{"thread":{"id":"31108","subject":"The GitTogether","startedAt":"2012-07-26T22:28:00Z","lastAt":"2012-09-22T18:09:09Z","messageCount":23,"participants":["Scott Chacon","Heiko Voigt","Thomas Rast","Jens Lehmann","Michael J Gruber","Patrick Renaud","Junio C Hamano","Michael Haggerty","Sebastian Schuberth","Christian Couder","Shawn Pearce","Jeff King","Luca Milanesio","Enrico Weigelt"],"isPatch":false,"patchVersion":null,"patchTotal":null},"messages":[{"id":"195900","messageId":"CAP2yMaJzJyw=9DqJzUXkkQjz_jcqB4pH=FfHFRiftC9=yC7dvg@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"31108","inReplyTo":null,"subject":"The GitTogether","fromName":"Scott Chacon","fromEmail":"schacon@gmail.com","sentAt":"2012-07-26T22:28:00Z","receivedAt":"2012-07-26T22:28:00Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"schacon@gmail.com","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/9b13a8a078e1dcf8588c4eea9554445d51ebed6c41b51f56f4d96738130b05c6?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"For the last few years, there has been a gathering of Gitty people in\nMountain View directly following the GSoC Mentor Summit that is\nreferred to as a GitTogether:\n\nhttps://git.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/GitTogether\n\nA few of us have been talking about what we would like to do this year\nand thinking about the gatherings the past few years and how we could\nget the most out of it.\n\nI would like to see two different gatherings this year - one that\nwould be user-centric to gather people that use Git together with some\nof the developers and talk about Git from a user's perspective. The\nother event I would like to see would be a gathering of many of the\ncore Git developers in a sort of hacker summit.\n\nGitHub would like to volunteer to organize and pay for these events\nthis year. I would like to hold the developer-centric one in Berlin\nin early October (a few weeks before the Mentor Summit this time) and\nthe user one in January or February of next year.\n\nThe general idea of the developer one in October would be to get 30-40\npeople who work directly on Git core, JGit and libgit2 (or closely\nrelated projects) together to discuss core issues, new features, etc.\nGitHub can help with travel and lodging for participants who need it,\nbut attendance would be limited to people actually working on Git the\nmost. Similar to some of the earlier GitTogethers.\n\nThe user conference early next year would be held in San Francisco or\nnearby and would be a chance for people using Git to share how they're\nusing it, what they would like to see, etc. I would expect to host\nfar more people at this - closer to 100, something like the last\nGitTogether.\n\nI'm working on putting together websites for the two events for\nregistration, schedule and to gather topics that should be discussed.\nI am planning on having the talks recorded and put online as well. I\nwanted to get some general feedback from the ML about what they think\nabout this plan before I finalized everything though.\n\nFor those of you who *have* been to a GitTogether, what did you find\nuseful and/or useless about it? What did you get out of it and would\nlike to see again? For those of you who have never been, what do you\nthink would be useful? I was thinking for both of them to have a\ncombination of short prepared talks, lightning/unconference style\ntalks and general discussion / breakout sessions.\n\nFinally, is there any feedback on the times and places - especially\nthe Berlin one. If nobody can agree on a better specific time, I'll\npush forward with early October in Berlin, but if there is a concensus\naround a different time, I'm fine moving it.\n\nScott\n"},{"id":"195929","messageId":"20120727061213.GA12124@book.hvoigt.net","threadId":"31108","inReplyTo":"CAP2yMaJzJyw=9DqJzUXkkQjz_jcqB4pH=FfHFRiftC9=yC7dvg@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: The GitTogether","fromName":"Heiko Voigt","fromEmail":"hvoigt@hvoigt.net","sentAt":"2012-07-27T06:12:15Z","receivedAt":"2012-07-27T06:12:15Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"hvoigt@hvoigt.net","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/184958?v=4"},"body":"Hi Scott,\n\nOn Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 03:28:00PM -0700, Scott Chacon wrote:\n> For those of you who *have* been to a GitTogether, what did you find\n> useful and/or useless about it? What did you get out of it and would\n> like to see again? For those of you who have never been, what do you\n> think would be useful? I was thinking for both of them to have a\n> combination of short prepared talks, lightning/unconference style\n> talks and general discussion / breakout sessions.\n\nIMO, the last GitTogethers had the right mixture between talks, breakout\nsessions and free space for personal discussions.\n\nThe only thing that currently comes to my mind which could improve is\nthe long physical distance between conference, accommodation and evening\ndining location. Shorter distances could probably be achieved more\neasily in Berlin.\n\nThe most important thing for me were the direct discussions with other\ndevelopers.\n\n> Finally, is there any feedback on the times and places - especially\n> the Berlin one. If nobody can agree on a better specific time, I'll\n> push forward with early October in Berlin, but if there is a concensus\n> around a different time, I'm fine moving it.\n\nI like the Berlin idea. I did not plan to attend the GitTogether this\nyear but if it was in Berlin I would do so. Maybe this is similar for\nothers that are not able to make the long way to Mountain View.\n\nCheers Heiko\n"},{"id":"195939","messageId":"87k3xpe8bz.fsf@thomas.inf.ethz.ch","threadId":"31108","inReplyTo":"CAP2yMaJzJyw=9DqJzUXkkQjz_jcqB4pH=FfHFRiftC9=yC7dvg@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: The GitTogether","fromName":"Thomas Rast","fromEmail":"trast@student.ethz.ch","sentAt":"2012-07-27T11:45:20Z","receivedAt":"2012-07-27T11:45:20Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"tr@thomasrast.ch","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/153510?v=4"},"body":"Scott Chacon writes:\n\n> GitHub would like to volunteer to organize and pay for these events\n> this year. I would like to hold the developer-centric one in Berlin\n> in early October\n\nYay, Berlin! I would be glad to join there; I would probably not have\nthe time and resources to travel to SF this year.\n\n> For those of you who *have* been to a GitTogether, what did you find\n> useful and/or useless about it? What did you get out of it and would\n> like to see again? For those of you who have never been, what do you\n> think would be useful? I was thinking for both of them to have a\n> combination of short prepared talks, lightning/unconference style\n> talks and general discussion / breakout sessions.\n\nI was at the 2010 GitTogether in Mountain View. I really liked the\nunconference format, and the way Shawn and Junio used it: just using the\ntopic stickers as a sort of todo-list, not actually fixing any schedule\nin advance. Oddly enough we also managed to avoid the usual consequence\nof open-ended discussions: getting stuck endlessly on an absolutely\ninsignificant point.\n\nI think the discussions were very productive. I would love to do more\nhacking than we managed in 2010, but I realize that this is not possible\nif we just meet for 2-3 days. Perhaps one option would be to plan for\n1-2 days of hacking after the discussion rounds, so that the interested\npeople can stay a bit longer?\n\n-- \nThomas Rast\ntrast@{inf,student}.ethz.ch\n"},{"id":"196069","messageId":"50155CD9.6060702@web.de","threadId":"31108","inReplyTo":"87k3xpe8bz.fsf@thomas.inf.ethz.ch","subject":"Re: The GitTogether","fromName":"Jens Lehmann","fromEmail":"jens.lehmann@web.de","sentAt":"2012-07-29T15:55:05Z","receivedAt":"2012-07-29T15:55:05Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"jens.lehmann@web.de","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/135220?v=4"},"body":"Am 27.07.2012 13:45, schrieb Thomas Rast:\n> Scott Chacon writes:\n> \n>> GitHub would like to volunteer to organize and pay for these events\n>> this year. I would like to hold the developer-centric one in Berlin\n>> in early October\n> \n> Yay, Berlin! I would be glad to join there; I would probably not have\n> the time and resources to travel to SF this year.\n\nSame here.\n\n>> For those of you who *have* been to a GitTogether, what did you find\n>> useful and/or useless about it? What did you get out of it and would\n>> like to see again? For those of you who have never been, what do you\n>> think would be useful? I was thinking for both of them to have a\n>> combination of short prepared talks, lightning/unconference style\n>> talks and general discussion / breakout sessions.\n> \n> I was at the 2010 GitTogether in Mountain View. I really liked the\n> unconference format, and the way Shawn and Junio used it: just using the\n> topic stickers as a sort of todo-list, not actually fixing any schedule\n> in advance. Oddly enough we also managed to avoid the usual consequence\n> of open-ended discussions: getting stuck endlessly on an absolutely\n> insignificant point.\n\nYup, the unconference format with both common and breakout sessions\nworked really well.\n\n> I think the discussions were very productive. I would love to do more\n> hacking than we managed in 2010, but I realize that this is not possible\n> if we just meet for 2-3 days. Perhaps one option would be to plan for\n> 1-2 days of hacking after the discussion rounds, so that the interested\n> people can stay a bit longer?\n\nI really like that idea and would vote for 3-4 days (maybe including a\nweekend for those of us who have to take a leave from work ;-).\n"},{"id":"196122","messageId":"5016894C.7020907@drmicha.warpmail.net","threadId":"31108","inReplyTo":"50155CD9.6060702@web.de","subject":"Re: The GitTogether","fromName":"Michael J Gruber","fromEmail":"git@drmicha.warpmail.net","sentAt":"2012-07-30T13:17:00Z","receivedAt":"2012-07-30T13:17:00Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"git@grubix.eu","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/233215?v=4"},"body":"Jens Lehmann venit, vidit, dixit 29.07.2012 17:55:\n> Am 27.07.2012 13:45, schrieb Thomas Rast:\n>> Scott Chacon writes:\n>>\n>>> GitHub would like to volunteer to organize and pay for these events\n>>> this year. I would like to hold the developer-centric one in Berlin\n>>> in early October\n\nWinter term classes start 10/15. Before 10/15 it will be easier to book\nuniversity rooms if we need that.\n\n>>\n>> Yay, Berlin! I would be glad to join there; I would probably not have\n>> the time and resources to travel to SF this year.\n> \n> Same here.\n\nSame.\n\nDo we have contacts regarding (un)conference rooms in Berlin already? I\nmight be able to ask around.\n\n> \n>>> For those of you who *have* been to a GitTogether, what did you find\n>>> useful and/or useless about it? What did you get out of it and would\n>>> like to see again? For those of you who have never been, what do you\n>>> think would be useful? I was thinking for both of them to have a\n>>> combination of short prepared talks, lightning/unconference style\n>>> talks and general discussion / breakout sessions.\n>>\n>> I was at the 2010 GitTogether in Mountain View. I really liked the\n>> unconference format, and the way Shawn and Junio used it: just using the\n>> topic stickers as a sort of todo-list, not actually fixing any schedule\n>> in advance. Oddly enough we also managed to avoid the usual consequence\n>> of open-ended discussions: getting stuck endlessly on an absolutely\n>> insignificant point.\n> \n> Yup, the unconference format with both common and breakout sessions\n> worked really well.\n> \n>> I think the discussions were very productive. I would love to do more\n>> hacking than we managed in 2010, but I realize that this is not possible\n>> if we just meet for 2-3 days. Perhaps one option would be to plan for\n>> 1-2 days of hacking after the discussion rounds, so that the interested\n>> people can stay a bit longer?\n> \n> I really like that idea and would vote for 3-4 days (maybe including a\n> weekend for those of us who have to take a leave from work ;-).\n> \n"},{"id":"196740","messageId":"5023E77E.4020604@drmicha.warpmail.net","threadId":"31108","inReplyTo":"5016894C.7020907@drmicha.warpmail.net","subject":"Re: The GitTogether","fromName":"Michael J Gruber","fromEmail":"git@drmicha.warpmail.net","sentAt":"2012-08-09T16:38:22Z","receivedAt":"2012-08-09T16:38:22Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"git@grubix.eu","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/233215?v=4"},"body":"Michael J Gruber venit, vidit, dixit 30.07.2012 15:17:\n> Jens Lehmann venit, vidit, dixit 29.07.2012 17:55:\n>> Am 27.07.2012 13:45, schrieb Thomas Rast:\n>>> Scott Chacon writes:\n>>>\n>>>> GitHub would like to volunteer to organize and pay for these events\n>>>> this year. I would like to hold the developer-centric one in Berlin\n>>>> in early October\n> \n> Winter term classes start 10/15. Before 10/15 it will be easier to book\n> university rooms if we need that.\n> \n>>>\n>>> Yay, Berlin! I would be glad to join there; I would probably not have\n>>> the time and resources to travel to SF this year.\n>>\n>> Same here.\n> \n> Same.\n> \n> Do we have contacts regarding (un)conference rooms in Berlin already? I\n> might be able to ask around.\n> \n>>\n>>>> For those of you who *have* been to a GitTogether, what did you find\n>>>> useful and/or useless about it? What did you get out of it and would\n>>>> like to see again? For those of you who have never been, what do you\n>>>> think would be useful? I was thinking for both of them to have a\n>>>> combination of short prepared talks, lightning/unconference style\n>>>> talks and general discussion / breakout sessions.\n>>>\n>>> I was at the 2010 GitTogether in Mountain View. I really liked the\n>>> unconference format, and the way Shawn and Junio used it: just using the\n>>> topic stickers as a sort of todo-list, not actually fixing any schedule\n>>> in advance. Oddly enough we also managed to avoid the usual consequence\n>>> of open-ended discussions: getting stuck endlessly on an absolutely\n>>> insignificant point.\n>>\n>> Yup, the unconference format with both common and breakout sessions\n>> worked really well.\n>>\n>>> I think the discussions were very productive. I would love to do more\n>>> hacking than we managed in 2010, but I realize that this is not possible\n>>> if we just meet for 2-3 days. Perhaps one option would be to plan for\n>>> 1-2 days of hacking after the discussion rounds, so that the interested\n>>> people can stay a bit longer?\n>>\n>> I really like that idea and would vote for 3-4 days (maybe including a\n>> weekend for those of us who have to take a leave from work ;-).\n\nWhile the unconference format is successful, may I suggest a\ntrack/topic: Especially if there's GitHub support and participation this\nwould be a good opportunity to discuss some GitHub specific issues in\nperson rather than via the list or support tickets. Two come to my mind:\n\n1) GitHub for Git developers: I certainly don't suggest a change in\nworkflow for git.git, but you often hear Git developers say \"we can't do\nthis or that on GitHub\", and I think GitHub (and other projects using\nGitHub) could benefit from the specific point of view and input of Git\ndevelopers to improve workflow support on GitHub.\n\n2) git-scm.com: The old Git website and wiki certainly did not quite\nmeet GitHub's demands (e.g. reliability, looks), and git-scm.com\ncertainly does not quite meet the/all Git developers demands (e.g. list\ndiscussion based decisions and actions, separation between the \"free\nproject\" and \"business related content). In person it may be easier to\nfind a way forward which benefits all parts of the large and undefined\n\"Git community\".\n\nCheers,\nMichael\n"},{"id":"196792","messageId":"CAC+LNEQB-B5L2CV2pONsOyD-VE4SW36c9SKxdOcYGBQbA-d4hQ@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"31108","inReplyTo":"5023E77E.4020604@drmicha.warpmail.net","subject":"Re: The GitTogether","fromName":"Patrick Renaud","fromEmail":"prenaud76@gmail.com","sentAt":"2012-08-10T14:42:50Z","receivedAt":"2012-08-10T14:42:50Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"prenaud76@gmail.com","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/1ba022ae72dfaa4620fe1051719ddd4cd353b7a6bdc2da56bf7fc9d48f01043c?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"Hi,\n\nI am not sure to understand why having two physically disconnected\nevents, in time and in place. Personally I'd rather see one event,\nmaybe longer than the previous occurrences to accommodate for the user\nand developer centric topics. Along this line, maybe it would be best\nto begin the event with the user-centric topics for a couple of days\nand then continue with a few more days for the core developers to\ndiscuss how to implement the features highlighted by the user\ncommunity, as well as other topics of interest for core devs. The\nusers could decide to join the rest of the event and listen-in the\ncore dev topics, or go back home.\n\nSadly, I am not a core dev. However I do appreciate the close contact\nthe GitTogether event so far gave to development concerns. From a\nuser's standpoint being exposed to that was an eye opener, something\nthat is impossible when dealing with a proprietary solution provider.\nUnder the new proposed approach I am afraid that we would start seeing\nthe beginning of a formal separation between Git users: devs vs users.\nAnd I would bet that core devs would stop showing up at the user event\nand vice-versa, and thus create that continental divide that was so\nfar absent in the Git community, which contributes to making Git so\ngreat.\n\nScott, I believe you and I discussed this at last year's GitTogether\nand we both thought the time had come for a user event. But I am not a\nfan of making two completely disconnected events the way it is\nproposed here. And as for Berlin vs Mountain View, my vote goes to\nMountain View but I'll go wherever the event is held.\n\nOn 9 August 2012 12:38, Michael J Gruber wrote:\n> Michael J Gruber venit, vidit, dixit 30.07.2012 15:17:\n>> Jens Lehmann venit, vidit, dixit 29.07.2012 17:55:\n>>> Am 27.07.2012 13:45, schrieb Thomas Rast:\n>>>> Scott Chacon writes:\n>>>>\n>>>>> GitHub would like to volunteer to organize and pay for these events\n>>>>> this year. I would like to hold the developer-centric one in Berlin\n>>>>> in early October\n>>\n>> Winter term classes start 10/15. Before 10/15 it will be easier to book\n>> university rooms if we need that.\n>>\n>>>>\n>>>> Yay, Berlin! I would be glad to join there; I would probably not have\n>>>> the time and resources to travel to SF this year.\n>>>\n>>> Same here.\n>>\n>> Same.\n>>\n>> Do we have contacts regarding (un)conference rooms in Berlin already? I\n>> might be able to ask around.\n>>\n>>>\n>>>>> For those of you who *have* been to a GitTogether, what did you find\n>>>>> useful and/or useless about it? What did you get out of it and would\n>>>>> like to see again? For those of you who have never been, what do you\n>>>>> think would be useful? I was thinking for both of them to have a\n>>>>> combination of short prepared talks, lightning/unconference style\n>>>>> talks and general discussion / breakout sessions.\n>>>>\n>>>> I was at the 2010 GitTogether in Mountain View. I really liked the\n>>>> unconference format, and the way Shawn and Junio used it: just using the\n>>>> topic stickers as a sort of todo-list, not actually fixing any schedule\n>>>> in advance. Oddly enough we also managed to avoid the usual consequence\n>>>> of open-ended discussions: getting stuck endlessly on an absolutely\n>>>> insignificant point.\n>>>\n>>> Yup, the unconference format with both common and breakout sessions\n>>> worked really well.\n>>>\n>>>> I think the discussions were very productive. I would love to do more\n>>>> hacking than we managed in 2010, but I realize that this is not possible\n>>>> if we just meet for 2-3 days. Perhaps one option would be to plan for\n>>>> 1-2 days of hacking after the discussion rounds, so that the interested\n>>>> people can stay a bit longer?\n>>>\n>>> I really like that idea and would vote for 3-4 days (maybe including a\n>>> weekend for those of us who have to take a leave from work ;-).\n>\n> While the unconference format is successful, may I suggest a\n> track/topic: Especially if there's GitHub support and participation this\n> would be a good opportunity to discuss some GitHub specific issues in\n> person rather than via the list or support tickets. Two come to my mind:\n>\n> 1) GitHub for Git developers: I certainly don't suggest a change in\n> workflow for git.git, but you often hear Git developers say \"we can't do\n> this or that on GitHub\", and I think GitHub (and other projects using\n> GitHub) could benefit from the specific point of view and input of Git\n> developers to improve workflow support on GitHub.\n>\n> 2) git-scm.com: The old Git website and wiki certainly did not quite\n> meet GitHub's demands (e.g. reliability, looks), and git-scm.com\n> certainly does not quite meet the/all Git developers demands (e.g. list\n> discussion based decisions and actions, separation between the \"free\n> project\" and \"business related content). In person it may be easier to\n> find a way forward which benefits all parts of the large and undefined\n> \"Git community\".\n>\n> Cheers,\n> Michael\n> --\n> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line \"unsubscribe git\" in\n> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org\n> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html\n\n\n\n-- \n-Patrick\n"},{"id":"196806","messageId":"7vwr16k8ua.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org","threadId":"31108","inReplyTo":"CAC+LNEQB-B5L2CV2pONsOyD-VE4SW36c9SKxdOcYGBQbA-d4hQ@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: The GitTogether","fromName":"Junio C Hamano","fromEmail":"gitster@pobox.com","sentAt":"2012-08-10T16:30:53Z","receivedAt":"2012-08-10T16:30:53Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"gitster@pobox.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/54884?v=4"},"body":"Patrick Renaud writes:\n\n> I am not sure to understand why having two physically disconnected\n> events, in time and in place. Personally I'd rather see one event,\n> maybe longer than the previous occurrences to accommodate for the user\n> and developer centric topics.\n\nI think a separate event at a venue on different continent was\nproposed primarily to avoid \"annual GitTogether always at Mountain\nView\" that has been unfriendly to our European friends (mitigated\nsomewhat by having it immediately after GSoC mentor summit). I\nagree it may be a better solution to that issue to move the two\nthings to the same venue that moves from year to year.\n\nThe kernel folks have the (by invitation only) Kernel Summit\nimmediately before the wider end user conference at the same place,\nwhich used to be always Ottawa but the venue moves around from year\nto year these days. That is something we could learn from them.\n"},{"id":"199461","messageId":"5059CC01.2080205@alum.mit.edu","threadId":"31108","inReplyTo":"CAP2yMaJzJyw=9DqJzUXkkQjz_jcqB4pH=FfHFRiftC9=yC7dvg@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: The GitTogether","fromName":"Michael Haggerty","fromEmail":"mhagger@alum.mit.edu","sentAt":"2012-09-19T13:43:29Z","receivedAt":"2012-09-19T13:43:29Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"mhagger@alum.mit.edu","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/119718?v=4"},"body":"On 07/27/2012 12:28 AM, Scott Chacon wrote:\n> [...]\n> I would like to see two different gatherings this year - one that\n> would be user-centric to gather people that use Git together with some\n> of the developers and talk about Git from a user's perspective. The\n> other event I would like to see would be a gathering of many of the\n> core Git developers in a sort of hacker summit.\n> \n> GitHub would like to volunteer to organize and pay for these events\n> this year. I would like to hold the developer-centric one in Berlin\n> in early October (a few weeks before the Mentor Summit this time) and\n> the user one in January or February of next year.\n> [...]\n\nIs there any news about the proposed gatherings? I would be quite\ninterested in attending the developer meeting. October is just around\nthe corner...what's up?\n\nMichael\n\n-- \nMichael Haggerty\nmhagger@alum.mit.edu\nhttp://softwareswirl.blogspot.com/\n"},{"id":"199605","messageId":"505B662B.2040709@gmail.com","threadId":"31108","inReplyTo":"5059CC01.2080205@alum.mit.edu","subject":"Re: The GitTogether","fromName":"Sebastian Schuberth","fromEmail":"sschuberth@gmail.com","sentAt":"2012-09-20T18:53:31Z","receivedAt":"2012-09-20T18:53:31Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"sschuberth@gmail.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/349154?v=4"},"body":"On 19.09.2012 15:43, Michael Haggerty wrote:\n\n> Is there any news about the proposed gatherings? I would be quite\n> interested in attending the developer meeting. October is just around\n> the corner...what's up?\n\nI'm also very much interested in attending a gathering Berlin, though \npreferably not in the first week of October. As I'm a local, I could \nprobably also help with finding a location if necessary.\n\n-- \nSebastian Schuberth\n"},{"id":"199653","messageId":"CAP8UFD0KiNzfNOAaAA_y8ha6LOjzJXQP4G2hTyYfouYAUBTD0w@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"31108","inReplyTo":"505B662B.2040709@gmail.com","subject":"Re: The GitTogether","fromName":"Christian Couder","fromEmail":"christian.couder@gmail.com","sentAt":"2012-09-21T09:20:39Z","receivedAt":"2012-09-21T09:20:39Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"christian.couder@gmail.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/208954?v=4"},"body":"Hi,\n\nOn Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 8:53 PM, Sebastian Schuberth\n wrote:\n> On 19.09.2012 15:43, Michael Haggerty wrote:\n>\n>> Is there any news about the proposed gatherings? I would be quite\n>> interested in attending the developer meeting. October is just around\n>> the corner...what's up?\n>\n>\n> I'm also very much interested in attending a gathering Berlin, though\n> preferably not in the first week of October. As I'm a local, I could\n> probably also help with finding a location if necessary.\n\nIn this thread:\n\nhttps://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/repo-discuss/_MCrS4FjZak\n\nthere is a message by Shawn with the following:\n\n-------------------------------------------\n\nOn Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Luca Milanesio\n wrote:\n>\n> Does anybody have info about the next GitTogether 2012 ?\n\nGoogle is not hosting GitTogether this year. There may be a Git\ngathering in the EU sometime early next year, organized by GitHub.\n\n> (candidate dates ? place ? # of days ?)\n>\n> We should plan flights, (and possibly hackathons) in advance in order to get maximum availability :-)\n\nInstead... Google is looking into hosting a 2 day Gerrit user\nconference followed immediately by a Gerrit developer hackathon in\nearly November. Nothing concrete yet, but we are working on it, and\ntrying to make sure we have enough lead time for people to book an\naffordable flight.\n\n-------------------------------------------\n\nIt is sad that people who know what is or what is not happening are\nnot taking care of letting people on this list know about it...\n\nBest,\nChristian.\n"},{"id":"199655","messageId":"CAJo=hJtFdrFWBjg6v9ggFVSYN=_-vy6UWWW_6ay4W=E02Wqxcg@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"31108","inReplyTo":"CAP8UFD0KiNzfNOAaAA_y8ha6LOjzJXQP4G2hTyYfouYAUBTD0w@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: The GitTogether","fromName":"Shawn Pearce","fromEmail":"spearce@spearce.org","sentAt":"2012-09-21T14:05:53Z","receivedAt":"2012-09-21T14:05:53Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"spearce@spearce.org","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/34844?v=4"},"body":"On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Christian Couder\n wrote:\n> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 8:53 PM, Sebastian Schuberth\n> wrote:\n>> On 19.09.2012 15:43, Michael Haggerty wrote:\n>>\n>>> Is there any news about the proposed gatherings? I would be quite\n>>> interested in attending the developer meeting. October is just around\n>>> the corner...what's up?\n>>\n>>\n>> I'm also very much interested in attending a gathering Berlin, though\n>> preferably not in the first week of October. As I'm a local, I could\n>> probably also help with finding a location if necessary.\n>\n> In this thread:\n>\n> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/repo-discuss/_MCrS4FjZak\n>\n> there is a message by Shawn with the following:\n>\n> -------------------------------------------\n>\n> On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Luca Milanesio\n> wrote:\n>>\n>> Does anybody have info about the next GitTogether 2012 ?\n>\n> Google is not hosting GitTogether this year. There may be a Git\n> gathering in the EU sometime early next year, organized by GitHub.\n>\n>> (candidate dates ? place ? # of days ?)\n>>\n>> We should plan flights, (and possibly hackathons) in advance in order to get maximum availability :-)\n>\n> Instead... Google is looking into hosting a 2 day Gerrit user\n> conference followed immediately by a Gerrit developer hackathon in\n> early November. Nothing concrete yet, but we are working on it, and\n> trying to make sure we have enough lead time for people to book an\n> affordable flight.\n>\n> -------------------------------------------\n>\n> It is sad that people who know what is or what is not happening are\n> not taking care of letting people on this list know about it...\n\nI did not post to this mailing list about the Gerrit Code Review user\nsummit because I did not consider it to be on-topic to this list. We\ndo not normally discuss Gerrit Code Review here. Most users and\ndevelopers on this list only work on git-core (aka git.git aka the\nthing Junio maintains). Gerrit... is a different animal. :-)\n\nIf you are interested in attending, it is Saturday November 10th and\nSunday 11th in Mountain View, CA. The user summit is invite only, but\nyou may request an invitation at http://goo.gl/5HYlB.\n\n\nI have no further information about the potential GitTogether than\nanyone else. IIRC there is a suggestion in this thread about hosting\nsomething in the EU sometime in early next year, with someone at\nGitHub acting as organizer.\n\nGoogle chose to run only a Gerrit user summit this year because of the\nmix of attendees at the last GitTogether. The group was about 60-70%\nGerrit users/admins. We felt it was time to host something specific\nfor that audience.\n"},{"id":"199656","messageId":"20120921141820.GA5608@sigill.intra.peff.net","threadId":"31108","inReplyTo":"CAJo=hJtFdrFWBjg6v9ggFVSYN=_-vy6UWWW_6ay4W=E02Wqxcg@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: The GitTogether","fromName":"Jeff King","fromEmail":"peff@peff.net","sentAt":"2012-09-21T14:18:21Z","receivedAt":"2012-09-21T14:18:21Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"peff@peff.net","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/45925?v=4"},"body":"On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 07:05:53AM -0700, Shawn O. Pearce wrote:\n\n> I have no further information about the potential GitTogether than\n> anyone else. IIRC there is a suggestion in this thread about hosting\n> something in the EU sometime in early next year, with someone at\n> GitHub acting as organizer.\n\nScott Chacon was looking into it, but the last I heard he was having\ntrouble finding a good venue in Berlin in late October (a lot of places\nhe was trying were booked). I don't know there that's at; he's actually\nbeen on vacation for the past week or two, so I'm hoping to hear\nsomething soon.\n\nI'm not sure if this planning delay will bump the date back a little.\nBut nobody is talking because nobody knows yet what is going on or when,\nand something will eventually happen. I will keep poking at Scott until\nit does.\n\n-Peff\n"},{"id":"199657","messageId":"CAP2yMaK7rvzdfD2C-eaWzWq=GOPaUvu1Kv0DAzXLzdhc8ng5ow@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"31108","inReplyTo":"CAP8UFD0KiNzfNOAaAA_y8ha6LOjzJXQP4G2hTyYfouYAUBTD0w@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: The GitTogether","fromName":"Scott Chacon","fromEmail":"schacon@gmail.com","sentAt":"2012-09-21T14:19:27Z","receivedAt":"2012-09-21T14:19:27Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"schacon@gmail.com","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/9b13a8a078e1dcf8588c4eea9554445d51ebed6c41b51f56f4d96738130b05c6?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"Hey,\n\nOn Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Christian Couder\n wrote:\n>>> Is there any news about the proposed gatherings? I would be quite\n>>> interested in attending the developer meeting. October is just around\n>>> the corner...what's up?\n>>\n\nSo basically I have been trying to secure a venue that would be nice\nto do this in during October and I've had a horrible time doing it.\nI've enlisted the help of someone in Berlin now, since all the places\nI personally know and have contacted are sold out or have unreasonable\nrequirements.\n\nSince I've let it get so close to the original proposed time, I'm\ngoing to push it back until early next year and we can do two\nconferences close to each other around Feb or March - 1 in the EU\n(Berlin) and one in the US (probably in the SF Bay Area). I'll get a\nwebsite up and running with details asap so people can start planning.\n\n>> I'm also very much interested in attending a gathering Berlin, though\n>> preferably not in the first week of October. As I'm a local, I could\n>> probably also help with finding a location if necessary.\n\nIf you would like, I would love to get you in contact with the\nGitHubber in Berlin who is helping to secure a venue there so you can\nhelp.\n\nI'm sorry about the opaque communication here, I'll try to be better\nabout keeping the list up to date on what the current GitTogether\nsituation is. Right now it's moved back to early next year so\neveryone has enough time.\n\nIf people are going to be in town for the Google Mentor Summit,\nhowever, we would love to throw another drinkup in Mountain View for\nthe Git devs that are here for that, and the Gerrit guys too.\n\nScott\n"},{"id":"199659","messageId":"CAHGBnuPzb-jVqVAi+8=cSm=-mSQkVONbBaVyVf+s5L-KuBdUhg@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"31108","inReplyTo":"CAP2yMaK7rvzdfD2C-eaWzWq=GOPaUvu1Kv0DAzXLzdhc8ng5ow@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: The GitTogether","fromName":"Sebastian Schuberth","fromEmail":"sschuberth@gmail.com","sentAt":"2012-09-21T14:33:54Z","receivedAt":"2012-09-21T14:33:54Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"sschuberth@gmail.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/349154?v=4"},"body":"On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Scott Chacon wrote:\n\n>>> I'm also very much interested in attending a gathering Berlin, though\n>>> preferably not in the first week of October. As I'm a local, I could\n>>> probably also help with finding a location if necessary.\n>\n> If you would like, I would love to get you in contact with the\n> GitHubber in Berlin who is helping to secure a venue there so you can\n> help.\n\nSure, feel free to forward him / her my email address. I'm surprised\nto hear that you had so much trouble finding / booking a location. For\nexample, I would have expected one of the many co-working locations in\nBerlin [1] to be a good fit.\n\n[1] http://www.coworking.de/regions/1-berlin\n\n-- \nSebastian Schuberth\n"},{"id":"199662","messageId":"CAP8UFD0DWe3JM20PznrR5ssyf4V-RgOKF-p4K04ptXTppc3VGA@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"31108","inReplyTo":"CAJo=hJtFdrFWBjg6v9ggFVSYN=_-vy6UWWW_6ay4W=E02Wqxcg@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: The GitTogether","fromName":"Christian Couder","fromEmail":"christian.couder@gmail.com","sentAt":"2012-09-21T15:23:59Z","receivedAt":"2012-09-21T15:23:59Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"christian.couder@gmail.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/208954?v=4"},"body":"On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Shawn Pearce wrote:\n> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Christian Couder\n>\n>> It is sad that people who know what is or what is not happening are\n>> not taking care of letting people on this list know about it...\n>\n> I did not post to this mailing list about the Gerrit Code Review user\n> summit because I did not consider it to be on-topic to this list. We\n> do not normally discuss Gerrit Code Review here. Most users and\n> developers on this list only work on git-core (aka git.git aka the\n> thing Junio maintains). Gerrit... is a different animal. :-)\n\nIt would have been nice if you had said earlier on this list/thread\nthat Google chose to host a Gerrit user summit instead of the\ntraditional GitTogether.\n\n> If you are interested in attending, it is Saturday November 10th and\n> Sunday 11th in Mountain View, CA. The user summit is invite only, but\n> you may request an invitation at http://goo.gl/5HYlB.\n\nThanks for the information. I think it is indeed interesting to know about it.\n\n> I have no further information about the potential GitTogether than\n> anyone else. IIRC there is a suggestion in this thread about hosting\n> something in the EU sometime in early next year, with someone at\n> GitHub acting as organizer.\n\nBefore I posted what you wrote on the Gerrit mailing list, the only\ninformation people had on this list/thread was about a GitHub proposal\nto organize 2 different GitTogether: \"the developer-centric one in\nBerlin\nin early October (a few weeks before the Mentor Summit this time) and\nthe user one in January or February of next year.\"\n\n> Google chose to run only a Gerrit user summit this year because of the\n> mix of attendees at the last GitTogether. The group was about 60-70%\n> Gerrit users/admins. We felt it was time to host something specific\n> for that audience.\n\nGerrit users/admins are probably Git users/admins too. But anyway, it\nis ok of course for Google to organize whatever it prefers.\nI hope GitHub will do as good a job running a GitTogether as Google did.\n\nThanks,\nChristian.\n"},{"id":"199665","messageId":"CAC+LNER-ePWTBGb5H=R-9P_c+MmCF-tTsH+JMJDSNhVv9YHDSQ@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"31108","inReplyTo":"CAP8UFD0DWe3JM20PznrR5ssyf4V-RgOKF-p4K04ptXTppc3VGA@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: The GitTogether","fromName":"Patrick Renaud","fromEmail":"prenaud76@gmail.com","sentAt":"2012-09-21T16:43:44Z","receivedAt":"2012-09-21T16:43:44Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"prenaud76@gmail.com","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/1ba022ae72dfaa4620fe1051719ddd4cd353b7a6bdc2da56bf7fc9d48f01043c?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"Guys,\n\nAre we still talking of having two disconnected events for Git, one\nfor core devs and one for users?\n\n-Patrick\n\nOn 21 September 2012 11:23, Christian Couder wrote:\n> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Shawn Pearce wrote:\n>> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Christian Couder\n>>\n>>> It is sad that people who know what is or what is not happening are\n>>> not taking care of letting people on this list know about it...\n>>\n>> I did not post to this mailing list about the Gerrit Code Review user\n>> summit because I did not consider it to be on-topic to this list. We\n>> do not normally discuss Gerrit Code Review here. Most users and\n>> developers on this list only work on git-core (aka git.git aka the\n>> thing Junio maintains). Gerrit... is a different animal. :-)\n>\n> It would have been nice if you had said earlier on this list/thread\n> that Google chose to host a Gerrit user summit instead of the\n> traditional GitTogether.\n>\n>> If you are interested in attending, it is Saturday November 10th and\n>> Sunday 11th in Mountain View, CA. The user summit is invite only, but\n>> you may request an invitation at http://goo.gl/5HYlB.\n>\n> Thanks for the information. I think it is indeed interesting to know about it.\n>\n>> I have no further information about the potential GitTogether than\n>> anyone else. IIRC there is a suggestion in this thread about hosting\n>> something in the EU sometime in early next year, with someone at\n>> GitHub acting as organizer.\n>\n> Before I posted what you wrote on the Gerrit mailing list, the only\n> information people had on this list/thread was about a GitHub proposal\n> to organize 2 different GitTogether: \"the developer-centric one in\n> Berlin\n> in early October (a few weeks before the Mentor Summit this time) and\n> the user one in January or February of next year.\"\n>\n>> Google chose to run only a Gerrit user summit this year because of the\n>> mix of attendees at the last GitTogether. The group was about 60-70%\n>> Gerrit users/admins. We felt it was time to host something specific\n>> for that audience.\n>\n> Gerrit users/admins are probably Git users/admins too. But anyway, it\n> is ok of course for Google to organize whatever it prefers.\n> I hope GitHub will do as good a job running a GitTogether as Google did.\n>\n> Thanks,\n> Christian.\n"},{"id":"199666","messageId":"CAP2yMa+ikpTp8NbMUN6BU7V0d9u2xPaOcV19=pVcNZDQUceo4Q@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"31108","inReplyTo":"CAC+LNER-ePWTBGb5H=R-9P_c+MmCF-tTsH+JMJDSNhVv9YHDSQ@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: The GitTogether","fromName":"Scott Chacon","fromEmail":"schacon@gmail.com","sentAt":"2012-09-21T16:45:22Z","receivedAt":"2012-09-21T16:45:22Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"schacon@gmail.com","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/9b13a8a078e1dcf8588c4eea9554445d51ebed6c41b51f56f4d96738130b05c6?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"Actually, responding to some of the feedback I've been getting, I'm\nthinking of having a single day of just core developers and then a day\nor two of users, or vice versa, but doing them together in a single\nevent. Then just doing that same pattern in both the EU and the US.\n\nScott\n\nOn Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Patrick Renaud wrote:\n> Guys,\n>\n> Are we still talking of having two disconnected events for Git, one\n> for core devs and one for users?\n>\n> -Patrick\n>\n> On 21 September 2012 11:23, Christian Couder wrote:\n>> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Shawn Pearce wrote:\n>>> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Christian Couder\n>>>\n>>>> It is sad that people who know what is or what is not happening are\n>>>> not taking care of letting people on this list know about it...\n>>>\n>>> I did not post to this mailing list about the Gerrit Code Review user\n>>> summit because I did not consider it to be on-topic to this list. We\n>>> do not normally discuss Gerrit Code Review here. Most users and\n>>> developers on this list only work on git-core (aka git.git aka the\n>>> thing Junio maintains). Gerrit... is a different animal. :-)\n>>\n>> It would have been nice if you had said earlier on this list/thread\n>> that Google chose to host a Gerrit user summit instead of the\n>> traditional GitTogether.\n>>\n>>> If you are interested in attending, it is Saturday November 10th and\n>>> Sunday 11th in Mountain View, CA. The user summit is invite only, but\n>>> you may request an invitation at http://goo.gl/5HYlB.\n>>\n>> Thanks for the information. I think it is indeed interesting to know about it.\n>>\n>>> I have no further information about the potential GitTogether than\n>>> anyone else. IIRC there is a suggestion in this thread about hosting\n>>> something in the EU sometime in early next year, with someone at\n>>> GitHub acting as organizer.\n>>\n>> Before I posted what you wrote on the Gerrit mailing list, the only\n>> information people had on this list/thread was about a GitHub proposal\n>> to organize 2 different GitTogether: \"the developer-centric one in\n>> Berlin\n>> in early October (a few weeks before the Mentor Summit this time) and\n>> the user one in January or February of next year.\"\n>>\n>>> Google chose to run only a Gerrit user summit this year because of the\n>>> mix of attendees at the last GitTogether. The group was about 60-70%\n>>> Gerrit users/admins. We felt it was time to host something specific\n>>> for that audience.\n>>\n>> Gerrit users/admins are probably Git users/admins too. But anyway, it\n>> is ok of course for Google to organize whatever it prefers.\n>> I hope GitHub will do as good a job running a GitTogether as Google did.\n>>\n>> Thanks,\n>> Christian.\n"},{"id":"199668","messageId":"CAC+LNETz=OMegAMsYKNXNikqQ4Py=2xn0xyAbsxc0uPSt0+5sA@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"31108","inReplyTo":"CAP2yMa+ikpTp8NbMUN6BU7V0d9u2xPaOcV19=pVcNZDQUceo4Q@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: The GitTogether","fromName":"Patrick Renaud","fromEmail":"prenaud76@gmail.com","sentAt":"2012-09-21T16:55:36Z","receivedAt":"2012-09-21T16:55:36Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"prenaud76@gmail.com","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/1ba022ae72dfaa4620fe1051719ddd4cd353b7a6bdc2da56bf7fc9d48f01043c?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"THAT would be awesome :-)\n\nOn 21 September 2012 12:45, Scott Chacon wrote:\n> Actually, responding to some of the feedback I've been getting, I'm\n> thinking of having a single day of just core developers and then a day\n> or two of users, or vice versa, but doing them together in a single\n> event. Then just doing that same pattern in both the EU and the US.\n>\n> Scott\n>\n> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Patrick Renaud wrote:\n>> Guys,\n>>\n>> Are we still talking of having two disconnected events for Git, one\n>> for core devs and one for users?\n>>\n>> -Patrick\n>>\n>> On 21 September 2012 11:23, Christian Couder wrote:\n>>> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Shawn Pearce wrote:\n>>>> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Christian Couder\n>>>>\n>>>>> It is sad that people who know what is or what is not happening are\n>>>>> not taking care of letting people on this list know about it...\n>>>>\n>>>> I did not post to this mailing list about the Gerrit Code Review user\n>>>> summit because I did not consider it to be on-topic to this list. We\n>>>> do not normally discuss Gerrit Code Review here. Most users and\n>>>> developers on this list only work on git-core (aka git.git aka the\n>>>> thing Junio maintains). Gerrit... is a different animal. :-)\n>>>\n>>> It would have been nice if you had said earlier on this list/thread\n>>> that Google chose to host a Gerrit user summit instead of the\n>>> traditional GitTogether.\n>>>\n>>>> If you are interested in attending, it is Saturday November 10th and\n>>>> Sunday 11th in Mountain View, CA. The user summit is invite only, but\n>>>> you may request an invitation at http://goo.gl/5HYlB.\n>>>\n>>> Thanks for the information. I think it is indeed interesting to know about it.\n>>>\n>>>> I have no further information about the potential GitTogether than\n>>>> anyone else. IIRC there is a suggestion in this thread about hosting\n>>>> something in the EU sometime in early next year, with someone at\n>>>> GitHub acting as organizer.\n>>>\n>>> Before I posted what you wrote on the Gerrit mailing list, the only\n>>> information people had on this list/thread was about a GitHub proposal\n>>> to organize 2 different GitTogether: \"the developer-centric one in\n>>> Berlin\n>>> in early October (a few weeks before the Mentor Summit this time) and\n>>> the user one in January or February of next year.\"\n>>>\n>>>> Google chose to run only a Gerrit user summit this year because of the\n>>>> mix of attendees at the last GitTogether. The group was about 60-70%\n>>>> Gerrit users/admins. We felt it was time to host something specific\n>>>> for that audience.\n>>>\n>>> Gerrit users/admins are probably Git users/admins too. But anyway, it\n>>> is ok of course for Google to organize whatever it prefers.\n>>> I hope GitHub will do as good a job running a GitTogether as Google did.\n>>>\n>>> Thanks,\n>>> Christian.\n\n\n\n-- \n-Patrick\n"},{"id":"199669","messageId":"CE0FBDBB-8F72-4BF7-816B-05D1D7DB8D8D@gmail.com","threadId":"31108","inReplyTo":"CAC+LNETz=OMegAMsYKNXNikqQ4Py=2xn0xyAbsxc0uPSt0+5sA@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: The GitTogether","fromName":"Luca Milanesio","fromEmail":"luca.milanesio@gmail.com","sentAt":"2012-09-21T16:57:38Z","receivedAt":"2012-09-21T16:57:38Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"luca.milanesio@gmail.com","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/64e45570bb8baaba9a566592150e6c7341a300e314501a944cb95b0bc1380f49?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"Agreed, that would be very nice.\nFor the EU location, I would personally sponsor London, possibly at some well-know location such as \"Skills Matters\"\n\nLuca.\n\nOn 21 Sep 2012, at 17:55, Patrick Renaud wrote:\n\n> THAT would be awesome :-)\n> \n> On 21 September 2012 12:45, Scott Chacon wrote:\n>> Actually, responding to some of the feedback I've been getting, I'm\n>> thinking of having a single day of just core developers and then a day\n>> or two of users, or vice versa, but doing them together in a single\n>> event. Then just doing that same pattern in both the EU and the US.\n>> \n>> Scott\n>> \n>> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Patrick Renaud wrote:\n>>> Guys,\n>>> \n>>> Are we still talking of having two disconnected events for Git, one\n>>> for core devs and one for users?\n>>> \n>>> -Patrick\n>>> \n>>> On 21 September 2012 11:23, Christian Couder wrote:\n>>>> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Shawn Pearce wrote:\n>>>>> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Christian Couder\n>>>>> \n>>>>>> It is sad that people who know what is or what is not happening are\n>>>>>> not taking care of letting people on this list know about it...\n>>>>> \n>>>>> I did not post to this mailing list about the Gerrit Code Review user\n>>>>> summit because I did not consider it to be on-topic to this list. We\n>>>>> do not normally discuss Gerrit Code Review here. Most users and\n>>>>> developers on this list only work on git-core (aka git.git aka the\n>>>>> thing Junio maintains). Gerrit... is a different animal. :-)\n>>>> \n>>>> It would have been nice if you had said earlier on this list/thread\n>>>> that Google chose to host a Gerrit user summit instead of the\n>>>> traditional GitTogether.\n>>>> \n>>>>> If you are interested in attending, it is Saturday November 10th and\n>>>>> Sunday 11th in Mountain View, CA. The user summit is invite only, but\n>>>>> you may request an invitation at http://goo.gl/5HYlB.\n>>>> \n>>>> Thanks for the information. I think it is indeed interesting to know about it.\n>>>> \n>>>>> I have no further information about the potential GitTogether than\n>>>>> anyone else. IIRC there is a suggestion in this thread about hosting\n>>>>> something in the EU sometime in early next year, with someone at\n>>>>> GitHub acting as organizer.\n>>>> \n>>>> Before I posted what you wrote on the Gerrit mailing list, the only\n>>>> information people had on this list/thread was about a GitHub proposal\n>>>> to organize 2 different GitTogether: \"the developer-centric one in\n>>>> Berlin\n>>>> in early October (a few weeks before the Mentor Summit this time) and\n>>>> the user one in January or February of next year.\"\n>>>> \n>>>>> Google chose to run only a Gerrit user summit this year because of the\n>>>>> mix of attendees at the last GitTogether. The group was about 60-70%\n>>>>> Gerrit users/admins. We felt it was time to host something specific\n>>>>> for that audience.\n>>>> \n>>>> Gerrit users/admins are probably Git users/admins too. But anyway, it\n>>>> is ok of course for Google to organize whatever it prefers.\n>>>> I hope GitHub will do as good a job running a GitTogether as Google did.\n>>>> \n>>>> Thanks,\n>>>> Christian.\n> \n> \n> \n> -- \n> -Patrick\n> --\n> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line \"unsubscribe git\" in\n> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org\n> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html\n"},{"id":"199734","messageId":"505D8F20.8060008@drmicha.warpmail.net","threadId":"31108","inReplyTo":"CAHGBnuPzb-jVqVAi+8=cSm=-mSQkVONbBaVyVf+s5L-KuBdUhg@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: The GitTogether","fromName":"Michael J Gruber","fromEmail":"git@drmicha.warpmail.net","sentAt":"2012-09-22T10:12:48Z","receivedAt":"2012-09-22T10:12:48Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"git@grubix.eu","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/233215?v=4"},"body":"Sebastian Schuberth venit, vidit, dixit 21.09.2012 16:33:\n> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Scott Chacon \n> wrote:\n> \n>>>> I'm also very much interested in attending a gathering Berlin,\n>>>> though preferably not in the first week of October. As I'm a\n>>>> local, I could probably also help with finding a location if\n>>>> necessary.\n>> \n>> If you would like, I would love to get you in contact with the \n>> GitHubber in Berlin who is helping to secure a venue there so you\n>> can help.\n> \n> Sure, feel free to forward him / her my email address. I'm surprised \n> to hear that you had so much trouble finding / booking a location.\n> For example, I would have expected one of the many co-working\n> locations in Berlin [1] to be a good fit.\n> \n> [1] http://www.coworking.de/regions/1-berlin\n\nAlso, there are many academic institutions, and at least some might be\nhappy to host an event like this (I'm thinking especially of the Zuse\ninstitute). I had offered to help with hooking up with them several\nweeks ago already. So, it's really just a matter of communication.\n\nMichael\n"},{"id":"199735","messageId":"CAHGBnuPw0JVfkbXYNCaV1gbRvAuvCakymgOPUjv5ogJ5ouoFzQ@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"31108","inReplyTo":"505D8F20.8060008@drmicha.warpmail.net","subject":"Re: The GitTogether","fromName":"Sebastian Schuberth","fromEmail":"sschuberth@gmail.com","sentAt":"2012-09-22T10:45:59Z","receivedAt":"2012-09-22T10:45:59Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"sschuberth@gmail.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/349154?v=4"},"body":"On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Michael J Gruber\n wrote:\n\n> Also, there are many academic institutions, and at least some might be\n> happy to host an event like this (I'm thinking especially of the Zuse\n> institute). I had offered to help with hooking up with them several\n> weeks ago already. So, it's really just a matter of communication.\n\nI had already contacted Steffen Prohaska from ZIB, but he was sorry to\nsay he would not able to host a GitTogether this time. But was when\nthe October time frame was still current. Maybe next year the\nsituation is different.\n\n-- \nSebastian Schuberth\n"},{"id":"199742","messageId":"00cb8946-a93d-40cf-84fe-4524ed54fdb8@zcs","threadId":"31108","inReplyTo":"505D8F20.8060008@drmicha.warpmail.net","subject":"Re: The GitTogether","fromName":"Enrico Weigelt","fromEmail":"enrico.weigelt@vnc.biz","sentAt":"2012-09-22T18:09:09Z","receivedAt":"2012-09-22T18:09:09Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"enrico.weigelt@vnc.biz","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/15479654ea5be5109582e0713a8ab4bb258846099c516dd320dc686ef70a8a3e?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"Hi,\n\n> Also, there are many academic institutions, and at least some might\n> be happy to host an event like this (I'm thinking especially of the Zuse\n> institute). I had offered to help with hooking up with them several\n> weeks ago already. So, it's really just a matter of communication.\n\nYep. Another option could be Fraunhofer (we've got connections there),\nor maybe Office-2.0 or Tempelhof Airport.\n\nI've already triggered our business guys, they're quite interested.\n\n\ncu\n-- \nMit freundlichen Grüßen / Kind regards \n\nEnrico Weigelt \nVNC - Virtual Network Consult GmbH \nHead Of Development \n\nPariser Platz 4a, D-10117 Berlin\nTel.: +49 (30) 3464615-20\nFax: +49 (30) 3464615-59\n\nenrico.weigelt@vnc.biz; www.vnc.de \n"}]}