-20T21:22:04Z","isPatch":true,"sender":{"key":"sandals@crustytoothpaste.net","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/497054?v=4"},"body":"In many languages, the adverb with the root \"actual\" means \"at the\npresent time.\" However, this usage is considered dated or even archaic\nin English, and for referring to events occurring at the present time,\nwe usually prefer \"currently\" or \"presently\". \"Actually\" is commonly\nused in modern English only for the meaning of \"in fact\" or to express a\ncontrast with what is expected.\n\nSince the documentation refers to the available options at the present\ntime (that is, at the time of writing) instead of drawing a contrast,\nlet's switch to \"currently,\" which both is commonly used and sounds less\nformal than \"presently.\"\n\nSigned-off-by: brian m. carlson \n---\nThis is a minor issue I noticed one day and thought I'd send a patch\nfor. I should point out that English differs from virtually every other\nlanguage I can find that uses something like \"actual\", so this is an\neasy mistake to make.\n\n Documentation/config/http.txt | 4 ++--\n 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)\n\ndiff --git a/Documentation/config/http.txt b/Documentation/config/http.txt\nindex 5a32f5b0a5..8471b39f0f 100644\n--- a/Documentation/config/http.txt\n+++ b/Documentation/config/http.txt\n@@ -71,7 +71,7 @@ http.saveCookies::\n http.version::\n \tUse the specified HTTP protocol version when communicating with a server.\n \tIf you want to force the default. The available and default version depend\n-\ton libcurl. Actually the possible values of\n+\ton libcurl. Currently the possible values of\n \tthis option are:\n \n \t- HTTP/2\n@@ -84,7 +84,7 @@ http.sslVersion::\n \tparticular configuration of the crypto library in use. Internally\n \tthis sets the 'CURLOPT_SSL_VERSION' option; see the libcurl\n \tdocumentation for more details on the format of this option and\n-\tfor the ssl version supported. Actually the possible values of\n+\tfor the ssl version supported. Currently the possible values of\n \tthis option are:\n \n \t- sslv2\n"},{"id":"390133","messageId":"20200120215326.GE6570@camp.crustytoothpaste.net","threadId":"52671","inReplyTo":"alpine.LFD.2.21.2001201633240.8488@localhost.localdomain","subject":"Re: [PATCH] docs: use \"currently\" for the present time","fromName":"brian m. carlson","fromEmail":"sandals@crustytoothpaste.net","sentAt":"2020-01-20T21:53:26Z","receivedAt":"2020-01-20T21:53:33Z","isPatch":true,"sender":{"key":"sandals@crustytoothpaste.net","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/497054?v=4"},"body":"On 2020-01-20 at 21:33:58, Robert P. J. Day wrote:\n> On Mon, 20 Jan 2020, brian m. carlson wrote:\n> \n> > In many languages, the adverb with the root \"actual\" means \"at the\n> > present time.\" However, this usage is considered dated or even archaic\n> > in English, and for referring to events occurring at the present time,\n> > we usually prefer \"currently\" or \"presently\". \"Actually\" is commonly\n> > used in modern English only for the meaning of \"in fact\" or to express a\n> > contrast with what is expected.\n> \n> ... snip ...\n> \n> as someone who is constantly being sheldon cooper-level pedantic, i\n> totally agree with this sentiment.\n\nAs I mentioned, this is very minor and I can't imagine a native English\nspeaker being confused by it, nor can I imagine a speaker of most\nEuropean languages finding it confusing. It just stood out to me since\nI know Spanish and French and I thought, \"Oh, someone was thinking in\nanother language here.\"\n\nI've actually been sitting on this patch for a while because I thought\nit might be too minor to send, but I finally decided to do it as I was\nsending some other doc patches.\n-- \nbrian m. carlson: Houston, Texas, US\nOpenPGP: https://keybase.io/bk2204\n"},{"id":"390135","messageId":"alpine.LFD.2.21.2001201633240.8488@localhost.localdomain","threadId":"52671","inReplyTo":"20200120212156.4109999-1-sandals@crustytoothpaste.net","subject":"Re: [PATCH] docs: use \"currently\" for the present time","fromName":"Robert P. J. Day","fromEmail":"rpjday@crashcourse.ca","sentAt":"2020-01-20T21:33:58Z","receivedAt":"2020-01-20T22:03:18Z","isPatch":true,"sender":{"key":"rpjday@crashcourse.ca","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/226084077?v=4"},"body":"On Mon, 20 Jan 2020, brian m. carlson wrote:\n\n> In many languages, the adverb with the root \"actual\" means \"at the\n> present time.\" However, this usage is considered dated or even archaic\n> in English, and for referring to events occurring at the present time,\n> we usually prefer \"currently\" or \"presently\". \"Actually\" is commonly\n> used in modern English only for the meaning of \"in fact\" or to express a\n> contrast with what is expected.\n\n ... snip ...\n\nas someone who is constantly being sheldon cooper-level pedantic, i\ntotally agree with this sentiment.\n\nrday\n"},{"id":"390190","messageId":"xmqqo8uwabxf.fsf@gitster-ct.c.googlers.com","threadId":"52671","inReplyTo":"20200120215326.GE6570@camp.crustytoothpaste.net","subject":"Re: [PATCH] docs: use \"currently\" for the present time","fromName":"Junio C Hamano","fromEmail":"gitster@pobox.com","sentAt":"2020-01-21T18:42:36Z","receivedAt":"2020-01-21T18:42:45Z","isPatch":true,"sender":{"key":"gitster@pobox.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/54884?v=4"},"body":"\"brian m. carlson\" writes:\n\n> As I mentioned, this is very minor and I can't imagine a native English\n> speaker being confused by it, nor can I imagine a speaker of most\n> European languages finding it confusing. It just stood out to me since\n> I know Spanish and French and I thought, \"Oh, someone was thinking in\n> another language here.\"\n>\n> I've actually been sitting on this patch for a while because I thought\n> it might be too minor to send, but I finally decided to do it as I was\n> sending some other doc patches.\n\nThanks. The use in the sslVersion seems to have come from 01861cb7\n(\"http: add support for specifying the SSL version\", 2015-08-14) and\nthe other one seems to have just copied it at d73019fe (\"http: add\nsupport selecting http version\", 2018-11-08).\n\nWill queue.\n"},{"id":"390193","messageId":"59c8a840-ea78-02b3-edbf-c1c9b413393e@iee.email","threadId":"52671","inReplyTo":"alpine.LFD.2.21.2001201633240.8488@localhost.localdomain","subject":"Re: [PATCH] docs: use \"currently\" for the present time","fromName":"Philip Oakley","fromEmail":"philipoakley@iee.email","sentAt":"2020-01-21T19:10:25Z","receivedAt":"2020-01-21T19:10:36Z","isPatch":true,"sender":{"key":"philipoakley@iee.email","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/914343?v=4"},"body":"\n\nOn 20/01/2020 21:33, Robert P. J. Day wrote:\n> On Mon, 20 Jan 2020, brian m. carlson wrote:\n>\n>> In many languages, the adverb with the root \"actual\" means \"at the\n>> present time.\" However, this usage is considered dated or even archaic\n>> in English, and for referring to events occurring at the present time,\n>> we usually prefer \"currently\" or \"presently\". \"Actually\" is commonly\n>> used in modern English only for the meaning of \"in fact\" or to express a\n>> contrast with what is expected.\n> ... snip ...\n>\n> as someone who is constantly being sheldon cooper-level pedantic, i\n> totally agree with this sentiment.\n>\n> rday\nAs long as we don't use \"presently\" which is seen as a bit horrid here \nin UK (like 'momentarily' - as in 'I'll be with you..') ;-)\n\nPhilip.\n"}]}