{"thread":{"id":"31149","subject":"Centralized git","startedAt":"2012-07-31T12:03:24Z","lastAt":"2012-07-31T15:47:37Z","messageCount":6,"participants":["Javier Domingo","jaseem abid","Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason","Edward Toroshchin","Vipul Amler"],"isPatch":false,"patchVersion":null,"patchTotal":null},"messages":[{"id":"196227","messageId":"CALZVapkUu+hckMRAaNULSW5s9Q7P+78eVt1Q+ZrKFdPYb5uFVQ@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"31149","inReplyTo":"CALZVapnwGK=cKdHbZRsN0Ust7TAvFqa3AmYD7pzgoxdDxQh+uw@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Centralized git","fromName":"Javier Domingo","fromEmail":"javierdo1@gmail.com","sentAt":"2012-07-31T12:03:24Z","receivedAt":"2012-07-31T12:03:24Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"javierdo1@gmail.com","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/0f43d4d2e5f4320e8b5e1a46914213c5459dd0de261ab1587f222827f863d727?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"I know that currently that statement (Git centralized) is an oxymoron, but\nlet me explain why would it be interesting.\n\nI am currently planifying a 3D project, and I will be having large binary\nfiles. If I add a distributed VCS, the amount of disk space required will\nincrease significantly.\n\nDue to that, I started looking for an alternative VCS, such as svn, cvs.\nBut none of them satisfied me, mainly because they didn't have the branch\nconcept Git does.\n\nI read the bzr docs, and I found that was nearly what I wanted, except for\nthe branch concept git has. I am maybe explaining myself in the wrong way,\nbut I hope someone understands.\n\nWhat I would like, would be the posibility of having something like the\nhistory horizon in bzr, or the partial repos that git-annex provides. The\nidea is to have a repo with all the branches (just the head of them).\n\nAnother thing I would like to see would be being able to commit like git\nactually works. Though all the history wouldn't be available, making\ncommits offline would be a great thing, althought later, when pushing, they\nwould be just in the remote, getting erased from local.\n\nI tryed to achieve this through porcelain commands, but didn't work the few\nexamples I tryed.\n\nI know this breaks with Git's main philosophy, but that is something that\nwould be very great. For what I know, one of the bad things to deal with is\nthat the compression algorithm is thought for text files.\n\nI am looking for your answers,\n\nJavier Domingo\n"},{"id":"196232","messageId":"CAH-tXsCGxpqP+C2CiCCB88exMT6H3w0id-otFWPRXrhhreRfWg@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"31149","inReplyTo":"CALZVapkUu+hckMRAaNULSW5s9Q7P+78eVt1Q+ZrKFdPYb5uFVQ@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: Centralized git","fromName":"jaseem abid","fromEmail":"jaseemabid@gmail.com","sentAt":"2012-07-31T12:55:27Z","receivedAt":"2012-07-31T12:55:27Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"jaseemabid@gmail.com","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/8b0432c96e4d3c8a9a96c9961ee842df7b7a869744da9c25187a51a992eabd81?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Javier Domingo wrote:\n>\n> I am currently planifying a 3D project, and I will be having large binary\n> files. If I add a distributed VCS, the amount of disk space required will\n> increase significantly.\n\n\nYou are going to transfer something that wont fit into your hard disk\nup and down your network once in a while ?\n\nI assume disk to be cheaper than network.\n\n--\nJaseem Abid\nhttp://jaseemabid.github.com\n"},{"id":"196233","messageId":"CALZVapm-=HXdfb6LCrc60HgUJA0ptzb+E5r3Y1C2w_0eBo1onQ@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"31149","inReplyTo":"CALZVapniy5iNJbuOikZdgHv2qQ80nDSATw8udV=Tk2wNgxXY4w@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: Centralized git","fromName":"Javier Domingo","fromEmail":"javierdo1@gmail.com","sentAt":"2012-07-31T13:08:27Z","receivedAt":"2012-07-31T13:08:27Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"javierdo1@gmail.com","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/0f43d4d2e5f4320e8b5e1a46914213c5459dd0de261ab1587f222827f863d727?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"Network, in this case is cheaper. The thing is that If I commit\nfrecuently, will have plenty of GBs of history, that nearly for sure I\nwon't use. I just need to have other people's work to merge. But I\nwant to think in Git style, I am pretty accustomed to that way of\ndoing things. That is why I sent this mail here.\n\nThe idea is that if I modify 700MBs of video, with 20 commits I would\nget in 21GB. And making a pull would be... just even more horrible\nthan anything. That is why I need to have also last checkouts filter.\nJust download branch's HEADs.\n\nJavier Domingo\n\n\n\n2012/7/31 jaseem abid \n>\n> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Javier Domingo wrote:\n> >\n> > I am currently planifying a 3D project, and I will be having large binary\n> > files. If I add a distributed VCS, the amount of disk space required will\n> > increase significantly.\n>\n>\n> You are going to transfer something that wont fit into your hard disk\n> up and down your network once in a while ?\n>\n> I assume disk to be cheaper than network.\n>\n> --\n> Jaseem Abid\n> http://jaseemabid.github.com\n"},{"id":"196235","messageId":"CACBZZX7drB62ohpPOEs03SGe12sDmGzJDcGMboF50y9QLa6HbA@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"31149","inReplyTo":"CALZVapm-=HXdfb6LCrc60HgUJA0ptzb+E5r3Y1C2w_0eBo1onQ@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: Centralized git","fromName":"Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason","fromEmail":"avarab@gmail.com","sentAt":"2012-07-31T14:52:51Z","receivedAt":"2012-07-31T14:52:51Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"avarab@gmail.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/45301?v=4"},"body":"On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Javier Domingo wrote:\n> Network, in this case is cheaper. The thing is that If I commit\n> frecuently, will have plenty of GBs of history, that nearly for sure I\n> won't use. I just need to have other people's work to merge. But I\n> want to think in Git style, I am pretty accustomed to that way of\n> doing things. That is why I sent this mail here.\n>\n> The idea is that if I modify 700MBs of video, with 20 commits I would\n> get in 21GB. And making a pull would be... just even more horrible\n> than anything. That is why I need to have also last checkouts filter.\n> Just download branch's HEADs.\n\nYou're obviously aware of git-annex, is there any reason you can't\njust use that?\n\nThat would give you what you want, you'd have a moving window of\ncurrent files, and then you'd delete old files as they become\nun-needed.\n"},{"id":"196236","messageId":"20120731154022.GB31773@phobos.chilli.itwm.local","threadId":"31149","inReplyTo":"CALZVapkUu+hckMRAaNULSW5s9Q7P+78eVt1Q+ZrKFdPYb5uFVQ@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: Centralized git","fromName":"Edward Toroshchin","fromEmail":"edward.hades@gmail.com","sentAt":"2012-07-31T15:40:46Z","receivedAt":"2012-07-31T15:40:46Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"edward.hades@gmail.com","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/3b16efda97e0f4b6fd12c68a8030f859293ac3f2194b2c03e58b677f09499462?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"Javier,\n\nAre you sure you need git for those big binary files at all?\n\nBranching makes sense only if merging makes sense, and I can hardly see\nhow you can merge three 700-megabyte video files.\n\n-- \nEdward \"Hades\" Toroshchin\ndr_lepper on irc.freenode.org\n"},{"id":"196237","messageId":"CAKo1VjpiPEbPhHnbStduYefq1-ssJw3oPJv=bc9WxWTz0cC5Qw@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"31149","inReplyTo":"CACBZZX7drB62ohpPOEs03SGe12sDmGzJDcGMboF50y9QLa6HbA@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: Centralized git","fromName":"Vipul Amler","fromEmail":"vipulnsward@gmail.com","sentAt":"2012-07-31T15:47:37Z","receivedAt":"2012-07-31T15:47:37Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"vipulnsward@gmail.com","avatar":null},"body":"On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason\n wrote:\n> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Javier Domingo wrote:\n>> Network, in this case is cheaper. The thing is that If I commit\n>> frecuently, will have plenty of GBs of history, that nearly for sure I\n>> won't use. I just need to have other people's work to merge. But I\n>> want to think in Git style, I am pretty accustomed to that way of\n>> doing things. That is why I sent this mail here.\n>>\n>> The idea is that if I modify 700MBs of video, with 20 commits I would\n>> get in 21GB. And making a pull would be... just even more horrible\n>> than anything. That is why I need to have also last checkouts filter.\n>> Just download branch's HEADs.\n>\n> You're obviously aware of git-annex, is there any reason you can't\n> just use that?\n>\n> That would give you what you want, you'd have a moving window of\n> current files, and then you'd delete old files as they become\n> un-needed.\n\nIf there is a lot of static content, you should try git-media[1]. Its\nspecifically aimed at what you are trying to achieve.\n\n> --\n> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line \"unsubscribe git\" in\n> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org\n> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html\n\n[1] https://github.com/schacon/git-media/\n"}]}