{"thread":{"id":"22794","subject":"git as an sfc member project","startedAt":"2010-02-24T15:44:53Z","lastAt":"2010-03-01T10:58:21Z","messageCount":16,"participants":["Jeff King","Jakub Narebski","Shawn O. Pearce","Christian Couder","Junio C Hamano","Julian Phillips","Eric Wong"],"isPatch":false,"patchVersion":null,"patchTotal":null},"messages":[{"id":"135574","messageId":"20100224154452.GA25872@coredump.intra.peff.net","threadId":"22794","inReplyTo":null,"subject":"git as an sfc member project","fromName":"Jeff King","fromEmail":"peff@peff.net","sentAt":"2010-02-24T15:44:53Z","receivedAt":"2010-02-24T15:44:53Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"peff@peff.net","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/45925?v=4"},"body":"A while back I mentioned that we had some leftover GSoC money, and\nsuggested joining the Software Freedom Conservancy as a member project:\n\n http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/134435\n\nPeople seemed to think it was a good idea, so I have gone in that\ndirection. The short of it is:\n\n 1. They now have our money. :) I was able to donate the money to them\n before the new year, which makes things much easier tax-wise. The\n money is earmarked for git, contingent upon us becoming a member\n project. If, for whatever reason, we do not do so during 2010, then\n the money reverts to the SFC general fund.\n\n 2. I've exchanged emails with Bradley Kuhn, the president of the SFC.\n He was very positive about git becoming a member project. The SFC\n board has a semi-annual meeting to vote on accepting new member\n projects, and they will be meeting soon. We just need to fill out\n the application materials and get them to Bradley in the next\n week.\n\nThe materials are below. They're not very long, and I have tried to fill\nthem out as best I can. There are a few parts that could be elaborated\non (mostly related to JGit, which I have included under the umbrella of\nthe git project, and about which I am mostly ignorant). And of course I\nam open to suggestions and corrections.\n\n-- >8 --\n\n> * Detailed description of the project.\n\nGit is a free & open source, distributed version control system\ndesigned to handle everything from small to very large projects with\nspeed and efficiency.\n\nEvery Git clone is a full-fledged repository with complete history and\nfull revision tracking capabilities, not dependent on network access or\na central server. Branching and merging are fast and easy to do.\n\nProjects using git include the Linux kernel, X.org, Perl, Gnome, Ruby on\nRails, Wine, and more.\n\n> * FLOSS License(s) used by the project\n\nCore git is licensed under GPLv2. JGit, a pure-Java implementation of\ngit, is licensed under the Eclipse Distribution License.\n\n> * Roadmap for future development.\n\nGit is currently a stable, widely-used version control system. We\ncontinue to accept enhancements and bug fixes, with a new major release\nabout every 18 months, minor releases every 2-3 months, and bugfix\nreleases every few weeks. The development remains highly distributed,\nwith 281 individual contributors during the past year.\n\n> * link to the website.\n\nhttp://git-scm.org\n\n> * Link to the code repository.\n\nhttp://git.kernel.org/?p=git/git.git\n\n> * Have you ever had funds held by the project, or by any individual\n> on behalf of the projects? How and for what did you spend those\n> funds?\n\nYes. We received funds from participating in the Google Summer of Code\nin 2008 and 2009. Those funds were disbursed to individual project\nmembers, and used for transportation and lodging of members attending\nthe GSoC mentor summit and the GitTogether, our annual mini-conference\nfor developers. The remainder of the funds were sent to the SFC.\n\n> * Brief history of the project, including past governance decisions.\n\nGit was started by Linus Torvalds in April of 2005. In July of 2005,\nJunio C Hamano became the maintainer. Junio maintains sole control of\nthe codebase, accepting changes from other developers (both frequent\ncontributers and one-time patch submitters). For participation in the\nGoogle Summer of Code, Shawn Pearce has served as the project\nadministrator.\n\n[JGit?]\n\n> * Existing for-profit or non-profit affiliations, funding\n> relationships, or other agreements that the project or its leaders\n> have with other organizations.\n\nGit has participated in the Google Summer of Code.\n\n[Eclipse affiliations for JGit?]\n\n> * Names, email addresses, and affiliations of key developers, past and\n> present.\n\nJunio C Hamano \nShawn O. Pearce \nLinus Torvalds \nJohannes Schindelin \nEric Wong \nJeff King \nJakub Narebski \nNicolas Pitre \nPaul Mackerras \nChristian Couder \n\n[This is basically \"shortlog -ns | head\". I am happy to make it shorter\nor longer if people think it should be. Affiliations?]\n\n> * Information about any past for-profit or non-profit organizational\n> affiliations the project has had.\n\nNone.\n"},{"id":"135576","messageId":"m3k4u2mxdr.fsf@localhost.localdomain","threadId":"22794","inReplyTo":"20100224154452.GA25872@coredump.intra.peff.net","subject":"Re: git as an sfc member project","fromName":"Jakub Narebski","fromEmail":"jnareb@gmail.com","sentAt":"2010-02-24T16:07:13Z","receivedAt":"2010-02-24T16:07:13Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"jnareb@gmail.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/2706?v=4"},"body":"Jeff King writes:\n\n> > * Names, email addresses, and affiliations of key developers, past and\n> > present.\n> \n> Junio C Hamano \n> Shawn O. Pearce \n> Linus Torvalds \n> Johannes Schindelin \n> Eric Wong \n> Jeff King \n> Jakub Narebski \n> Nicolas Pitre \n> Paul Mackerras \n> Christian Couder \n> \n> [This is basically \"shortlog -ns | head\". I am happy to make it shorter\n> or longer if people think it should be. Affiliations?]\n\nI wouldn't say I am \"key developer\"...\n\nIn the \"A note from maintainer\", which is send periodically to git\nmailing list, and which is also available as MaintNotes file in 'todo'\nbranch in git repository, you have the following description of\ndevelopers at the end of this file:\n\n-- >8 -- [git.git$ git show todo:MaintNotes] -- >8 --\n\nI [== Junio C Hamano, Git maintainer] would like to thank everybody\nwho helped to raise git into the current shape. Especially I would\nlike to thank the git list regulars whose help I have relied on and\nexpect to continue relying on heavily:\n\n - Linus on general design issues.\n\n - Linus, Shawn Pearce, Johannes Schindelin, Nicolas Pitre, RenĂŠ\n Scharfe, Jeff King and Johannes Sixt on general implementation\n issues.\n\n - Shawn and Nicolas Pitre on pack issues.\n\n - Martin Langhoff and Frank Lichtenheld on cvsserver and cvsimport.\n\n - Paul Mackerras on gitk.\n\n - Eric Wong on git-svn.\n\n - Simon Hausmann on git-p4.\n\n - Jakub Narebski, Petr Baudis, Luben Tuikov, Giuseppe Bilotta on\n gitweb.\n\n - J. Bruce Fields on documentation (and countless others for\n proofreading and fixing).\n\n - Alexandre Julliard on Emacs integration.\n\n - Charles Bailey for taking good care of git-mergetool (and Theodore\n Ts'o for creating it in the first place).\n\n - David Aguilar for git-difftool.\n\n - Johannes Schindelin, Johannes Sixt and others for their effort to\n move things forward on the Windows front.\n\n - People on non-Linux platforms for keeping their eyes on\n portability; especially, Randal Schwartz, Theodore Ts'o, Jason\n Riedy, Thomas Glanzmann, Brandon Casey, Jeff King, Alex Riesen and\n countless others.\n\n-- >8 -- [end] -- >8 --\n-- \nJakub Narebski\nPoland\nShadeHawk on #git\n"},{"id":"135577","messageId":"20100224162205.GA20340@spearce.org","threadId":"22794","inReplyTo":"20100224154452.GA25872@coredump.intra.peff.net","subject":"Re: git as an sfc member project","fromName":"Shawn O. Pearce","fromEmail":"spearce@spearce.org","sentAt":"2010-02-24T16:22:05Z","receivedAt":"2010-02-24T16:22:05Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"spearce@spearce.org","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/34844?v=4"},"body":"Thanks for getting this started!\n\nJeff King wrote:\n> > * Detailed description of the project.\n> \n> Git is a free & open source, distributed version control system\n> designed to handle everything from small to very large projects with\n> speed and efficiency.\n> \n> Every Git clone is a full-fledged repository with complete history and\n> full revision tracking capabilities, not dependent on network access or\n> a central server. Branching and merging are fast and easy to do.\n> \n> Projects using git include the Linux kernel, X.org, Perl, Gnome, Ruby on\n> Rails, Wine, and more.\n\n\nYou could also mention the Android Open Source Project. Every one \nof those Android handsets on the market... the VCS used by the\nteam that engineered those is Git, preciously because it allows\nthe handset builder to manage their changes.\n\nWe wouldn't have 8+ devices on the market without Git.\n\n:-)\n\n \n> > * FLOSS License(s) used by the project\n> \n> Core git is licensed under GPLv2. JGit, a pure-Java implementation of\n> git, is licensed under the Eclipse Distribution License.\n\nSlightly reworded:\n\n The core git code is licensed under GPLv2.\n\n The JGit code, a pure-Java implementation of git, is licensed under\n the Eclipse Distribution License, which is a new-style BSD license.\n\n\n> > * Roadmap for future development.\n> \n> Git is currently a stable, widely-used version control system. We\n> continue to accept enhancements and bug fixes, with a new major release\n> about every 18 months, minor releases every 2-3 months, and bugfix\n> releases every few weeks. The development remains highly distributed,\n> with 281 individual contributors during the past year.\n\nI'm not sure this really answers their question. I think we\nshould make it clear WTF is going on with Git and its \"roadmap\".\nHow about this instead?\n\n Git is a stable, widely-used version control system. The majority\n of the key functionality is already implemented. Consequently the\n project does not maintain a formal roadmap, but instead accepts\n a wide range of relevant enhancements and fixes directly from\n the user community.\n\n Based on prior history, major new releases occur about every 18\n months, minor releases about every 2-3 months, and maintenance\n releases every few weeks. Development is highly distributed,\n with over 280 individual contributors during the past 12 months,\n and over 730 contributors since the project's inception.\n\n\n> > * link to the website.\n> \n> http://git-scm.org\n\nhttp://www.eclipse.org/jgit/\n \n\n> > * Link to the code repository.\n> \n> http://git.kernel.org/?p=git/git.git\n\nhttp://repo.or.cz/w/jgit.git\n\n\n> > * Brief history of the project, including past governance decisions.\n> \n> [JGit?]\n\nJGit was started in 2006 by Shawn Pearce to provide an efficient,\nportable implementation of Git for Java based applications. The\nproject moved to the Eclipse Foundation in late 2009, but remains a\nstandalone component and is widely embedded in non-Eclipse software.\n\n \n> > * Existing for-profit or non-profit affiliations, funding\n> > relationships, or other agreements that the project or its leaders\n> > have with other organizations.\n> \n> Git has participated in the Google Summer of Code.\n> \n> [Eclipse affiliations for JGit?]\n\nJGit is hosted by the Eclipse Foundation, and is run in accordance\nwith the foundation's development processes.\n\n \n> > * Names, email addresses, and affiliations of key developers, past and\n> > present.\n...\n> Shawn O. Pearce \n\nWell, if you want to list current affiliations for me, I guess I can\nnow claim:\n\n * Google employee\n * Eclipse Foundation project committer\n * Apache Software Foundation project committer\n\nAlso, JGit has Robin Rosenberg as\na key developer. If you are listing JGit on the application,\nI think he deserves the credit too.\n \n-- \nShawn.\n"},{"id":"135588","messageId":"201002241844.37207.chriscool@tuxfamily.org","threadId":"22794","inReplyTo":"20100224154452.GA25872@coredump.intra.peff.net","subject":"Re: git as an sfc member project","fromName":"Christian Couder","fromEmail":"chriscool@tuxfamily.org","sentAt":"2010-02-24T17:44:37Z","receivedAt":"2010-02-24T17:44:37Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"christian.couder@gmail.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/208954?v=4"},"body":"On Wednesday 24 February 2010 16:44:53 Jeff King wrote:\n> A while back I mentioned that we had some leftover GSoC money, and\n> suggested joining the Software Freedom Conservancy as a member project:\n> \n> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/134435\n> \n> People seemed to think it was a good idea, so I have gone in that\n> direction.\n\nThanks for that!\n\n> > * Names, email addresses, and affiliations of key developers, past and\n> > present.\n> \n> Junio C Hamano \n> Shawn O. Pearce \n> Linus Torvalds \n> Johannes Schindelin \n> Eric Wong \n> Jeff King \n> Jakub Narebski \n> Nicolas Pitre \n> Paul Mackerras \n> Christian Couder \n\nI am very happy to be considered a key developer in your list, but it seems \nunfair for both Johannes Sixt and Simon Hausmann as they have a higher commit \ncount than I have. So you should perhaps add them too. Or did you count lines \nof code?\n\n> [This is basically \"shortlog -ns | head\". I am happy to make it shorter\n> or longer if people think it should be. Affiliations?]\n\nAbout affiliations, I did practically all of my work on Git at home during my \nfree time, so I have none. But I would happy to have one in the future, if \nsome company would be willing to pay me for working on Git or Git related stuff \n(hint, hint! ;-)\n\nThanks,\nChristian.\n"},{"id":"135592","messageId":"7vmxyytsdt.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org","threadId":"22794","inReplyTo":"20100224154452.GA25872@coredump.intra.peff.net","subject":"Re: git as an sfc member project","fromName":"Junio C Hamano","fromEmail":"gitster@pobox.com","sentAt":"2010-02-24T18:12:30Z","receivedAt":"2010-02-24T18:12:30Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"gitster@pobox.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/54884?v=4"},"body":"Jeff King writes:\n\n>> * Existing for-profit or non-profit affiliations, funding\n>> relationships, or other agreements that the project or its leaders\n>> have with other organizations.\n\nPart of my git time used to be funded jointly by my employer and NEC, but\nthe latter is not anymore. I need to look for sponsors.\n"},{"id":"135749","messageId":"20100226122554.GA10198@coredump.intra.peff.net","threadId":"22794","inReplyTo":"201002241844.37207.chriscool@tuxfamily.org","subject":"Re: git as an sfc member project","fromName":"Jeff King","fromEmail":"peff@peff.net","sentAt":"2010-02-26T12:25:54Z","receivedAt":"2010-02-26T12:25:54Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"peff@peff.net","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/45925?v=4"},"body":"On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 06:44:37PM +0100, Christian Couder wrote:\n\n> > Junio C Hamano \n> > Shawn O. Pearce \n> > Linus Torvalds \n> > Johannes Schindelin \n> > Eric Wong \n> > Jeff King \n> > Jakub Narebski \n> > Nicolas Pitre \n> > Paul Mackerras \n> > Christian Couder \n> \n> I am very happy to be considered a key developer in your list, but it seems \n> unfair for both Johannes Sixt and Simon Hausmann as they have a higher commit \n> count than I have. So you should perhaps add them too. Or did you count lines \n> of code?\n\nNo, I used \"shortlog -nse\" because I wanted the email addresses, but\nthat short-changes people who have patches under multiple addresses.\nSome of them I just removed duplicates (like Linus), but for some people\nit bumped them off the top 10 list.\n\nI'll fix that in the next iteration.\n\n-Peff\n"},{"id":"135750","messageId":"20100226122957.GB10198@coredump.intra.peff.net","threadId":"22794","inReplyTo":"7vmxyytsdt.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org","subject":"Re: git as an sfc member project","fromName":"Jeff King","fromEmail":"peff@peff.net","sentAt":"2010-02-26T12:29:57Z","receivedAt":"2010-02-26T12:29:57Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"peff@peff.net","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/45925?v=4"},"body":"On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 10:12:30AM -0800, Junio C Hamano wrote:\n\n> Jeff King writes:\n> \n> >> * Existing for-profit or non-profit affiliations, funding\n> >> relationships, or other agreements that the project or its leaders\n> >> have with other organizations.\n> \n> Part of my git time used to be funded jointly by my employer and NEC, but\n> the latter is not anymore. I need to look for sponsors.\n\nThanks, I'll make a note. I split it into:\n\n [Existing affiliations...]\n Part of Junio Hamano's time on git is funded by his employer.\n\n [Past Affiliations...]\n Part of Junio Hamano's time on git used to be funded by NEC, but that\n is no longer the case.\n\nDo you want to mention your employer by name?\n\n-Peff\n"},{"id":"135751","messageId":"20100226123700.GC10198@coredump.intra.peff.net","threadId":"22794","inReplyTo":"20100226122957.GB10198@coredump.intra.peff.net","subject":"Re: git as an sfc member project","fromName":"Jeff King","fromEmail":"peff@peff.net","sentAt":"2010-02-26T12:37:00Z","receivedAt":"2010-02-26T12:37:00Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"peff@peff.net","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/45925?v=4"},"body":"On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 07:29:57AM -0500, Jeff King wrote:\n\n> > Part of my git time used to be funded jointly by my employer and NEC, but\n> > the latter is not anymore. I need to look for sponsors.\n> \n> Thanks, I'll make a note. I split it into:\n> \n> [Existing affiliations...]\n> Part of Junio Hamano's time on git is funded by his employer.\n> \n> [Past Affiliations...]\n> Part of Junio Hamano's time on git used to be funded by NEC, but that\n> is no longer the case.\n> \n> Do you want to mention your employer by name?\n\nActually, scratch that. Those sections are about _project_ affiliation,\nand this is really about individual developer affiliation. I'll put it\nunder the \"affiliations of key developers section\".\n\n-Peff\n"},{"id":"135752","messageId":"20100226123945.GD10198@coredump.intra.peff.net","threadId":"22794","inReplyTo":"m3k4u2mxdr.fsf@localhost.localdomain","subject":"Re: git as an sfc member project","fromName":"Jeff King","fromEmail":"peff@peff.net","sentAt":"2010-02-26T12:39:45Z","receivedAt":"2010-02-26T12:39:45Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"peff@peff.net","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/45925?v=4"},"body":"On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 08:07:13AM -0800, Jakub Narebski wrote:\n\n> > [This is basically \"shortlog -ns | head\". I am happy to make it shorter\n> > or longer if people think it should be. Affiliations?]\n> \n> I wouldn't say I am \"key developer\"...\n\nWell, you have a lot of commits, anyway. ;)\n\n> In the \"A note from maintainer\", which is send periodically to git\n> mailing list, and which is also available as MaintNotes file in 'todo'\n> branch in git repository, you have the following description of\n> developers at the end of this file:\n\nYeah, I thought about that list, but it is very long. Honestly even\nputting ten people on the list seems long to me. I think git has a very\ndifferent distribution of committers than many other projects.\n\n-Peff\n"},{"id":"135753","messageId":"20100226124911.GE10198@coredump.intra.peff.net","threadId":"22794","inReplyTo":"20100224162205.GA20340@spearce.org","subject":"Re: git as an sfc member project","fromName":"Jeff King","fromEmail":"peff@peff.net","sentAt":"2010-02-26T12:49:11Z","receivedAt":"2010-02-26T12:49:11Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"peff@peff.net","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/45925?v=4"},"body":"On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 08:22:05AM -0800, Shawn O. Pearce wrote:\n\n> > Projects using git include the Linux kernel, X.org, Perl, Gnome, Ruby on\n> > Rails, Wine, and more.\n> \n> \n> You could also mention the Android Open Source Project. Every one \n\nHeh. I actually pulled most of the list from git-scm.org, and I remember\nreading Android and thinking it should go on the list, but somehow it\ndidn't...\n\nFixed.\n\n> > Core git is licensed under GPLv2. JGit, a pure-Java implementation of\n> > git, is licensed under the Eclipse Distribution License.\n> \n> Slightly reworded:\n\nThanks, yours is much better.\n\n> > > * Roadmap for future development.\n> [...]\n> I'm not sure this really answers their question. I think we\n> should make it clear WTF is going on with Git and its \"roadmap\".\n> How about this instead?\n\nNo, it doesn't answer their question. Yours is much better again (you\nfigured out what I was trying to say and actually said it ;) ).\n\n> [JGit stuff]\n\nAll added in.\n\n> Also, JGit has Robin Rosenberg as\n> a key developer. If you are listing JGit on the application,\n> I think he deserves the credit too.\n\nGood point (I obviously didn't even do a shortlog on jgit).\n\n-Peff\n"},{"id":"135754","messageId":"20100226125916.GA12650@coredump.intra.peff.net","threadId":"22794","inReplyTo":"20100224154452.GA25872@coredump.intra.peff.net","subject":"Re: git as an sfc member project","fromName":"Jeff King","fromEmail":"peff@peff.net","sentAt":"2010-02-26T12:59:16Z","receivedAt":"2010-02-26T12:59:16Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"peff@peff.net","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/45925?v=4"},"body":"On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 10:44:52AM -0500, Jeff King wrote:\n\n> A while back I mentioned that we had some leftover GSoC money, and\n> suggested joining the Software Freedom Conservancy as a member project:\n\nThanks for all of the feedback so far. Here is round 2 of the\napplication, which I hope is close to done. I am cc'ing all of the\npeople under the \"Key Developers\" list; if you have affiliations you\nfeel should be disclosed, please let me know. And of course any other\nsuggestions or corrections are welcome.\n\n-- >8 --\n\n> * Detailed description of the project.\n\nGit is a free & open source, distributed version control system\ndesigned to handle everything from small to very large projects with\nspeed and efficiency.\n\nEvery Git clone is a full-fledged repository with complete history and\nfull revision tracking capabilities, not dependent on network access or\na central server. Branching and merging are fast and easy to do.\n\nProjects using git include the Linux kernel, X.org, Perl, Gnome, Ruby on\nRails, Wine, Android, and more.\n\n> * FLOSS License(s) used by the project\n\nThe core git code is licensed under GPLv2.\n\nThe JGit code, a pure-Java implementation of git, is licensed under\nthe Eclipse Distribution License, which is a new-style BSD\nlicense.\n\n> * Roadmap for future development.\n\nGit is a stable, widely-used version control system. The majority\nof the key functionality is already implemented. Consequently the\nproject does not maintain a formal roadmap, but instead accepts\na wide range of relevant enhancements and fixes directly from\nthe user community.\n\nBased on prior history, major new releases occur about every 18\nmonths, minor releases about every 2-3 months, and maintenance\nreleases every few weeks. Development is highly distributed,\nwith over 280 individual contributors during the past 12 months,\nand over 730 contributors since the project's inception.\n\n> * link to the website.\n\nhttp://git-scm.org\nhttp://www.eclipse.org/jgit/\n\n> * Link to the code repository.\n\nhttp://git.kernel.org/?p=git/git.git\nhttp://repo.or.cz/w/jgit.git\n\n> * Have you ever had funds held by the project, or by any individual\n> on behalf of the projects? How and for what did you spend those\n> funds?\n\nYes. We received funds from participating in the Google Summer of Code\nin 2008 and 2009. Those funds were disbursed to individual project\nmembers, and used for transportation and lodging of members attending\nthe GSoC mentor summit and the GitTogether, our annual mini-conference\nfor developers. The remainder of the funds were sent to the SFC.\n\n> * Brief history of the project, including past governance decisions.\n\nGit was started by Linus Torvalds in April of 2005. In July of 2005,\nJunio C Hamano became the maintainer. Junio maintains sole control of\nthe codebase, accepting changes from other developers (both frequent\ncontributers and one-time patch submitters). For participation in the\nGoogle Summer of Code, Shawn Pearce has served as the project\nadministrator.\n\nJGit was started in 2006 by Shawn Pearce to provide an efficient,\nportable implementation of Git for Java based applications. The\nproject moved to the Eclipse Foundation in late 2009, but remains a\nstandalone component and is widely embedded in non-Eclipse software.\n\n> * Existing for-profit or non-profit affiliations, funding\n> relationships, or other agreements that the project or its leaders\n> have with other organizations.\n\nGit has participated in the Google Summer of Code.\n\nJGit is hosted by the Eclipse Foundation, and is run in accordance\nwith the foundation's development processes.\n\n> * Names, email addresses, and affiliations of key developers, past and\n> present.\n\nJunio C Hamano \n(Part of Junio's git time used to be funded jointly by his employer and\nNEC, but the latter is not anymore.)\n\nShawn O. Pearce \n(Google employee, Eclipse Foundation project committer, Apache Software\nFoundation project committer)\n\nLinus Torvalds \n[Linux Foundation?]\n\nJohannes Schindelin \nEric Wong \nJeff King \nJakub Narebski \nNicolas Pitre \nPaul Mackerras \nJohannes Sixt \nRobin Rosenberg \n\n[I'm still not happy with this list. For example, Pasky was certainly a\nkey person (and while he is not too active lately, it does say \"past and\npresent\"). But this list is already getting long, and if they really\ncare they can run shortlog themselves. I am tempted to cut it off after\nDscho, where there is a big jump in the number of commits:\n\n $ git shortlog -ns v1.7.0\n 7689 Junio C Hamano\n 1356 Shawn O. Pearce\n 1092 Linus Torvalds\n 710 Johannes Schindelin\n 459 Eric Wong\n 432 Jeff King\n 395 Jakub Narebski\n 327 Nicolas Pitre\n 322 Paul Mackerras\n 272 Johannes Sixt\n\nMaybe a note saying the development is very distributed and that they\nshould look at the repo for full details?]\n\n> * Information about any past for-profit or non-profit organizational\n> affiliations the project has had.\n\nNone.\n"},{"id":"135755","messageId":"2b203beb1823fe320af0c8a520a7818d@212.159.54.234","threadId":"22794","inReplyTo":"20100226125916.GA12650@coredump.intra.peff.net","subject":"Re: git as an sfc member project","fromName":"Julian Phillips","fromEmail":"julian@quantumfyre.co.uk","sentAt":"2010-02-26T13:14:27Z","receivedAt":"2010-02-26T13:14:27Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"julian@quantumfyre.co.uk","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/948888?v=4"},"body":"On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:59:16 -0500, Jeff King wrote:\n>> * Names, email addresses, and affiliations of key developers, past\nand\n>> present.\n> \n> Junio C Hamano \n> (Part of Junio's git time used to be funded jointly by his employer and\n> NEC, but the latter is not anymore.)\n> \n> Shawn O. Pearce \n> (Google employee, Eclipse Foundation project committer, Apache Software\n> Foundation project committer)\n> \n> Linus Torvalds \n> [Linux Foundation?]\n> \n> Johannes Schindelin \n> Eric Wong \n> Jeff King \n> Jakub Narebski \n> Nicolas Pitre \n> Paul Mackerras \n> Johannes Sixt \n> Robin Rosenberg \n> \n> [I'm still not happy with this list. For example, Pasky was certainly a\n> key person (and while he is not too active lately, it does say \"past and\n> present\"). But this list is already getting long, and if they really\n> care they can run shortlog themselves. I am tempted to cut it off after\n> Dscho, where there is a big jump in the number of commits:\n> \n> $ git shortlog -ns v1.7.0\n> 7689 Junio C Hamano\n> 1356 Shawn O. Pearce\n> 1092 Linus Torvalds\n> 710 Johannes Schindelin\n> 459 Eric Wong\n> 432 Jeff King\n> 395 Jakub Narebski\n> 327 Nicolas Pitre\n> 322 Paul Mackerras\n> 272 Johannes Sixt\n> \n> Maybe a note saying the development is very distributed and that they\n> should look at the repo for full details?]\n\nYou could mention that a more complete list of developers is available at\nhttp://www.git-scm.com/about at the bottom of the page?\n\n-- \nJulian\n"},{"id":"135761","messageId":"201002261656.47740.jnareb@gmail.com","threadId":"22794","inReplyTo":"20100226123945.GD10198@coredump.intra.peff.net","subject":"Re: git as an sfc member project","fromName":"Jakub Narebski","fromEmail":"jnareb@gmail.com","sentAt":"2010-02-26T15:56:44Z","receivedAt":"2010-02-26T15:56:44Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"jnareb@gmail.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/2706?v=4"},"body":"On Fri, 26 Feb 2010, Jeff King wrote:\n> On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 08:07:13AM -0800, Jakub Narebski wrote:\n> \n> > > [This is basically \"shortlog -ns | head\". I am happy to make it shorter\n> > > or longer if people think it should be. Affiliations?]\n> > \n> > I wouldn't say I am \"key developer\"...\n> \n> Well, you have a lot of commits, anyway. ;)\n\nWell, there are mainly (310 out of 398 in whole lifetime of git) about\ngitweb, which is rather disconnected subsystem of git, started by\nKay Sievers.\n\n> > In the \"A note from maintainer\", which is send periodically to git\n> > mailing list, and which is also available as MaintNotes file in 'todo'\n> > branch in git repository, you have the following description of\n> > developers at the end of this file:\n> \n> Yeah, I thought about that list, but it is very long. Honestly even\n> putting ten people on the list seems long to me. I think git has a very\n> different distribution of committers than many other projects.\n\nWell, it at least lists contributors by subsystem...\n\n-- \nJakub Narebski\nPoland\n"},{"id":"135815","messageId":"20100227063513.GA21467@dcvr.yhbt.net","threadId":"22794","inReplyTo":"20100226125916.GA12650@coredump.intra.peff.net","subject":"Re: git as an sfc member project","fromName":"Eric Wong","fromEmail":"normalperson@yhbt.net","sentAt":"2010-02-27T06:35:13Z","receivedAt":"2010-02-27T06:35:13Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"e@80x24.org","avatar":null},"body":"Jeff King wrote:\n> Johannes Schindelin \n> Eric Wong \n> Jeff King \n> Jakub Narebski \n> Nicolas Pitre \n> Paul Mackerras \n> Johannes Sixt \n> Robin Rosenberg \n> \n> I am tempted to cut it off after\n> Dscho, where there is a big jump in the number of commits:\n\nHi Jeff,\n\nI have no objections to being cut here, as I've never considered myself\na key developer.\n\nFor the record, I solely own the copyrights to all contributions I've\never made to git (and every other Free Software project I work on).\nI have never been paid to work on git.\n\nI also do not deny being under the influence of powerful drugs when I\nworked heavily on git svn.\n\n-- \nEric Wong\n"},{"id":"135938","messageId":"20100301105328.GA25069@coredump.intra.peff.net","threadId":"22794","inReplyTo":"2b203beb1823fe320af0c8a520a7818d@212.159.54.234","subject":"Re: git as an sfc member project","fromName":"Jeff King","fromEmail":"peff@peff.net","sentAt":"2010-03-01T10:53:28Z","receivedAt":"2010-03-01T10:53:28Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"peff@peff.net","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/45925?v=4"},"body":"On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 01:14:27PM +0000, Julian Phillips wrote:\n\n> You could mention that a more complete list of developers is available at\n> http://www.git-scm.com/about at the bottom of the page?\n\nThanks, that's a good suggestion.\n\n-Peff\n"},{"id":"135940","messageId":"20100301105821.GB25069@coredump.intra.peff.net","threadId":"22794","inReplyTo":"201002261656.47740.jnareb@gmail.com","subject":"Re: git as an sfc member project","fromName":"Jeff King","fromEmail":"peff@peff.net","sentAt":"2010-03-01T10:58:21Z","receivedAt":"2010-03-01T10:58:21Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"peff@peff.net","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/45925?v=4"},"body":"On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 04:56:44PM +0100, Jakub Narebski wrote:\n\n> > > I wouldn't say I am \"key developer\"...\n> > \n> > Well, you have a lot of commits, anyway. ;)\n> \n> Well, there are mainly (310 out of 398 in whole lifetime of git) about\n> gitweb, which is rather disconnected subsystem of git, started by\n> Kay Sievers.\n\nTrue. In the final version I included you, but I marked up people with\ntheir areas (so Paul is marked as \"gitk\", you are \"gitweb\", I note that\nShawn is the git-gui maintainer as well as the JGit maintainer, etc).\n\n> > Yeah, I thought about that list, but it is very long. Honestly even\n> > putting ten people on the list seems long to me. I think git has a very\n> > different distribution of committers than many other projects.\n> \n> Well, it at least lists contributors by subsystem...\n\nGood point. I kept the list in the application itself more compact, but\ngave a link to git-scm.com/about (as Julian suggested) for a longer list\nof committers, and directly linked to Junio's MaintNotes to get more\ndetails on what people are working on.\n\n-Peff\n"}]}