{"thread":{"id":"34847","subject":"German translation errors","startedAt":"2013-09-04T06:24:49Z","lastAt":"2013-09-04T18:14:31Z","messageCount":4,"participants":["Dirk Heinrichs","Ralf Thielow"],"isPatch":false,"patchVersion":null,"patchTotal":null},"messages":[{"id":"226700","messageId":"2896292.CgjyIcF3NN@moria","threadId":"34847","inReplyTo":null,"subject":"German translation errors","fromName":"Dirk Heinrichs","fromEmail":"dirk.heinrichs@altum.de","sentAt":"2013-09-04T06:24:49Z","receivedAt":"2013-09-04T06:24:49Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"dirk.heinrichs@altum.de","avatar":null},"body":"Hi,\n\nwhen I fetch from remote repositories, git tells me about new branches and \ntags by saying \"[neuer Branch]\" or \"[neuer Tag]\". While \"Branch\" translates to \n\"Zweig\" in german, the german word \"Tag\" actually means \"day\", so git is \ntelling me something about a \"new day\" for every new tag. Should be \"neue \nMarke\".\n\nThanks...\n\n\tDirk\n-- \nDirk Heinrichs \nTel: +49 (0)2471 209385 | Mobil: +49 (0)176 34473913\nGPG Public Key C2E467BB | Jabber: dirk.heinrichs@altum.de\n"},{"id":"226722","messageId":"CAN0XMOJn7_c51G=peUKJzNqkQpWu7JQ8Uv2TB+hpvUO1ztPEPw@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"34847","inReplyTo":"2896292.CgjyIcF3NN@moria","subject":"Re: German translation errors","fromName":"Ralf Thielow","fromEmail":"ralf.thielow@gmail.com","sentAt":"2013-09-04T11:11:39Z","receivedAt":"2013-09-04T11:11:39Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"ralf.thielow@gmail.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/1275832?v=4"},"body":"Hi,\n\nthis is not an error but intention. From Git 1.8.4, the German translation\nswitches from pure German to German+English. For me the most important\nreasons for that are that terms like \"Branch\" and \"Tag\" are well-known SCM/Git\nterms for many German people, and using \"Zweig\" and \"Marke\" could be more\nconfusing than just use the english words. It's not just these two\nwords, but also\nterms like \"remote-tracking\", \"index\" and some such. The second reason is to get\ncloser to books. The books I know do not translate Git/SCM terms, e.g. the\nPro Git book [1] and also books you can buy on a store. I think it's better to\nread the same terms in Git messages as you read in books.\n\nRalf\n\n[1]\nhttp://git-scm.com/book/de\n\nOn Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 8:24 AM, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:\n> Hi,\n>\n> when I fetch from remote repositories, git tells me about new branches and\n> tags by saying \"[neuer Branch]\" or \"[neuer Tag]\". While \"Branch\" translates to\n> \"Zweig\" in german, the german word \"Tag\" actually means \"day\", so git is\n> telling me something about a \"new day\" for every new tag. Should be \"neue\n> Marke\".\n>\n> Thanks...\n>\n> Dirk\n> --\n> Dirk Heinrichs \n> Tel: +49 (0)2471 209385 | Mobil: +49 (0)176 34473913\n> GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Jabber: dirk.heinrichs@altum.de\n"},{"id":"226727","messageId":"2330938.lTaCDyZdrQ@gondor","threadId":"34847","inReplyTo":"CAN0XMOJn7_c51G=peUKJzNqkQpWu7JQ8Uv2TB+hpvUO1ztPEPw@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: German translation errors","fromName":"Dirk Heinrichs","fromEmail":"dirk.heinrichs@altum.de","sentAt":"2013-09-04T13:20:11Z","receivedAt":"2013-09-04T13:20:11Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"dirk.heinrichs@altum.de","avatar":null},"body":"Am Mittwoch, 4. September 2013, 13:11:39 schrieben Sie:\n\n> this is not an error but intention. From Git 1.8.4, the German translation\n> switches from pure German to German+English. For me the most important\n> reasons for that are that terms like \"Branch\" and \"Tag\" are well-known\n> SCM/Git terms for many German people, and using \"Zweig\" and \"Marke\" could\n> be more confusing than just use the english words.\n\nAh, OK. I must admit I also use the english words in day-to-day (german) \nconversations. However, in case of tags, when spoken, you have the ability to \npronounce tag differently (long \"a\" when you mean day, short \"a\" for a git \ntag), which is not the case in a written conversation. How about using \"neues \nTag\" instead of \"neuer Tag\"?\n\nBye...\n\n\tDirk\n--\nDirk Heinrichs \nTel: +49 (0)2471 209385 | Mobil: +49 (0)176 34473913\nGPG Public Key C2E467BB | Jabber: dirk.heinrichs@altum.de\n"},{"id":"226745","messageId":"CAN0XMOJ=Mxxq03Oitkhhr63mtu-XvqM30YVNscfPrqH8mYo8mg@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"34847","inReplyTo":"2330938.lTaCDyZdrQ@gondor","subject":"Re: German translation errors","fromName":"Ralf Thielow","fromEmail":"ralf.thielow@gmail.com","sentAt":"2013-09-04T18:14:31Z","receivedAt":"2013-09-04T18:14:31Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"ralf.thielow@gmail.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/1275832?v=4"},"body":"On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:\n> Am Mittwoch, 4. September 2013, 13:11:39 schrieben Sie:\n>\n>> this is not an error but intention. From Git 1.8.4, the German translation\n>> switches from pure German to German+English. For me the most important\n>> reasons for that are that terms like \"Branch\" and \"Tag\" are well-known\n>> SCM/Git terms for many German people, and using \"Zweig\" and \"Marke\" could\n>> be more confusing than just use the english words.\n>\n> Ah, OK. I must admit I also use the english words in day-to-day (german)\n> conversations. However, in case of tags, when spoken, you have the ability to\n> pronounce tag differently (long \"a\" when you mean day, short \"a\" for a git\n> tag), which is not the case in a written conversation. How about using \"neues\n> Tag\" instead of \"neuer Tag\"?\n>\n\nI've looked at books and blogs to see what others use and both versions are\nused. Personally I prefer \"der Tag\" than \"das Tag\" because it feels more\nnatural to me. But I agree that using \"das Tag\" is less confusing. I'm going\nto work on a patch for this.\n\nThanks,\n\nRalf\n\n> Bye...\n>\n> Dirk\n> --\n> Dirk Heinrichs \n> Tel: +49 (0)2471 209385 | Mobil: +49 (0)176 34473913\n> GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Jabber: dirk.heinrichs@altum.de\n>\n> --\n> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line \"unsubscribe git\" in\n> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org\n> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html\n"}]}