{"thread":{"id":"43052","subject":"Mapping old gmane numbers to existing amil servers?","startedAt":"2016-08-11T07:04:23Z","lastAt":"2016-08-12T07:43:20Z","messageCount":5,"participants":["Philip Oakley","Eric Wong"],"isPatch":false,"patchVersion":null,"patchTotal":null},"messages":[{"id":"293693","messageId":"73FC8DE87D24466EBEE0A5B96CBDFFBF@PhilipOakley","threadId":"43052","inReplyTo":null,"subject":"Mapping old gmane numbers to existing amil servers?","fromName":"Philip Oakley","fromEmail":"philipoakley@iee.org","sentAt":"2016-08-11T07:01:56Z","receivedAt":"2016-08-11T07:04:23Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"philipoakley@iee.email","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/914343?v=4"},"body":"Is there an accessible mapping from the old gmane message numbers to one of \nthe remaining email list servers for the git list?\n\nI've seen discussions about the public-inbox, but no mention of any mapping \nfor old message references.\n\n--\n\nPhilip\n\n"},{"id":"293695","messageId":"20160811075628.GA24690@starla","threadId":"43052","inReplyTo":"73FC8DE87D24466EBEE0A5B96CBDFFBF@PhilipOakley","subject":"Re: Mapping old gmane numbers to existing amil servers?","fromName":"Eric Wong","fromEmail":"e@80x24.org","sentAt":"2016-08-11T07:56:28Z","receivedAt":"2016-08-11T07:56:34Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"e@80x24.org","avatar":null},"body":"Philip Oakley <philipoakley@iee.org> wrote:\n> Is there an accessible mapping from the old gmane message numbers to one of\n> the remaining email list servers for the git list?\n\nYes, I just posted about this after posting an initial mapping\na few weeks ago:\nhttps://public-inbox.org/git/20160811002819.GA8311@starla/T/#u\n\nUsing \"gmane:$NUM\" in the search bar should work, now.\n(there's a few missing messages which might've been due to\n off-by-one errors, will fill them in soon)\n\n> I've seen discussions about the public-inbox, but no mention of any mapping\n> for old message references.\n\nI had a gzipped text file published originally if you look\nupthread there.\n"},{"id":"298791","messageId":"95848D06D55D4633A686DD892D12F501@PhilipOakley","threadId":"43052","inReplyTo":"20160811075628.GA24690@starla","subject":"Re: Mapping old gmane numbers to existing amil servers?","fromName":"Philip Oakley","fromEmail":"philipoakley@iee.org","sentAt":"2016-08-11T21:00:48Z","receivedAt":"2016-08-11T21:09:04Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"philipoakley@iee.email","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/914343?v=4"},"body":"From: \"Eric Wong\" <e@80x24.org>\nSent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 8:56 AM\n> Philip Oakley <philipoakley@iee.org> wrote:\n>> Is there an accessible mapping from the old gmane message numbers to one \n>> of\n>> the remaining email list servers for the git list?\n>\n> Yes, I just posted about this after posting an initial mapping\n> a few weeks ago:\n> https://public-inbox.org/git/20160811002819.GA8311@starla/T/#u\n>\n> Using \"gmane:$NUM\" in the search bar should work, now.\n> (there's a few missing messages which might've been due to\n> off-by-one errors, will fill them in soon)\n>\n>> I've seen discussions about the public-inbox, but no mention of any \n>> mapping\n>> for old message references.\n>\n> I had a gzipped text file published originally if you look\n> upthread there.\n>\n\nThanks.\n\nThe raw download works. My home ISP is currently blocking your email for \nsome reason, though I do see it at my work - my iee.org alias is via my \nprofessional body which duplicates the email when it relays it.\n\nOn thing I did note on the web display of the threads is that it would be \ngood to have a leader of \" . . . . . `\" so that one can count the level of \nindent, and see the alignments via the columns of dots.\n\nWhen looking at \nhttps://public-inbox.org/git/0648000B273C412AB7140AE959EBC99A%40PhilipOakley/ I \nhad difficulty working out which email the last 4 were replying to.\n\n"},{"id":"298795","messageId":"20160811222615.GA5607@starla","threadId":"43052","inReplyTo":"95848D06D55D4633A686DD892D12F501@PhilipOakley","subject":"Re: Mapping old gmane numbers to existing amil servers?","fromName":"Eric Wong","fromEmail":"e@80x24.org","sentAt":"2016-08-11T22:26:15Z","receivedAt":"2016-08-11T22:26:20Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"e@80x24.org","avatar":null},"body":"Philip Oakley <philipoakley@iee.org> wrote:\n> The raw download works. My home ISP is currently blocking your email for\n> some reason, though I do see it at my work - my iee.org alias is via my\n> professional body which duplicates the email when it relays it.\n\nHmm, do other emails from other users get blocked?\nI wonder if it's lack of DKIM (which gets invalidated by the\nlist sig vger appends) or something else...\n\n> On thing I did note on the web display of the threads is that it would be\n> good to have a leader of \" . . . . . `\" so that one can count the level of\n> indent, and see the alignments via the columns of dots.\n> \n> When looking at\n> https://public-inbox.org/git/0648000B273C412AB7140AE959EBC99A%40PhilipOakley/\n> I had difficulty working out which email the last 4 were replying to.\n\nhttps://public-inbox.org/git/0648000B273C412AB7140AE959EBC99A%40PhilipOakley/\nSo, right now, it's:\n\n2016-07-20 21:10               ` [PATCH v4 8/8] doc: revisions - clarify reachability examples Philip Oakley\n2016-07-20 22:22               ` Junio C Hamano\n2016-08-11 21:50               ` [PATCH v5 00/12] Update git revisions Philip Oakley\n2016-08-11 21:50                 ` [PATCH v5 01/12] doc: use 'symmetric difference' consistently Philip Oakley\n2016-06-25 19:49       ` Junio C Hamano\n2016-06-27 13:37         ` Philip Oakley\n2016-06-27 15:08           ` Junio C Hamano\n2016-06-27 15:39             ` Philip Oakley\n\nAnd you would rather see something like:\n\n2016-07-20 21:10       .       ` [PATCH v4 8/8] doc: revisions - clarify reachability examples Philip Oakley\n2016-07-20 22:22       .       ` Junio C Hamano\n2016-08-11 21:50       .       ` [PATCH v5 00/12] Update git revisions Philip Oakley\n2016-08-11 21:50       .         ` [PATCH v5 01/12] doc: use 'symmetric difference' consistently Philip Oakley\n2016-06-25 19:49       ` Junio C Hamano\n2016-06-27 13:37         ` Philip Oakley\n2016-06-27 15:08           ` Junio C Hamano\n2016-06-27 15:39             ` Philip Oakley\n\n?\n\nActually, my initial inclination was to use the '|' character\nwhich is what mutt does\n\n2016-07-20 21:10       |       } [PATCH v4 8/8] doc: revisions - clarify reachability examples Philip Oakley\n2016-07-20 22:22       |       } Junio C Hamano\n2016-08-11 21:50       |       ` [PATCH v5 00/12] Update git revisions Philip Oakley\n2016-08-11 21:50       |         ` [PATCH v5 01/12] doc: use 'symmetric difference' consistently Philip Oakley\n2016-06-25 19:49       ` Junio C Hamano\n2016-06-27 13:37         ` Philip Oakley\n2016-06-27 15:08           ` Junio C Hamano\n2016-06-27 15:39             ` Philip Oakley\n\nIt should be doable, and the '`' immediately following the last\n'|' probably ought to be a link to the parent, too.\n\nI would also like to use '}' (as above) or '+' where mutt would\nuse \"├─>\" or just '├', but I don't think I can introduce multibyte\nchars without causing problems for some users.\n\nAnyways, it's definitely on my ever-growing todo list.\n\n\n(Wow, it is refreshing to be a \"web designer\" who can live\n entirely in a terminal without relying on screenshots :D)\n"},{"id":"298831","messageId":"6E3699DEA672430CAEA6DEFEDE6918F4@PhilipOakley","threadId":"43052","inReplyTo":"20160811222615.GA5607@starla","subject":"Re: Mapping old gmane numbers to existing amil servers?","fromName":"Philip Oakley","fromEmail":"philipoakley@iee.org","sentAt":"2016-08-12T07:38:24Z","receivedAt":"2016-08-12T07:43:20Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"philipoakley@iee.email","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/914343?v=4"},"body":"From: \"Eric Wong\" <e@80x24.org>\nSent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 11:26 PM\n> Philip Oakley <philipoakley@iee.org> wrote:\n>> The raw download works. My home ISP is currently blocking your email for\n>> some reason, though I do see it at my work - my iee.org alias is via my\n>> professional body which duplicates the email when it relays it.\n>\n> Hmm, do other emails from other users get blocked?\n> I wonder if it's lack of DKIM (which gets invalidated by the\n> list sig vger appends) or something else...\n\nNot really sure. My professional body's alias service now uses EveryCloud \nfor its antispam. initially it also blocked your mails as 'spam', by the \ndaily notification allows me to white list that. However the forwarded \nemails go to both home & work, and only the home ISP (cheap but annoying) \nthen has no white list mechanism and no way of seeing what they binned.\n\n>\n>> On thing I did note on the web display of the threads is that it would be\n>> good to have a leader of \" . . . . . `\" so that one can count the level \n>> of\n>> indent, and see the alignments via the columns of dots.\n>>\n>> When looking at\n>> https://public-inbox.org/git/0648000B273C412AB7140AE959EBC99A%40PhilipOakley/\n>> I had difficulty working out which email the last 4 were replying to.\n>\n> https://public-inbox.org/git/0648000B273C412AB7140AE959EBC99A%40PhilipOakley/\n> So, right now, it's:\n>\n> 2016-07-20 21:10               ` [PATCH v4 8/8] doc: revisions - clarify \n> reachability examples Philip Oakley\n> 2016-07-20 22:22               ` Junio C Hamano\n> 2016-08-11 21:50               ` [PATCH v5 00/12] Update git revisions \n> Philip Oakley\n> 2016-08-11 21:50                 ` [PATCH v5 01/12] doc: use 'symmetric \n> difference' consistently Philip Oakley\n> 2016-06-25 19:49       ` Junio C Hamano\n> 2016-06-27 13:37         ` Philip Oakley\n> 2016-06-27 15:08           ` Junio C Hamano\n> 2016-06-27 15:39             ` Philip Oakley\n>\n> And you would rather see something like:\n>\n> 2016-07-20 21:10       .       ` [PATCH v4 8/8] doc: revisions - clarify \n> reachability examples Philip Oakley\n> 2016-07-20 22:22       .       ` Junio C Hamano\n> 2016-08-11 21:50       .       ` [PATCH v5 00/12] Update git revisions \n> Philip Oakley\n> 2016-08-11 21:50       .         ` [PATCH v5 01/12] doc: use 'symmetric \n> difference' consistently Philip Oakley\n> 2016-06-25 19:49       ` Junio C Hamano\n> 2016-06-27 13:37         ` Philip Oakley\n> 2016-06-27 15:08           ` Junio C Hamano\n> 2016-06-27 15:39             ` Philip Oakley\n>\n\nNot quite, something like:\n2016-07-20 21:10       . . . . ` [PATCH v4 8/8] doc: revisions - clarify \nreachability examples Philip Oakley\n2016-07-20 22:22       . . . . ` Junio C Hamano\n2016-08-11 21:50       . . . . ` [PATCH v5 00/12] Update git revisions \nPhilip Oakley\n2016-08-11 21:50       . . . . . ` [PATCH v5 01/12] doc: use 'symmetric \ndifference' consistently Philip Oakley\n2016-06-25 19:49       ` Junio C Hamano\n2016-06-27 13:37         ` Philip Oakley\n2016-06-27 15:08           ` Junio C Hamano\n2016-06-27 15:39             ` Philip Oakley\n\n\nI haven't filled in the last ones because there are no matching follow on \nreplies, e.g to Junio' s 2016-06-25 19:49 message.\n(I may not have put in enough of the lead either)\nHowever for ease of formatting I guess that simply setting the indent to be \n'. ' rather than '  ' (both 2 chars) would create the impression of the \nmessages being on an indent grid\n\nIf rather than looking at those below junio's reply, you try and look at \nwhich message he was replying to, it's very hard (It's more than a full \nscreen scroll up), hance the request for the alignment 'column of dots'. I \nthink he was replying to my 2016-06-25 13:50, but it's not easy to be sure.\n\n> ?\n>\n> Actually, my initial inclination was to use the '|' character\n> which is what mutt does\n>\n> 2016-07-20 21:10       |       } [PATCH v4 8/8] doc: revisions - clarify \n> reachability examples Philip Oakley\n> 2016-07-20 22:22       |       } Junio C Hamano\n> 2016-08-11 21:50       |       ` [PATCH v5 00/12] Update git revisions \n> Philip Oakley\n> 2016-08-11 21:50       |         ` [PATCH v5 01/12] doc: use 'symmetric \n> difference' consistently Philip Oakley\n> 2016-06-25 19:49       ` Junio C Hamano\n> 2016-06-27 13:37         ` Philip Oakley\n> 2016-06-27 15:08           ` Junio C Hamano\n> 2016-06-27 15:39             ` Philip Oakley\n>\n> It should be doable, and the '`' immediately following the last\n> '|' probably ought to be a link to the parent, too.\n>\n\nI feel that the '¦' style chars will fill the screen too much (with '.' \nbeing the minimalist I can think of), but it's a personal choice.\n\n> I would also like to use '}' (as above) or '+' where mutt would\n> use \"├─>\" or just '├', but I don't think I can introduce multibyte\n> chars without causing problems for some users.\n>\n> Anyways, it's definitely on my ever-growing todo list.\n>\n>\n> (Wow, it is refreshing to be a \"web designer\" who can live\n> entirely in a terminal without relying on screenshots :D)\n>\n>\n\nPhilip \n\n"}]}