{"thread":{"id":"39166","subject":"[PATCH] Update git-multimail to version 1.0.2","startedAt":"2015-04-27T11:17:25Z","lastAt":"2015-04-28T07:20:02Z","messageCount":12,"participants":["Michael Haggerty","Matthieu Moy","Junio C Hamano"],"isPatch":true,"patchVersion":1,"patchTotal":null},"messages":[{"id":"260052","messageId":"1430133445-21488-1-git-send-email-mhagger@alum.mit.edu","threadId":"39166","inReplyTo":null,"subject":"[PATCH] Update git-multimail to version 1.0.2","fromName":"Michael Haggerty","fromEmail":"mhagger@alum.mit.edu","sentAt":"2015-04-27T11:17:25Z","receivedAt":"2015-04-27T11:17:25Z","isPatch":true,"sender":{"key":"mhagger@alum.mit.edu","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/119718?v=4"},"body":"The only changes are to the README files, most notably the list of\nmaintainers and the project URL.\n\nSigned-off-by: Michael Haggerty \n---\n contrib/hooks/multimail/README | 43 +++++++++++++++++++-------------------\n contrib/hooks/multimail/README.Git | 6 +++---\n 2 files changed, 25 insertions(+), 24 deletions(-)\n\ndiff --git a/contrib/hooks/multimail/README b/contrib/hooks/multimail/README\nindex 477d65f..6efa4ff 100644\n--- a/contrib/hooks/multimail/README\n+++ b/contrib/hooks/multimail/README\n@@ -456,34 +456,35 @@ consider sharing them with the community!\n Getting involved\n ----------------\n \n-git-multimail is an open-source project, built by volunteers. We\n-would welcome your help!\n+git-multimail is an open-source project, built by volunteers. We would\n+welcome your help!\n \n-The current maintainer is Michael Haggerty .\n+The current maintainers are Michael Haggerty \n+and Matthieu Moy .\n \n-General discussion of git-multimail takes place on the main Git\n-mailing list,\n+Please note that although a copy of git-multimail is distributed in\n+the \"contrib\" section of the main Git project, development takes place\n+in a separate git-multimail repository on GitHub:\n \n- git@vger.kernel.org\n+ https://github.com/git-multimail/git-multimail\n \n-Please CC emails regarding git-multimail to me so that I don't\n-overlook them.\n+Whenever enough changes to git-multimail have accumulated, a new\n+code-drop of git-multimail will be submitted for inclusion in the Git\n+project.\n \n-The git-multimail project itself is currently hosted on GitHub:\n+We use the GitHub issue tracker to keep track of bugs and feature\n+requests, and we use GitHub pull requests to exchange patches (though,\n+if you prefer, you can send patches via the Git mailing list with CC\n+to the maintainers). Please sign off your patches as per the Git\n+project practice.\n \n- https://github.com/mhagger/git-multimail\n+General discussion of git-multimail can take place on the main Git\n+mailing list,\n \n-We use the GitHub issue tracker to keep track of bugs and feature\n-requests, and GitHub pull requests to exchange patches (though, if you\n-prefer, you can send patches via the Git mailing list with cc to me).\n-Please sign off your patches as per the Git project practice.\n-\n-Please note that although a copy of git-multimail will probably be\n-distributed in the \"contrib\" section of the main Git project,\n-development takes place in the separate git-multimail repository on\n-GitHub! (Whenever enough changes to git-multimail have accumulated, a\n-new code-drop of git-multimail will be submitted for inclusion in the\n-Git project.)\n+ git@vger.kernel.org\n+\n+Please CC emails regarding git-multimail to the maintainers so that we\n+don't overlook them.\n \n \n Footnotes\ndiff --git a/contrib/hooks/multimail/README.Git b/contrib/hooks/multimail/README.Git\nindex 129b771..ab3ece5 100644\n--- a/contrib/hooks/multimail/README.Git\n+++ b/contrib/hooks/multimail/README.Git\n@@ -3,13 +3,13 @@ section of the Git project as a convenience to Git users.\n git-multimail is developed as an independent project at the following\n website:\n \n- https://github.com/mhagger/git-multimail\n+ https://github.com/git-multimail/git-multimail\n \n The version in this directory was obtained from the upstream project\n-on 2014-04-07 and consists of the \"git-multimail\" subdirectory from\n+on 2015-04-27 and consists of the \"git-multimail\" subdirectory from\n revision\n \n- 1b32653bafc4f902535b9fc1cd9cae911325b870\n+ 8c3aaafa873bf10de8dddf1d202c449b3eff3b42 refs/tags/1.0.2\n \n Please see the README file in this directory for information about how\n to report bugs or contribute to git-multimail.\n-- \n2.1.4\n"},{"id":"260053","messageId":"vpq8uddbyic.fsf@anie.imag.fr","threadId":"39166","inReplyTo":"1430133445-21488-1-git-send-email-mhagger@alum.mit.edu","subject":"Re: [PATCH] Update git-multimail to version 1.0.2","fromName":"Matthieu Moy","fromEmail":"matthieu.moy@grenoble-inp.fr","sentAt":"2015-04-27T11:29:15Z","receivedAt":"2015-04-27T11:29:15Z","isPatch":true,"sender":{"key":"matthieu.moy@grenoble-inp.fr","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/72c8a2705971a25dfaff23cece15130d405685845d911aedd5667ace277f3fc5?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"Michael Haggerty writes:\n\n> The only changes are to the README files, most notably the list of\n> maintainers and the project URL.\n>\n> Signed-off-by: Michael Haggerty \n> ---\n> contrib/hooks/multimail/README | 43 +++++++++++++++++++-------------------\n> contrib/hooks/multimail/README.Git | 6 +++---\n> 2 files changed, 25 insertions(+), 24 deletions(-)\n\nAcked-by: Matthieu Moy \n\n-- \nMatthieu Moy\nhttp://www-verimag.imag.fr/~moy/\n"},{"id":"260062","messageId":"xmqq618hxxya.fsf@gitster.dls.corp.google.com","threadId":"39166","inReplyTo":"1430133445-21488-1-git-send-email-mhagger@alum.mit.edu","subject":"Re: [PATCH] Update git-multimail to version 1.0.2","fromName":"Junio C Hamano","fromEmail":"gitster@pobox.com","sentAt":"2015-04-27T17:50:21Z","receivedAt":"2015-04-27T17:50:21Z","isPatch":true,"sender":{"key":"gitster@pobox.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/54884?v=4"},"body":"Michael Haggerty writes:\n\n> The only changes are to the README files, most notably the list of\n> maintainers and the project URL.\n>\n> Signed-off-by: Michael Haggerty \n> ---\n> contrib/hooks/multimail/README | 43 +++++++++++++++++++-------------------\n> contrib/hooks/multimail/README.Git | 6 +++---\n> 2 files changed, 25 insertions(+), 24 deletions(-)\n> ...\n\n(mental note) OK, only the doc updates; that should be safe even to\napply during -rc freeze period if I wanted to...\n\n> diff --git a/contrib/hooks/multimail/README b/contrib/hooks/multimail/README\n> index 477d65f..6efa4ff 100644\n> --- a/contrib/hooks/multimail/README\n> +++ b/contrib/hooks/multimail/README\n> @@ -456,34 +456,35 @@ consider sharing them with the community!\n> Getting involved\n> ----------------\n> \n> -git-multimail is an open-source project, built by volunteers. We\n> -would welcome your help!\n> +git-multimail is an open-source project, built by volunteers. We would\n> +welcome your help!\n\nYuck.\n\n> +Whenever enough changes to git-multimail have accumulated, a new\n> +code-drop of git-multimail will be submitted for inclusion in the Git\n> +project.\n\nOK.\n\n> diff --git a/contrib/hooks/multimail/README.Git b/contrib/hooks/multimail/README.Git\n> index 129b771..ab3ece5 100644\n> --- a/contrib/hooks/multimail/README.Git\n> +++ b/contrib/hooks/multimail/README.Git\n> @@ -3,13 +3,13 @@ section of the Git project as a convenience to Git users.\n> git-multimail is developed as an independent project at the following\n> website:\n> \n> - https://github.com/mhagger/git-multimail\n> + https://github.com/git-multimail/git-multimail\n> \n> The version in this directory was obtained from the upstream project\n> -on 2014-04-07 and consists of the \"git-multimail\" subdirectory from\n> +on 2015-04-27 and consists of the \"git-multimail\" subdirectory from\n> revision\n> \n> - 1b32653bafc4f902535b9fc1cd9cae911325b870\n> + 8c3aaafa873bf10de8dddf1d202c449b3eff3b42 refs/tags/1.0.2\n\nHuh, really?\n"},{"id":"260067","messageId":"vpq383ltoxi.fsf@anie.imag.fr","threadId":"39166","inReplyTo":"xmqq618hxxya.fsf@gitster.dls.corp.google.com","subject":"Re: [PATCH] Update git-multimail to version 1.0.2","fromName":"Matthieu Moy","fromEmail":"matthieu.moy@grenoble-inp.fr","sentAt":"2015-04-27T18:18:49Z","receivedAt":"2015-04-27T18:18:49Z","isPatch":true,"sender":{"key":"matthieu.moy@grenoble-inp.fr","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/72c8a2705971a25dfaff23cece15130d405685845d911aedd5667ace277f3fc5?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"Junio C Hamano writes:\n\n>> --- a/contrib/hooks/multimail/README.Git\n>> +++ b/contrib/hooks/multimail/README.Git\n>> @@ -3,13 +3,13 @@ section of the Git project as a convenience to Git users.\n>> git-multimail is developed as an independent project at the following\n>> website:\n>> \n>> - https://github.com/mhagger/git-multimail\n>> + https://github.com/git-multimail/git-multimail\n>> \n>> The version in this directory was obtained from the upstream project\n>> -on 2014-04-07 and consists of the \"git-multimail\" subdirectory from\n>> +on 2015-04-27 and consists of the \"git-multimail\" subdirectory from\n>> revision\n>> \n>> - 1b32653bafc4f902535b9fc1cd9cae911325b870\n>> + 8c3aaafa873bf10de8dddf1d202c449b3eff3b42 refs/tags/1.0.2\n>\n> Huh, really?\n\nWhat's the problem with this hunk? I just checked, and the tag is there,\nwith the right sha1.\n\n-- \nMatthieu Moy\nhttp://www-verimag.imag.fr/~moy/\n"},{"id":"260068","messageId":"xmqqoam9whs0.fsf@gitster.dls.corp.google.com","threadId":"39166","inReplyTo":"vpq383ltoxi.fsf@anie.imag.fr","subject":"Re: [PATCH] Update git-multimail to version 1.0.2","fromName":"Junio C Hamano","fromEmail":"gitster@pobox.com","sentAt":"2015-04-27T18:25:03Z","receivedAt":"2015-04-27T18:25:03Z","isPatch":true,"sender":{"key":"gitster@pobox.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/54884?v=4"},"body":"Matthieu Moy writes:\n\n> Junio C Hamano writes:\n>\n>>> --- a/contrib/hooks/multimail/README.Git\n>>> +++ b/contrib/hooks/multimail/README.Git\n>>> @@ -3,13 +3,13 @@ section of the Git project as a convenience to Git users.\n>>> git-multimail is developed as an independent project at the following\n>>> website:\n>>> \n>>> - https://github.com/mhagger/git-multimail\n>>> + https://github.com/git-multimail/git-multimail\n>>> \n>>> The version in this directory was obtained from the upstream project\n>>> -on 2014-04-07 and consists of the \"git-multimail\" subdirectory from\n>>> +on 2015-04-27 and consists of the \"git-multimail\" subdirectory from\n>>> revision\n>>> \n>>> - 1b32653bafc4f902535b9fc1cd9cae911325b870\n>>> + 8c3aaafa873bf10de8dddf1d202c449b3eff3b42 refs/tags/1.0.2\n>>\n>> Huh, really?\n>\n> What's the problem with this hunk? I just checked, and the tag is there,\n> with the right sha1.\n\nThe patch is to apply to a file in my tree, so \"The version in this\ndirectory\" is \"contrib/hooks/multimail/git_multimail.py\" in my tree.\n\nWas that obtained from the upstream project (i.e. you) and match\nyour 1.0.2 tag?\n\n$ git rev-list -1 master contrib/hooks/multimail/\nb513f71f6043c05c3918e670b332dfa7ec6b2661\n\nwhich is b513f71f (git-multimail: update to version 1.0.0,\n2014-04-07)\n"},{"id":"260070","messageId":"vpqh9s1s9by.fsf@anie.imag.fr","threadId":"39166","inReplyTo":"xmqqoam9whs0.fsf@gitster.dls.corp.google.com","subject":"Re: [PATCH] Update git-multimail to version 1.0.2","fromName":"Matthieu Moy","fromEmail":"matthieu.moy@grenoble-inp.fr","sentAt":"2015-04-27T18:41:05Z","receivedAt":"2015-04-27T18:41:05Z","isPatch":true,"sender":{"key":"matthieu.moy@grenoble-inp.fr","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/72c8a2705971a25dfaff23cece15130d405685845d911aedd5667ace277f3fc5?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"Junio C Hamano writes:\n\n> Matthieu Moy writes:\n>\n>> Junio C Hamano writes:\n>>\n>>>> --- a/contrib/hooks/multimail/README.Git\n>>>> +++ b/contrib/hooks/multimail/README.Git\n>>>> @@ -3,13 +3,13 @@ section of the Git project as a convenience to Git users.\n>>>> git-multimail is developed as an independent project at the following\n>>>> website:\n>>>> \n>>>> - https://github.com/mhagger/git-multimail\n>>>> + https://github.com/git-multimail/git-multimail\n>>>> \n>>>> The version in this directory was obtained from the upstream project\n>>>> -on 2014-04-07 and consists of the \"git-multimail\" subdirectory from\n>>>> +on 2015-04-27 and consists of the \"git-multimail\" subdirectory from\n>>>> revision\n>>>> \n>>>> - 1b32653bafc4f902535b9fc1cd9cae911325b870\n>>>> + 8c3aaafa873bf10de8dddf1d202c449b3eff3b42 refs/tags/1.0.2\n>>>\n>>> Huh, really?\n>>\n>> What's the problem with this hunk? I just checked, and the tag is there,\n>> with the right sha1.\n>\n> The patch is to apply to a file in my tree, so \"The version in this\n> directory\" is \"contrib/hooks/multimail/git_multimail.py\" in my tree.\n>\n> Was that obtained from the upstream project (i.e. you) and match\n> your 1.0.2 tag?\n\nYes. Isn't that what the text above says?\n\n-- \nMatthieu Moy\nhttp://www-verimag.imag.fr/~moy/\n"},{"id":"260071","messageId":"xmqqk2wxwgv1.fsf@gitster.dls.corp.google.com","threadId":"39166","inReplyTo":"vpqh9s1s9by.fsf@anie.imag.fr","subject":"Re: [PATCH] Update git-multimail to version 1.0.2","fromName":"Junio C Hamano","fromEmail":"gitster@pobox.com","sentAt":"2015-04-27T18:44:50Z","receivedAt":"2015-04-27T18:44:50Z","isPatch":true,"sender":{"key":"gitster@pobox.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/54884?v=4"},"body":"Matthieu Moy writes:\n\n> Junio C Hamano writes:\n>\n>> Matthieu Moy writes:\n>>\n>>> Junio C Hamano writes:\n>>>\n>>>>> --- a/contrib/hooks/multimail/README.Git\n>>>>> +++ b/contrib/hooks/multimail/README.Git\n>>>>> @@ -3,13 +3,13 @@ section of the Git project as a convenience to Git users.\n>>>>> git-multimail is developed as an independent project at the following\n>>>>> website:\n>>>>> \n>>>>> - https://github.com/mhagger/git-multimail\n>>>>> + https://github.com/git-multimail/git-multimail\n>>>>> \n>>>>> The version in this directory was obtained from the upstream project\n>>>>> -on 2014-04-07 and consists of the \"git-multimail\" subdirectory from\n>>>>> +on 2015-04-27 and consists of the \"git-multimail\" subdirectory from\n>>>>> revision\n>>>>> \n>>>>> - 1b32653bafc4f902535b9fc1cd9cae911325b870\n>>>>> + 8c3aaafa873bf10de8dddf1d202c449b3eff3b42 refs/tags/1.0.2\n>>>>\n>>>> Huh, really?\n>>>\n>>> What's the problem with this hunk? I just checked, and the tag is there,\n>>> with the right sha1.\n>>\n>> The patch is to apply to a file in my tree, so \"The version in this\n>> directory\" is \"contrib/hooks/multimail/git_multimail.py\" in my tree.\n>>\n>> Was that obtained from the upstream project (i.e. you) and match\n>> your 1.0.2 tag?\n>\n> Yes. Isn't that what the text above says?\n\nWell, the patch does not update git_multimail.py at all. Requoting\nthe part you omitted from my response\n\n $ git rev-list -1 master contrib/hooks/multimail/\n b513f71f6043c05c3918e670b332dfa7ec6b2661\n\n which is b513f71f (git-multimail: update to version 1.0.0,\n 2014-04-07)\n\nit matches what \"was obtained from the upstream project on\n2014-04-07\".\n\nOr did you forget to include the update to the software in the\npatch?\n"},{"id":"260072","messageId":"vpq618hqu5d.fsf@anie.imag.fr","threadId":"39166","inReplyTo":"xmqqk2wxwgv1.fsf@gitster.dls.corp.google.com","subject":"Re: [PATCH] Update git-multimail to version 1.0.2","fromName":"Matthieu Moy","fromEmail":"matthieu.moy@grenoble-inp.fr","sentAt":"2015-04-27T18:54:22Z","receivedAt":"2015-04-27T18:54:22Z","isPatch":true,"sender":{"key":"matthieu.moy@grenoble-inp.fr","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/72c8a2705971a25dfaff23cece15130d405685845d911aedd5667ace277f3fc5?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"Junio C Hamano writes:\n\n> Matthieu Moy writes:\n>\n>> Junio C Hamano writes:\n>>\n>>> Was that obtained from the upstream project (i.e. you) and match\n>>> your 1.0.2 tag?\n>>\n>> Yes. Isn't that what the text above says?\n>\n> Well, the patch does not update git_multimail.py at all. Requoting\n> the part you omitted from my response\n>\n> $ git rev-list -1 master contrib/hooks/multimail/\n> b513f71f6043c05c3918e670b332dfa7ec6b2661\n>\n> which is b513f71f (git-multimail: update to version 1.0.0,\n> 2014-04-07)\n>\n> it matches what \"was obtained from the upstream project on\n> 2014-04-07\".\n\nYes, but it also matches \"was obtained on 2015-04-27\", since only the\nREADME has changed (the commit message of this patch says: \"The only\nchanges are to the README files, most notably the list of maintainers\nand the project URL.\").\n\n> Or did you forget to include the update to the software in the\n> patch?\n\nThe update to the software is empty.\n\n-- \nMatthieu Moy\nhttp://www-verimag.imag.fr/~moy/\n"},{"id":"260075","messageId":"xmqqfv7lwfvx.fsf@gitster.dls.corp.google.com","threadId":"39166","inReplyTo":"vpq618hqu5d.fsf@anie.imag.fr","subject":"Re: [PATCH] Update git-multimail to version 1.0.2","fromName":"Junio C Hamano","fromEmail":"gitster@pobox.com","sentAt":"2015-04-27T19:05:54Z","receivedAt":"2015-04-27T19:05:54Z","isPatch":true,"sender":{"key":"gitster@pobox.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/54884?v=4"},"body":"Matthieu Moy writes:\n\n> Junio C Hamano writes:\n>\n>> Matthieu Moy writes:\n>>\n>>> Junio C Hamano writes:\n>>>\n>>>> Was that obtained from the upstream project (i.e. you) and match\n>>>> your 1.0.2 tag?\n>>>\n>>> Yes. Isn't that what the text above says?\n>>\n>> Well, the patch does not update git_multimail.py at all. Requoting\n>> the part you omitted from my response\n>>\n>> $ git rev-list -1 master contrib/hooks/multimail/\n>> b513f71f6043c05c3918e670b332dfa7ec6b2661\n>>\n>> which is b513f71f (git-multimail: update to version 1.0.0,\n>> 2014-04-07)\n>>\n>> it matches what \"was obtained from the upstream project on\n>> 2014-04-07\".\n>\n> Yes, but it also matches \"was obtained on 2015-04-27\", since only the\n> README has changed (the commit message of this patch says: \"The only\n> changes are to the README files, most notably the list of maintainers\n> and the project URL.\").\n>\n>> Or did you forget to include the update to the software in the\n>> patch?\n>\n> The update to the software is empty.\n\nHmm, that may be technically correct but it is grossly misleading to\nupdate the existing \"was obtained on 2014-04-07\" to \"was obtained on\n2015-04-27\", especially if nothing was actually obtained, isn't it?\nI honestly am surprised that, after seeing the announcement about \"a\nnew repository, co-maintainer and multiple contributors\", no code\nchange is made over the past 12 months.\n\nI would understand it if the description were \"The version in this\ndirectory matches the upstream project as of 2015-04-27\", though.\n"},{"id":"260076","messageId":"vpqa8xtpedc.fsf@anie.imag.fr","threadId":"39166","inReplyTo":"xmqqfv7lwfvx.fsf@gitster.dls.corp.google.com","subject":"Re: [PATCH] Update git-multimail to version 1.0.2","fromName":"Matthieu Moy","fromEmail":"matthieu.moy@grenoble-inp.fr","sentAt":"2015-04-27T19:20:31Z","receivedAt":"2015-04-27T19:20:31Z","isPatch":true,"sender":{"key":"matthieu.moy@grenoble-inp.fr","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/72c8a2705971a25dfaff23cece15130d405685845d911aedd5667ace277f3fc5?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"Junio C Hamano writes:\n\n> Hmm, that may be technically correct but it is grossly misleading to\n> update the existing \"was obtained on 2014-04-07\" to \"was obtained on\n> 2015-04-27\", especially if nothing was actually obtained, isn't it?\n\nThat is because you're looking at the patch. The intended audience are\npeople reading the README.Git file, and the text reads just fine then.\n\n> I honestly am surprised that, after seeing the announcement about \"a\n> new repository, co-maintainer and multiple contributors\", no code\n> change is made over the past 12 months.\n\nThat is the point indeed. Michael does not use git-multimail himself,\nand does not find time to work on it. I'm joining the effort, but\ncurrently have no time either. But eventually I'll go through the list\nof pending pull-requests, and we'll actually get new code.\n\n-- \nMatthieu Moy\nhttp://www-verimag.imag.fr/~moy/\n"},{"id":"260084","messageId":"553E9671.3000902@alum.mit.edu","threadId":"39166","inReplyTo":"xmqqfv7lwfvx.fsf@gitster.dls.corp.google.com","subject":"Re: [PATCH] Update git-multimail to version 1.0.2","fromName":"Michael Haggerty","fromEmail":"mhagger@alum.mit.edu","sentAt":"2015-04-27T20:05:05Z","receivedAt":"2015-04-27T20:05:05Z","isPatch":true,"sender":{"key":"mhagger@alum.mit.edu","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/119718?v=4"},"body":"On 04/27/2015 09:05 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote:\n> Matthieu Moy writes:\n> \n>> Junio C Hamano writes:\n>> [...]\n>>> Well, the patch does not update git_multimail.py at all. Requoting\n>>> the part you omitted from my response\n>>>\n>>> $ git rev-list -1 master contrib/hooks/multimail/\n>>> b513f71f6043c05c3918e670b332dfa7ec6b2661\n>>>\n>>> which is b513f71f (git-multimail: update to version 1.0.0,\n>>> 2014-04-07)\n>>>\n>>> it matches what \"was obtained from the upstream project on\n>>> 2014-04-07\".\n>>\n>> Yes, but it also matches \"was obtained on 2015-04-27\", since only the\n>> README has changed (the commit message of this patch says: \"The only\n>> changes are to the README files, most notably the list of maintainers\n>> and the project URL.\").\n>>\n>>> Or did you forget to include the update to the software in the\n>>> patch?\n>>\n>> The update to the software is empty.\n> \n> Hmm, that may be technically correct but it is grossly misleading to\n> update the existing \"was obtained on 2014-04-07\" to \"was obtained on\n> 2015-04-27\", especially if nothing was actually obtained, isn't it?\n\nI'm sorry to have caused confusion. Matthieu, your explanations have\nbeen exactly correct. Let me just add a couple of details:\n\nJunio, you asked me (off-list) for an update to README and README.Git.\nThose two files come from the git-multimail repo, as\ngit-multimail/README and git-multimail/README.Git.template,\nrespectively, so I modified the files in our repo then submitted the\ncorresponding patch to your repo.\n\nIt's true that only documentation changes are in the patch, but it still\nseemed like good practice to create a tag and all that. If nothing else,\nit will make it easier to figure out the baseline for future code drops.\n\nThere have been a couple of small software changes in git-multimail's\nmaster branch, but I didn't include those in the patch I submitted to\nyou because I thought you wouldn't want to have code changes so close to\nthe release. So 1.0.2 is on the newly-created \"maint\" branch.\n\n> I honestly am surprised that, after seeing the announcement about \"a\n> new repository, co-maintainer and multiple contributors\", no code\n> change is made over the past 12 months.\n\nI totally understand your disappointment. Mea culpa. That, in fact, is\nWHY I'm so happy that Matthieu has agreed to help maintain the project.\nIf it's any consolation, none of the user feedback that I have been so\nremiss in addressing involves serious or security-related bugs.\n\n> I would understand it if the description were \"The version in this\n> directory matches the upstream project as of 2015-04-27\", though.\n\nI think of the contents of contrib/hooks/multimail as a whole, so even\nif the software hasn't changed, updated documentation *has* been\n\"obtained\" from upstream. But feel free to adjust the text in whatever\nway you like.\n\nMichael\n\n-- \nMichael Haggerty\nmhagger@alum.mit.edu\n"},{"id":"260109","messageId":"xmqqfv7kvhwd.fsf@gitster.dls.corp.google.com","threadId":"39166","inReplyTo":"553E9671.3000902@alum.mit.edu","subject":"Re: [PATCH] Update git-multimail to version 1.0.2","fromName":"Junio C Hamano","fromEmail":"gitster@pobox.com","sentAt":"2015-04-28T07:20:02Z","receivedAt":"2015-04-28T07:20:02Z","isPatch":true,"sender":{"key":"gitster@pobox.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/54884?v=4"},"body":"Michael Haggerty writes:\n\n> On 04/27/2015 09:05 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote:\n> ...\n>> Hmm, that may be technically correct but it is grossly misleading to\n>> update the existing \"was obtained on 2014-04-07\" to \"was obtained on\n>> 2015-04-27\", especially if nothing was actually obtained, isn't it?\n> ...\n> It's true that only documentation changes are in the patch, but it still\n> seemed like good practice to create a tag and all that. If nothing else,\n> it will make it easier to figure out the baseline for future code drops.\n\nOh, there is no question about that ;-)\n\n> There have been a couple of small software changes in git-multimail's\n> master branch, but I didn't include those in the patch I submitted to\n> you because I thought you wouldn't want to have code changes so close to\n> the release. So 1.0.2 is on the newly-created \"maint\" branch.\n\nOK.\n\n>> I honestly am surprised that, after seeing the announcement about \"a\n>> new repository, co-maintainer and multiple contributors\", no code\n>> change is made over the past 12 months.\n>\n> I totally understand your disappointment. Mea culpa.\n\nI am not *disappointed* at all. No recent changes do not\nautomatically mean abandoned software---it may be a sign of\nstability. I was just *surprised*.\n\nAfter all, 1.0.2 tag will hopefully soon become stale, and people\nhave to go to the upstream to see what the latest version is called\nanyway, instead of looking at my tree. So the primary value of\nhaving a copy in my tree is (1) to have the URL for the true\nupstream and (2) to have a working version that is not too stale.\nSo from that point of view, a patch without the update to the\nversion numbers or datestamps, i.e. just changes the URLs and\nupdates who to contact, would have been more truthful, unless it\nalso updated the code.\n\nIt was just that the update changed \"the last obtained date\" without\nchanging anything of substance that was \"obtained\" (because there\nwasn't anything new to be obtained) and that looked unexpected and\nsurprised me. That's all.\n"}]}