{"thread":{"id":"46698","subject":"Git in Outreachy round 15?","startedAt":"2017-09-01T22:31:06Z","lastAt":"2017-09-07T11:35:36Z","messageCount":5,"participants":["Jeff King","Junio C Hamano","Christian Couder"],"isPatch":false,"patchVersion":null,"patchTotal":null},"messages":[{"id":"327515","messageId":"20170901223059.xsbcpqff45mnblnj@sigill.intra.peff.net","threadId":"46698","inReplyTo":null,"subject":"Git in Outreachy round 15?","fromName":"Jeff King","fromEmail":"peff@peff.net","sentAt":"2017-09-01T22:30:59Z","receivedAt":"2017-09-01T22:31:06Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"peff@peff.net","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/45925?v=4"},"body":"Hi all,\n\nI know we're just finishing up GSoC, but I want to get opinions on Git\nparticipating in the next round of Outreachy, which will be accepting\ninterns over the next month or two.\n\nDetails and timelines are here:\n\n https://www.outreachy.org/\n\n https://www.outreachy.org/mentor/\n\nFor those not familiar with Outreachy, it's an internship program\nfocused on providing mentorship and stipends to groups that are\nunder-represented in Tech. The internship term is 3 months. Unlike other\nprograms like GSoC, individual projects (rather than the program) cover\nthe stipend, which is $6500 this round.\n\nThe big questions on whether we can make this happen are:\n\n 1. Do we have mentor interest?\n\n I'm willing to mentor, but I'd like to hear whether other people\n are interested, as well. Either way I can take responsibility for\n the administrative bits.\n\n We could probably use some effort brushing up our project-ideas\n page. I've also considered whether it would make sense to do a\n \"mixed bag\" project where somebody works on multiple smaller\n projects, and we try to get them more involved in day-to-day\n project activities (after all, very few of us started working on\n Git with a dedicated 3-month project; people typically ease into it\n by fixing small problems, reviewing code, etc).\n\n 2. Do we have the money (and want to spend it on this)?\n\n The Git project does have money to cover at least one intern.\n\n I'm looking into securing outside funding, so that we don't have to\n use project funds. If for whatever reason that doesn't happen, is\n this something we want to spend project money on?\n\n (My opinion is yes, but I'd like to hear what others in the\n community think).\n\n-Peff\n"},{"id":"327538","messageId":"xmqqk21ddgz7.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com","threadId":"46698","inReplyTo":"20170901223059.xsbcpqff45mnblnj@sigill.intra.peff.net","subject":"Re: Git in Outreachy round 15?","fromName":"Junio C Hamano","fromEmail":"gitster@pobox.com","sentAt":"2017-09-05T02:19:56Z","receivedAt":"2017-09-05T02:20:10Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"gitster@pobox.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/54884?v=4"},"body":"Jeff King writes:\n\n> 2. Do we have the money (and want to spend it on this)?\n>\n> The Git project does have money to cover at least one intern.\n>\n> I'm looking into securing outside funding, so that we don't have to\n> use project funds. If for whatever reason that doesn't happen, is\n> this something we want to spend project money on?\n>\n> (My opinion is yes, but I'd like to hear what others in the\n> community think).\n\n$6,500 is a bargain if we could guide an intern and help set the\ncourse to become a competent open source person. It would be nice\nif the intern stays in our community, but I do not even mind if the\ninvestment follows the intern elsewhere and enrich other open source\nprojects.\n\nIt is a different matter if our mentor pool is rich enough to give\nsufficient support and training to the intern, but if you are\nvolunteering to mentor, I wouldn't have any worries. I do agree\nwith you that it would be a good idea to polish the project-ideas\npage.\n\nThanks.\n"},{"id":"327547","messageId":"20170905114043.dkjczpioxvu7biw6@sigill.intra.peff.net","threadId":"46698","inReplyTo":"xmqqk21ddgz7.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com","subject":"Re: Git in Outreachy round 15?","fromName":"Jeff King","fromEmail":"peff@peff.net","sentAt":"2017-09-05T11:40:43Z","receivedAt":"2017-09-05T11:40:59Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"peff@peff.net","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/45925?v=4"},"body":"On Tue, Sep 05, 2017 at 11:19:56AM +0900, Junio C Hamano wrote:\n\n> $6,500 is a bargain if we could guide an intern and help set the\n> course to become a competent open source person. It would be nice\n> if the intern stays in our community, but I do not even mind if the\n> investment follows the intern elsewhere and enrich other open source\n> projects.\n\nAgreed on all counts. I am still dotting i's and crossing t's, but I am\npretty sure I have outside funding lined up anyway, though.\n\n> It is a different matter if our mentor pool is rich enough to give\n> sufficient support and training to the intern, but if you are\n> volunteering to mentor, I wouldn't have any worries. I do agree\n> with you that it would be a good idea to polish the project-ideas\n> page.\n\nWe actually need to put together a \"landing page\". The guidelines are\nat:\n\n https://www.outreachy.org/mentor/landing-page-requirements/\n\nTiming-wise, the application period opens this Thursday. So I'll plan to\nwork on it over the next day or two, but I'd appreciate any help that\nothers can provide (even if I end up as the only available mentor).\n\n-Peff\n"},{"id":"327606","messageId":"CAP8UFD16Sg9q1TDku7gJZUCYB03GaBx0mNXjvE6A4W6zTxY6Lw@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"46698","inReplyTo":"20170901223059.xsbcpqff45mnblnj@sigill.intra.peff.net","subject":"Re: Git in Outreachy round 15?","fromName":"Christian Couder","fromEmail":"christian.couder@gmail.com","sentAt":"2017-09-05T21:06:34Z","receivedAt":"2017-09-05T21:06:44Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"christian.couder@gmail.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/208954?v=4"},"body":"Hi,\n\nOn Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 12:30 AM, Jeff King wrote:\n>\n> The big questions on whether we can make this happen are:\n>\n> 1. Do we have mentor interest?\n>\n> I'm willing to mentor, but I'd like to hear whether other people\n> are interested, as well. Either way I can take responsibility for\n> the administrative bits.\n\nI am willing to co-mentor, but I prefer not to take care of administrative bits.\n\n> We could probably use some effort brushing up our project-ideas\n> page. I've also considered whether it would make sense to do a\n> \"mixed bag\" project where somebody works on multiple smaller\n> projects, and we try to get them more involved in day-to-day\n> project activities (after all, very few of us started working on\n> Git with a dedicated 3-month project; people typically ease into it\n> by fixing small problems, reviewing code, etc).\n\nI agree that we should try \"mixed bag\" projects consisting in multiple\nsmaller projects.\nIt would be very interesting to see if it provides better results.\n\n> 2. Do we have the money (and want to spend it on this)?\n>\n> The Git project does have money to cover at least one intern.\n>\n> I'm looking into securing outside funding, so that we don't have to\n> use project funds. If for whatever reason that doesn't happen, is\n> this something we want to spend project money on?\n>\n> (My opinion is yes, but I'd like to hear what others in the\n> community think).\n\nMy opinion is yes too.\n\nIs there something like the GSoC Mentor Summit? I think this is an\ninteresting part of the GSoC and it could help motivate mentors if\nthere was something like that.\n\nThanks for taking care of this,\nChristian.\n"},{"id":"327702","messageId":"20170907113525.py4m4kndslrlyepq@sigill.intra.peff.net","threadId":"46698","inReplyTo":"CAP8UFD16Sg9q1TDku7gJZUCYB03GaBx0mNXjvE6A4W6zTxY6Lw@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: Git in Outreachy round 15?","fromName":"Jeff King","fromEmail":"peff@peff.net","sentAt":"2017-09-07T11:35:25Z","receivedAt":"2017-09-07T11:35:36Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"peff@peff.net","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/45925?v=4"},"body":"On Tue, Sep 05, 2017 at 11:06:34PM +0200, Christian Couder wrote:\n\n> On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 12:30 AM, Jeff King wrote:\n> >\n> > The big questions on whether we can make this happen are:\n> >\n> > 1. Do we have mentor interest?\n> >\n> > I'm willing to mentor, but I'd like to hear whether other people\n> > are interested, as well. Either way I can take responsibility for\n> > the administrative bits.\n> \n> I am willing to co-mentor, but I prefer not to take care of administrative bits.\n\nThanks. I've listed you as a mentor on the landing page at:\n\n https://git.github.io/Outreachy-15/\n\nThe instructions for mentors can be found at:\n\n https://www.outreachy.org/mentor/\n\nI've put a few projects on the landing page, but feel free to modify it\nas you see fit.\n\n> Is there something like the GSoC Mentor Summit? I think this is an\n> interesting part of the GSoC and it could help motivate mentors if\n> there was something like that.\n\nNo, I don't think that there is (though I'm pretty sure that there are\nsome sessions about Outreachy at the Mentor Summit).\n\n-Peff\n"}]}