{"thread":{"id":"25135","subject":"did anyone see my message re \"git smart http server ...\"?","startedAt":"2010-09-18T02:18:20Z","lastAt":"2010-09-18T08:36:55Z","messageCount":4,"participants":["Miles Bader","Ilari Liusvaara","Andreas Ericsson"],"isPatch":false,"patchVersion":null,"patchTotal":null},"messages":[{"id":"150915","messageId":"AANLkTikz8eKkXt7hsnR5nunq3Z8Ub5nvetctUsa1vOto@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"25135","inReplyTo":null,"subject":"did anyone see my message re \"git smart http server ...\"?","fromName":"Miles Bader","fromEmail":"miles@gnu.org","sentAt":"2010-09-18T02:18:20Z","receivedAt":"2010-09-18T02:18:20Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"miles@gnu.org","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/01069b69593af7bff28e2f97afeb3644ae6fe2f5f56cb3a8cf34c5fb8c36efe5?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"I sent a message to the git mailing list yesterday, with the subject line:\n\n Subject: git \"smart http\" server vs. http redirects\n\nbut it doesn't seem to have turned up in any archives, although many\nmessages sent later seem to have been received.\n\nDid anyone see my message? Is there some kind of spam filtering on\nthe list that might have eaten it...?\n\nThanks,\n\n-Miles\n\n-- \nCat is power.  Cat is peace.\n"},{"id":"150918","messageId":"20100918032351.GA30282@LK-Perkele-V2.elisa-laajakaista.fi","threadId":"25135","inReplyTo":"AANLkTikz8eKkXt7hsnR5nunq3Z8Ub5nvetctUsa1vOto@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: did anyone see my message re \"git smart http server ...\"?","fromName":"Ilari Liusvaara","fromEmail":"ilari.liusvaara@elisanet.fi","sentAt":"2010-09-18T03:23:51Z","receivedAt":"2010-09-18T03:23:51Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"ilari.liusvaara@elisanet.fi","avatar":null},"body":"On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 11:18:20AM +0900, Miles Bader wrote:\n> I sent a message to the git mailing list yesterday, with the subject line:\n> \n> Subject: git \"smart http\" server vs. http redirects\n> \n> Did anyone see my message? Is there some kind of spam filtering on\n> the list that might have eaten it...?\n\nI searched my own git mailbox, no match.\n\nThe most important filter on mailinglist is that all messages even\ncontaining HTML part are junked. There are also some forbidden words\n(and word combinations) that cause message to be dropped.\n\n-Ilari\n"},{"id":"150919","messageId":"AANLkTi=-k_qWW2LuUGrq8U_8_cMLYVrMy6j5_s9zkyf6@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"25135","inReplyTo":"20100918032351.GA30282@LK-Perkele-V2.elisa-laajakaista.fi","subject":"Re: did anyone see my message re \"git smart http server ...\"?","fromName":"Miles Bader","fromEmail":"miles@gnu.org","sentAt":"2010-09-18T03:26:46Z","receivedAt":"2010-09-18T03:26:46Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"miles@gnu.org","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/01069b69593af7bff28e2f97afeb3644ae6fe2f5f56cb3a8cf34c5fb8c36efe5?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Ilari Liusvaara\n wrote:\n> On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 11:18:20AM +0900, Miles Bader wrote:\n>> I sent a message to the git mailing list yesterday, with the subject line:\n>>\n>>   Subject:  git \"smart http\" server vs. http redirects\n>>\n>> Did anyone see my message?  Is there some kind of spam filtering on\n>> the list that might have eaten it...?\n>\n> I searched my own git mailbox, no match.\n>\n> The most important filter on mailinglist is that all messages even\n> containing HTML part are junked. There are also some forbidden words\n> (and word combinations) that cause message to be dropped.\n\nyay. Nothing like ad-hoc spam filters that silently drop messages!\n\nMy message contained some examples of an http output stream, i dunno\nmaybe it's unhappy with some of that...\n\nSo... what is one supposed to do in this situation? Randomly delete\nparts of the message and resend it until something gets through?\n\nThanks,\n\n-Miles\n\n-- \nCat is power.  Cat is peace.\n"},{"id":"150931","messageId":"4C947A27.6070102@op5.se","threadId":"25135","inReplyTo":"AANLkTi=-k_qWW2LuUGrq8U_8_cMLYVrMy6j5_s9zkyf6@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: did anyone see my message re \"git smart http server ...\"?","fromName":"Andreas Ericsson","fromEmail":"ae@op5.se","sentAt":"2010-09-18T08:36:55Z","receivedAt":"2010-09-18T08:36:55Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"ae@op5.se","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/426e89595c75a8f5252dd0c989e5fabe5bcac616e68557427ad9aef6b0ca342a?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"On 09/18/2010 05:26 AM, Miles Bader wrote:\n> On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Ilari Liusvaara\n> wrote:\n>> On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 11:18:20AM +0900, Miles Bader wrote:\n>>> I sent a message to the git mailing list yesterday, with the subject line:\n>>>\n>>> Subject: git \"smart http\" server vs. http redirects\n>>>\n>>> Did anyone see my message? Is there some kind of spam filtering on\n>>> the list that might have eaten it...?\n>>\n>> I searched my own git mailbox, no match.\n>>\n>> The most important filter on mailinglist is that all messages even\n>> containing HTML part are junked. There are also some forbidden words\n>> (and word combinations) that cause message to be dropped.\n> \n> yay. Nothing like ad-hoc spam filters that silently drop messages!\n> \n\nReplying to spam is actually worse, since it's impossible to know the\nreal source address of email. Many spammers used spamfilters to send\nspam when the filters used to reply to spam.\n\nNowadays one usually gets a \"here's some spam I'm not sure about\" mail\nevery once in a while, but that's obviously not going to work for a\nmailing list.\n\n> My message contained some examples of an http output stream, i dunno\n> maybe it's unhappy with some of that...\n> \n> So... what is one supposed to do in this situation? Randomly delete\n> parts of the message and resend it until something gets through?\n> \n\nRephrase it, and possibly get rid of pasted output. I'm sure you've\nseen enough spam to know what triggers spamfilters. Removing 'smart',\nand especially 'git smart' from the subject line would probably be a\ngood idea. Levenshtein distance does matter, and 1 is not very far.\nIt's so very convenient to concatenate with just about anything if\nyou want to sell something to someone.\n\n-- \nAndreas Ericsson andreas.ericsson@op5.se\nOP5 AB www.op5.se\nTel: +46 8-230225 Fax: +46 8-230231\n\nConsidering the successes of the wars on alcohol, poverty, drugs and\nterror, I think we should give some serious thought to declaring war\non peace.\n"}]}