{"thread":{"id":"3082","subject":"[RFC] \"clone --naked\"?","startedAt":"2006-01-16T07:47:50Z","lastAt":"2006-01-17T15:54:57Z","messageCount":7,"participants":["Junio C Hamano","Arjan van de Ven","Linus Torvalds","Ulrich Windl","Andreas Ericsson"],"isPatch":false,"patchVersion":null,"patchTotal":null},"messages":[{"id":"14712","messageId":"7vfynoy5p5.fsf_-_@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net","threadId":"3082","inReplyTo":"43CB57A0.29999.F89D30F@Ulrich.Windl.rkdvmks1.ngate.uni-regensburg.de","subject":"[RFC] \"clone --naked\"?","fromName":"Junio C Hamano","fromEmail":"junkio@cox.net","sentAt":"2006-01-16T07:47:50Z","receivedAt":"2006-01-16T07:47:50Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"gitster@pobox.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/54884?v=4"},"body":"\"Ulrich Windl\" writes:\n\n> On 14 Jan 2006 at 15:39, Junio C Hamano wrote:\n>\n> [...]\n>> BTW, I have been meaning to make this easier, by introducing a\n>> new option to \"git clone\", like this:\n> ...\n> You must be over 21 to use --naked, however ;-)\n> Maybe you find a better word.\n\nLinus seems to use word \"bare\" sometimes. Checking the git-core\ndocumentation, repository-layout documentation first used the\nword naked on Sep 1 2005, while there is no mention of \"bare\"\nrepository anywhere. Maybe \"bare\" is preferred?\n\nI hope you do not mind my sending this message out to git list\nto take a quick poll.\n"},{"id":"14717","messageId":"1137402365.3034.5.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org","threadId":"3082","inReplyTo":"7vfynoy5p5.fsf_-_@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net","subject":"Re: [kernel.org users] [RFC] \"clone --naked\"?","fromName":"Arjan van de Ven","fromEmail":"arjan@infradead.org","sentAt":"2006-01-16T09:06:05Z","receivedAt":"2006-01-16T09:06:05Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"arjan@infradead.org","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/42631f2338fc04830b31b08bc42b6575a3547fba469bd73ba7e1f237d650986a?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 23:47 -0800, Junio C Hamano wrote:\n> \"Ulrich Windl\" writes:\n> \n> > On 14 Jan 2006 at 15:39, Junio C Hamano wrote:\n> >\n> > [...]\n> >> BTW, I have been meaning to make this easier, by introducing a\n> >> new option to \"git clone\", like this:\n> > ...\n> > You must be over 21 to use --naked, however ;-)\n> > Maybe you find a better word.\n> \n> Linus seems to use word \"bare\" sometimes. Checking the git-core\n> documentation, repository-layout documentation first used the\n> word naked on Sep 1 2005, while there is no mention of \"bare\"\n> repository anywhere. Maybe \"bare\" is preferred?\n> \n> I hope you do not mind my sending this message out to git list\n> to take a quick poll.\n\nWhile I don't give a rats bottom about the \"21\"-ness of naked, \"naked\"\nis more likely to trigger spam traps than \"bare\" though... just a side\nconsideration but unfortunately needed nowadays ;(\n"},{"id":"14742","messageId":"Pine.LNX.4.64.0601161114080.13339@g5.osdl.org","threadId":"3082","inReplyTo":"1137402365.3034.5.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org","subject":"Re: [kernel.org users] [RFC] \"clone --naked\"?","fromName":"Linus Torvalds","fromEmail":"torvalds@osdl.org","sentAt":"2006-01-16T19:17:18Z","receivedAt":"2006-01-16T19:17:18Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"torvalds@linux-foundation.org","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/1024025?v=4"},"body":"\n\nOn Mon, 16 Jan 2006, Arjan van de Ven wrote:\n> \n> While I don't give a rats bottom about the \"21\"-ness of naked, \"naked\"\n> is more likely to trigger spam traps than \"bare\" though... just a side\n> consideration but unfortunately needed nowadays ;(\n\nYeah. I've had spamassassin kill patches to the aic7xxx driver because the \nsubject said \"aic7xxx\", and the \"xxx\" triggered as being a bad word.\n\nNow, \"naked\" doesn't seem to trigger anything for spamassassin, but I \nwouldn't be entirely surprised if some web-content blocker were to be \nover-eager at times. So \"bare\" might be safer.\n\n\t\tLinus\n"},{"id":"14770","messageId":"43CCB1D3.10309.35645D@Ulrich.Windl.rkdvmks1.ngate.uni-regensburg.de","threadId":"3082","inReplyTo":"Pine.LNX.4.64.0601161114080.13339@g5.osdl.org","subject":"Re: [kernel.org users] [RFC] \"clone --naked\"?","fromName":"Ulrich Windl","fromEmail":"ulrich.windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de","sentAt":"2006-01-17T07:58:59Z","receivedAt":"2006-01-17T07:58:59Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"ulrich.windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de","avatar":null},"body":"Hi!\n\nMaybe let me clarify: I don't have anything against any of those particular words. \nMy original intention was that I thought them to be little descriptive regarding \ntheir function. You seem to have \"--bare\" and \"--naked\". Hard to guess what they \nreally do. The suggestion to select better words was not primarily because of \nunderaged using Linux or any SPAM issues. That part was just a joke. Sorry.\n\nRegards,\nUlrich\n\n\nOn 16 Jan 2006 at 11:17, Linus Torvalds wrote:\n\n> \n> \n> On Mon, 16 Jan 2006, Arjan van de Ven wrote:\n> > \n> > While I don't give a rats bottom about the \"21\"-ness of naked, \"naked\"\n> > is more likely to trigger spam traps than \"bare\" though... just a side\n> > consideration but unfortunately needed nowadays ;(\n> \n> Yeah. I've had spamassassin kill patches to the aic7xxx driver because the \n> subject said \"aic7xxx\", and the \"xxx\" triggered as being a bad word.\n> \n> Now, \"naked\" doesn't seem to trigger anything for spamassassin, but I \n> wouldn't be entirely surprised if some web-content blocker were to be \n> over-eager at times. So \"bare\" might be safer.\n> \n> \t\tLinus\n> \n> _______________________________________________\n> Users mailing list\n> Users@linux.kernel.org\n> http://linux.kernel.org/mailman/listinfo/users\n"},{"id":"14773","messageId":"7v1wz7clps.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net","threadId":"3082","inReplyTo":"43CCB1D3.10309.35645D@Ulrich.Windl.rkdvmks1.ngate.uni-regensburg.de","subject":"Re: [kernel.org users] [RFC] \"clone --naked\"?","fromName":"Junio C Hamano","fromEmail":"junkio@cox.net","sentAt":"2006-01-17T08:17:19Z","receivedAt":"2006-01-17T08:17:19Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"gitster@pobox.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/54884?v=4"},"body":"\"Ulrich Windl\" writes:\n\n> ... My original intention was that I\n> thought them to be little descriptive regarding their\n> function. You seem to have \"--bare\" and \"--naked\". Hard to\n> guess what they really do.\n\nTrue. \"A repository without an associated working tree\". I do\nnot know a short and sweet phrase to describe that (well, except\n\"bare\" and \"naked\", which I kind of already got used to).\n\nWhatever word we choose to describe that, it should go to the\nglossary document.\n"},{"id":"14779","messageId":"43CCFDEA.2997.15EA2FA@Ulrich.Windl.rkdvmks1.ngate.uni-regensburg.de","threadId":"3082","inReplyTo":"7v1wz7clps.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net","subject":"Re: [kernel.org users] [RFC] \"clone --naked\"?","fromName":"Ulrich Windl","fromEmail":"ulrich.windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de","sentAt":"2006-01-17T13:23:39Z","receivedAt":"2006-01-17T13:23:39Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"ulrich.windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de","avatar":null},"body":"On 17 Jan 2006 at 0:17, Junio C Hamano wrote:\n\n> \"Ulrich Windl\" writes:\n> \n> > ... My original intention was that I\n> > thought them to be little descriptive regarding their\n> > function. You seem to have \"--bare\" and \"--naked\". Hard to\n> > guess what they really do.\n> \n> True. \"A repository without an associated working tree\". I do\n\n--rmo --repository-metadata-only?\n--sdf --sans-data-files?\n--rwwt (Repository Without Working Tree)?\n--qdr (Quick-and-Dirty Repository)?\n\n...\n\nI think you have your own ideas...\n\nUlrich\n\n\n> not know a short and sweet phrase to describe that (well, except\n> \"bare\" and \"naked\", which I kind of already got used to).\n> \n> Whatever word we choose to describe that, it should go to the\n> glossary document.\n> \n"},{"id":"14781","messageId":"43CD1351.3040706@op5.se","threadId":"3082","inReplyTo":"43CCFDEA.2997.15EA2FA@Ulrich.Windl.rkdvmks1.ngate.uni-regensburg.de","subject":"Re: [kernel.org users] [RFC] \"clone --naked\"?","fromName":"Andreas Ericsson","fromEmail":"ae@op5.se","sentAt":"2006-01-17T15:54:57Z","receivedAt":"2006-01-17T15:54:57Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"ae@op5.se","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/426e89595c75a8f5252dd0c989e5fabe5bcac616e68557427ad9aef6b0ca342a?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"Ulrich Windl wrote:\n> On 17 Jan 2006 at 0:17, Junio C Hamano wrote:\n> \n> \n>>\"Ulrich Windl\" writes:\n>>\n>>\n>>>... My original intention was that I\n>>>thought them to be little descriptive regarding their\n>>>function. You seem to have \"--bare\" and \"--naked\". Hard to\n>>>guess what they really do.\n>>\n>>True. \"A repository without an associated working tree\". I do\n> \n> \n> --rmo --repository-metadata-only?\n> --sdf --sans-data-files?\n> --rwwt (Repository Without Working Tree)?\n> --qdr (Quick-and-Dirty Repository)?\n> \n\nI like --bare (Barely A REpository, BAre REpository).\n\n\nOh well.\n\n-- \nAndreas Ericsson andreas.ericsson@op5.se\nOP5 AB www.op5.se\nTel: +46 8-230225 Fax: +46 8-230231\n"}]}