{"thread":{"id":"23307","subject":"git as backup and file sync system","startedAt":"2010-04-02T19:16:06Z","lastAt":"2010-04-02T21:20:20Z","messageCount":4,"participants":["Simon","Sverre Rabbelier","Avery Pennarun"],"isPatch":false,"patchVersion":null,"patchTotal":null},"messages":[{"id":"138449","messageId":"m2q5f14cf5e1004021216y60797d29j1f63092435998823@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"23307","inReplyTo":null,"subject":"git as backup and file sync system","fromName":"Simon","fromEmail":"turner25@gmail.com","sentAt":"2010-04-02T19:16:06Z","receivedAt":"2010-04-02T19:16:06Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"turner25@gmail.com","avatar":null},"body":"Hi there,\n I'm not sure if this post will be very welcome, but I'd like your\nfeedback or suggestions. I've been reading Jon Loeliger's book about\ngit and I've understood many many things. I'm interested in using git\nas a backup and sync system between computers.\n\nThe one thing I'm missing is files metadata. I thought the simplest\napproach would be to create a \"hidden\" file containing the output from\nstat (or something similar but more helpful). Then hash that \"hidden\"\nfile as well or even make it part of the real file (ie first line of\nevery file are their metadata)... I think I should look into some\nhooks, but I'd need some guidance to get started... help appreciated!\n\nSimon\n"},{"id":"138455","messageId":"k2mfabb9a1e1004021235xc75e25a8na941c1754fd543c@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"23307","inReplyTo":"m2q5f14cf5e1004021216y60797d29j1f63092435998823@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: git as backup and file sync system","fromName":"Sverre Rabbelier","fromEmail":"srabbelier@gmail.com","sentAt":"2010-04-02T19:35:36Z","receivedAt":"2010-04-02T19:35:36Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"srabbelier@gmail.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/3098?v=4"},"body":"Heya,\n\nOn Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 13:16, Simon wrote:\n>  I'm not sure if this post will be very welcome, but I'd like your\n> feedback or suggestions.  I've been reading Jon Loeliger's book about\n> git and I've understood many many things.  I'm interested in using git\n> as a backup and sync system between computers.\n\nYou might want to look into 'bup', [0] designed specifically for that\npurpose. It seems like introduction post about it on apenwarr.ca is\ndown though [1].\n\n[0] http://github.com/apenwarr/bup\n[1] http://apenwarr.ca/log/?m=201001#04\n\n-- \nCheers,\n\nSverre Rabbelier\n"},{"id":"138456","messageId":"j2v32541b131004021249s738a06cfq2804b97f798ac482@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"23307","inReplyTo":"k2mfabb9a1e1004021235xc75e25a8na941c1754fd543c@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: git as backup and file sync system","fromName":"Avery Pennarun","fromEmail":"apenwarr@gmail.com","sentAt":"2010-04-02T19:49:53Z","receivedAt":"2010-04-02T19:49:53Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"apenwarr@gmail.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/20592?v=4"},"body":"On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Sverre Rabbelier wrote:\n> On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 13:16, Simon wrote:\n>>  I'm not sure if this post will be very welcome, but I'd like your\n>> feedback or suggestions.  I've been reading Jon Loeliger's book about\n>> git and I've understood many many things.  I'm interested in using git\n>> as a backup and sync system between computers.\n>\n> You might want to look into 'bup', [0] designed specifically for that\n> purpose. It seems like introduction post about it on apenwarr.ca is\n> down though [1].\n>\n> [0] http://github.com/apenwarr/bup\n> [1] http://apenwarr.ca/log/?m=201001#04\n\nYeah, sorry, apenwarr.ca is flakey at the best of times. It takes after me :)\n\nDisclaimer: bup does lots of neat backup-related stuff, but it doesn't\n*yet* support detailed metadata. We're working on it:\nhttp://groups.google.com/group/bup-list/browse_thread/thread/e899a579a6f7ae55\n\nIf you're only storing a relatively small number of files (say /etc),\nthen something like etckeeper might do what you want. Or more\ngenerally, metastore (which etckeeper uses):\nhttp://david.hardeman.nu/software.php\n\nUnfortunately neither git nor metastore can handle the high data\nvolumes that bup is aimed at (ie. your entire filesystem, including\nhuge files), which is why bup exists. Give it a few weeks and we\nshould have some decent metadata handling in place though.\n\nHave fun,\n\nAvery\n"},{"id":"138462","messageId":"v2l5f14cf5e1004021420mcd67bb5bh23730ae53f2aa8c6@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"23307","inReplyTo":"j2v32541b131004021249s738a06cfq2804b97f798ac482@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: git as backup and file sync system","fromName":"Simon","fromEmail":"turner25@gmail.com","sentAt":"2010-04-02T21:20:20Z","receivedAt":"2010-04-02T21:20:20Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"turner25@gmail.com","avatar":null},"body":"Hey thanks guys!\n\nThis looks cool, I mean, I don't really care that it doesn't support\neverything topshape, I'm sure I can manage something with this. I'll\nclearly look into it. What I like most is that development on it is\nalive now. =)\n\nSimon\n\nOn Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Avery Pennarun wrote:\n> On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Sverre Rabbelier wrote:\n>> On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 13:16, Simon wrote:\n>>>  I'm not sure if this post will be very welcome, but I'd like your\n>>> feedback or suggestions.  I've been reading Jon Loeliger's book about\n>>> git and I've understood many many things.  I'm interested in using git\n>>> as a backup and sync system between computers.\n>>\n>> You might want to look into 'bup', [0] designed specifically for that\n>> purpose. It seems like introduction post about it on apenwarr.ca is\n>> down though [1].\n>>\n>> [0] http://github.com/apenwarr/bup\n>> [1] http://apenwarr.ca/log/?m=201001#04\n>\n> Yeah, sorry, apenwarr.ca is flakey at the best of times.  It takes after me :)\n>\n> Disclaimer: bup does lots of neat backup-related stuff, but it doesn't\n> *yet* support detailed metadata.  We're working on it:\n> http://groups.google.com/group/bup-list/browse_thread/thread/e899a579a6f7ae55\n>\n> If you're only storing a relatively small number of files (say /etc),\n> then something like etckeeper might do what you want.  Or more\n> generally, metastore (which etckeeper uses):\n> http://david.hardeman.nu/software.php\n>\n> Unfortunately neither git nor metastore can handle the high data\n> volumes that bup is aimed at (ie. your entire filesystem, including\n> huge files), which is why bup exists.  Give it a few weeks and we\n> should have some decent metadata handling in place though.\n>\n> Have fun,\n>\n> Avery\n>\n"}]}