{"thread":{"id":"4268","subject":"Re: [osol-bugs] access() behaves strange when used as root","startedAt":"2006-05-23T20:43:56Z","lastAt":"2006-05-24T14:09:17Z","messageCount":4,"participants":["Stefan Pfetzing","Linus Torvalds"],"isPatch":false,"patchVersion":null,"patchTotal":null},"messages":[{"id":"20578","messageId":"f3d7535d0605231343h51bfb2c9w1d15536b92874a88@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"4268","inReplyTo":"44735D61.nail4RQ116Y06@burner","subject":"Re: [osol-bugs] access() behaves strange when used as root","fromName":"Stefan Pfetzing","fromEmail":"stefan.pfetzing@gmail.com","sentAt":"2006-05-23T20:43:56Z","receivedAt":"2006-05-23T20:43:56Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"stefan.pfetzing@gmail.com","avatar":null},"body":"Hi Joerg,\n\n2006/5/23, Joerg Schilling <schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de>:\n> Before claiming that Soplaris is not behaving correctly, you should have a look\n> into the standard.......\n\nI didn't say Solaris does not behave \"correctly\" - I just said it does\nnot behave as every\nother POSIX/SUS Unix I know.\n\n> The behavior of Solaris access() is OK.\n\nI know that its completely ok with SUS - and I did say that before.\n\nPrimarily I was just wondering about this behaviour and IMHO the git\ndevelopers were too.\n\nbye\n\nStefan\n\n-- \n       http://www.dreamind.de/\nOroborus and Debian GNU/Linux Developer.\n"},{"id":"20579","messageId":"Pine.LNX.4.64.0605231349180.5623@g5.osdl.org","threadId":"4268","inReplyTo":"f3d7535d0605231343h51bfb2c9w1d15536b92874a88@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: [osol-bugs] access() behaves strange when used as root","fromName":"Linus Torvalds","fromEmail":"torvalds@osdl.org","sentAt":"2006-05-23T20:54:08Z","receivedAt":"2006-05-23T20:54:08Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"torvalds@linux-foundation.org","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/1024025?v=4"},"body":"\n\nOn Tue, 23 May 2006, Stefan Pfetzing wrote:\n>\n> Hi Joerg,\n\nDon't bother talking to Joerg.\n\nHe's a certified loon, and thinks Solaris is correct by definition. He's \ninsane. He thinks that anybody who does anything different from Solaris is \nby definition not just wrong, but actively evil, even when the \"anything \ndifferent\" is clearly superior (ie he thinks that Solaris device naming is \nnot only sane, but claims that everybody else should do it that way).\n\nIf you ever wondered why \"cdrecord\" takes a default device argument of the \nforma \"dev=0,1,0\" or other random numbers, it's Joerg.\n\nSo just ignore him. I hope the OpenSolaris lists have saner people around.\n\n\t\tLinus\n"},{"id":"20630","messageId":"f3d7535d0605240708k7e55cc3fu8c2e8ad744f738c9@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"4268","inReplyTo":"447460C1.6070305@sun.com","subject":"Re: [osol-bugs] access() behaves strange when used as root","fromName":"Stefan Pfetzing","fromEmail":"stefan.pfetzing@gmail.com","sentAt":"2006-05-24T14:08:21Z","receivedAt":"2006-05-24T14:08:21Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"stefan.pfetzing@gmail.com","avatar":null},"body":"Hi Alan,\n\n2006/5/24, Alan Coopersmith <Alan.Coopersmith@sun.com>:\n\n> Compilers also fall in the class of things I've never understood why\n> people would ever run as root.   Far too complex and completely unnecessary.\n> \"make all\" as a normal user, and then if you absolutely must, \"make install\"\n> as root.  (After running \"make -n install\" first to see what it will do.)\n\nYes thats completely true, but it still leaves the point if you want\nto manage some\nof your config files with git.\n\nbye\n\nStefan\n\n-- \n       http://www.dreamind.de/\nOroborus and Debian GNU/Linux Developer.\n"},{"id":"20631","messageId":"f3d7535d0605240709p19497614s30ec87492a189faf@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"4268","inReplyTo":"f3d7535d0605240708k7e55cc3fu8c2e8ad744f738c9@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: [osol-bugs] access() behaves strange when used as root","fromName":"Stefan Pfetzing","fromEmail":"stefan.pfetzing@gmail.com","sentAt":"2006-05-24T14:09:17Z","receivedAt":"2006-05-24T14:09:17Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"stefan.pfetzing@gmail.com","avatar":null},"body":"[snip]\n\noups - sorry, wrong recepient... :( *shrug*\n\nbye\n\nStefan\n\n-- \n       http://www.dreamind.de/\nOroborus and Debian GNU/Linux Developer.\n"}]}