{"thread":{"id":"22438","subject":"Implement --password option for git svn perl script","startedAt":"2010-01-29T14:17:10Z","lastAt":"2010-02-08T06:29:17Z","messageCount":14,"participants":["Laszlo Papp","Frank Li","Tay Ray Chuan","Eric Wong","Steve Diver"],"isPatch":false,"patchVersion":null,"patchTotal":null},"messages":[{"id":"132956","messageId":"a362e8011001290617n326a9dcx7c345ec31dff4ebe@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"22438","inReplyTo":null,"subject":"Implement --password option for git svn perl script","fromName":"Laszlo Papp","fromEmail":"djszapi@archlinux.us","sentAt":"2010-01-29T14:17:10Z","receivedAt":"2010-01-29T14:17:10Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"djszapi@archlinux.us","avatar":null},"body":"Hello,\n\nIt would be nice to use --pasword option on windows, like --username\noption with git svn facility. I can't handle SVN repository with git\nsvn on windows if I'd like to authenticate myself with other user than\nthe default domain name of my windows.\n\nIf I use --username option, Frank Li said me it's not enough in\nTortoiseGIT to provide a popup facility to type the password related\nto the set --username option.\n\nWhat's your opinion/suggestion/recommendation ?\n\nBest Regards,\nLaszlo Papp\n"},{"id":"132958","messageId":"a362e8011001290618g542be5f5y2777a925ba9bd936@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"22438","inReplyTo":"001636ed7681994278047e4e4a6f@google.com","subject":"Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)","fromName":"Laszlo Papp","fromEmail":"djszapi@archlinux.us","sentAt":"2010-01-29T14:18:30Z","receivedAt":"2010-01-29T14:18:30Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"djszapi@archlinux.us","avatar":null},"body":"Hello,\n\nIt would be nice to use --pasword option on windows, like --username\noption with git svn facility. I can't handle SVN repository with git\nsvn on windows if I'd like to authenticate myself with other user than\nthe default domain name of my windows.\n\nIf I use --username option, Frank Li said me it's not enough in\nTortoiseGIT to provide a popup facility to type the password related\nto the set --username option.\n\nWhat's your opinion/suggestion/recommendation ?\n\nBest Regards,\nLaszlo Papp\n"},{"id":"132960","messageId":"1976ea661001290704h3ed4761dscf95ba848b373555@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"22438","inReplyTo":"a362e8011001290618g542be5f5y2777a925ba9bd936@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)","fromName":"Frank Li","fromEmail":"lznuaa@gmail.com","sentAt":"2010-01-29T15:04:21Z","receivedAt":"2010-01-29T15:04:21Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"lznuaa@gmail.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/40642?v=4"},"body":">\n> If I use --username option, Frank Li said me it's not enough in\n> TortoiseGIT to provide a popup facility to type the password related\n> to the set --username option.\n>\n\nI prefer git-svn can provide environment to launch a external\napplication to input password like open ssh.\n"},{"id":"133259","messageId":"a362e8011002010816rf09da46x696894fb399689fc@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"22438","inReplyTo":"1976ea661001290704h3ed4761dscf95ba848b373555@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)","fromName":"Laszlo Papp","fromEmail":"djszapi@archlinux.us","sentAt":"2010-02-01T16:16:33Z","receivedAt":"2010-02-01T16:16:33Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"djszapi@archlinux.us","avatar":null},"body":"On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Frank Li wrote:\n>>\n>> If I use --username option, Frank Li said me it's not enough in\n>> TortoiseGIT to provide a popup facility to type the password related\n>> to the set --username option.\n>>\n>\n> I prefer git-svn can provide environment to launch a external\n> application to input password like open ssh.\n>\n\nNo perl guru among the volunteers if the original author is not available ? :(\n\nBest Regards,\nLaszlo Papp\n"},{"id":"133313","messageId":"be6fef0d1002012015q2a10af1cq4c5e5f968039ee45@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"22438","inReplyTo":"1976ea661001290704h3ed4761dscf95ba848b373555@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)","fromName":"Tay Ray Chuan","fromEmail":"rctay89@gmail.com","sentAt":"2010-02-02T04:15:26Z","receivedAt":"2010-02-02T04:15:26Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"rctay89@gmail.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/61553?v=4"},"body":"Hi,\n\nOn Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:04 PM, Frank Li wrote:\n> I prefer git-svn can provide environment to launch a external\n> application to input password like open ssh.\n\nhow about users who are authenticating over http with basic and\ndigest? How does one go about launching an external app for password\ninput in those cases?\n\nPlease don't take this as a criticism of your personal preference. I\nbelieve this feature would make things convenient for users who want\nit - those who don't, nothing changes.\n\nEven ssh (via ssh-keygen) lets you specify the passphrase at\ncommand-run time. Others include htpasswd, htdigest...\n\n-- \nCheers,\nRay Chuan\n"},{"id":"133314","messageId":"1976ea661002012030h23aa415ek30aa6db23cb88d0e@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"22438","inReplyTo":"be6fef0d1002012015q2a10af1cq4c5e5f968039ee45@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)","fromName":"Frank Li","fromEmail":"lznuaa@gmail.com","sentAt":"2010-02-02T04:30:41Z","receivedAt":"2010-02-02T04:30:41Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"lznuaa@gmail.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/40642?v=4"},"body":"2010/2/2 Tay Ray Chuan :\n> Hi,\n>\n> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:04 PM, Frank Li wrote:\n>> I prefer git-svn can provide environment to launch a external\n>> application to input password like open ssh.\n>\n> how about users who are authenticating over http with basic and\n> digest? How does one go about launching an external app for password\n> input in those cases?\n\nThere are not problem if run git svn clone from console.\nBut a gui application, such tortoisegit, launch \"git svn clone\" and\ncapture git svn clone output.\nIf passwd needed, git svn clone will read character from console but\nGUI application don't know that and wait git svn output.\nSo there are dead lock till timeout and fail.\n\nThe same problem has been happen at ssh. But OpenSSH provide a\noption, environment SSH_ASKPASS, which point to a application. when\npasswd need, openssh launch this GUI application, user can input\npasswd at this GUI application.\n\nThe basic requirement is git svn can provide a way to prompt a dialog\nbox to input passwd.\n\nFrank Li\n"},{"id":"133324","messageId":"a362e8011002012237t640dd8b9sa1da0d221f5d03b6@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"22438","inReplyTo":"1976ea661002012030h23aa415ek30aa6db23cb88d0e@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)","fromName":"Laszlo Papp","fromEmail":"djszapi@archlinux.us","sentAt":"2010-02-02T06:37:38Z","receivedAt":"2010-02-02T06:37:38Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"djszapi@archlinux.us","avatar":null},"body":"> The basic requirement is git svn can provide a way to prompt a dialog\n> box to input passwd.\n\nYeah, it's a very basic use case, but I don't know whether there is a\nworkaround for it somehow, maybe perl gurus or git svn users could\nhelp more...\n\nMy company, where there are windows users (95% of the company), would\nlike to use TortoiseGIT as a graphical client for SVN server\nrepositories as an SVN client, no other way by us, so it'd be high\npriority :) So I've got a beer for any volunteer, thanks :P\n\nBest Regards,\nLaszlo Papp\n"},{"id":"133339","messageId":"20100202090538.GA28437@dcvr.yhbt.net","threadId":"22438","inReplyTo":"a362e8011002012237t640dd8b9sa1da0d221f5d03b6@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: Implement --password option for git svn perl script","fromName":"Eric Wong","fromEmail":"normalperson@yhbt.net","sentAt":"2010-02-02T09:05:38Z","receivedAt":"2010-02-02T09:05:38Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"e@80x24.org","avatar":null},"body":"Laszlo Papp wrote:\n> > The basic requirement is git svn can provide a way to prompt a dialog\n> > box to input passwd.\n> \n> Yeah, it's a very basic use case, but I don't know whether there is a\n> workaround for it somehow, maybe perl gurus or git svn users could\n> help more...\n> \n> My company, where there are windows users (95% of the company), would\n> like to use TortoiseGIT as a graphical client for SVN server\n> repositories as an SVN client, no other way by us, so it'd be high\n> priority :) So I've got a beer for any volunteer, thanks :P\n\nHi, (fixed subject so I don't mistake it for junk again)\n\nI don't know (and have no way to test) how to deal with input dialogs\nfor reading a password on Windows (nor any sort of IPC). Somebody else\nwill have to implement it.\n\nHaving a --password option in the command line could work, but it's\npainfully insecure if there's any way for another regular user to view\nthe process table. Not something I'd like to encourage...\n\nSince SVN already caches passwords in a mostly secure location on disk\n(at least on *nix), shouldn't git svn be able to use the password cache\nSVN uses?\n\n-- \nEric Wong\n"},{"id":"133341","messageId":"1976ea661002020118n2b86844k47a1064c028f439f@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"22438","inReplyTo":"20100202090538.GA28437@dcvr.yhbt.net","subject":"Re: Implement --password option for git svn perl script","fromName":"Frank Li","fromEmail":"lznuaa@gmail.com","sentAt":"2010-02-02T09:18:52Z","receivedAt":"2010-02-02T09:18:52Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"lznuaa@gmail.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/40642?v=4"},"body":"> Having a --password option in the command line could work, but it's\n> painfully insecure if there's any way for another regular user to view\n> the process table.  Not something I'd like to encourage...\n>\n\nYes, it is insecure. \"--password\" seam undocumented.\n\n> Since SVN already caches passwords in a mostly secure location on disk\n> (at least on *nix), shouldn't git svn be able to use the password cache\n> SVN uses?\n>\n> --\n> Eric Wong\n>\n"},{"id":"133352","messageId":"a362e8011002020516i5d5adcf7k6553d62e633cec88@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"22438","inReplyTo":"20100202090538.GA28437@dcvr.yhbt.net","subject":"Re: Implement --password option for git svn perl script","fromName":"Laszlo Papp","fromEmail":"djszapi@archlinux.us","sentAt":"2010-02-02T13:16:06Z","receivedAt":"2010-02-02T13:16:06Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"djszapi@archlinux.us","avatar":null},"body":"> Since SVN already caches passwords in a mostly secure location on disk\n> (at least on *nix), shouldn't git svn be able to use the password cache\n> SVN uses?\n\n@Frank Li\n@Eric Wong\n\nMaybe you can check whether how TortoiseSVN or SVN client code handle\nthis situation, because it's the same server, but 'just' the client\nside is different a little bit, but the same situation happen there in\ncase TortoiseSVN a popup menu appears when you try to authenticate\nyourself.\n\nSecond way is to ask on the SVN mailing list, how they use it, or\nmaybe I'm totally wrong with it :P\n\nBest Regards,\nLaszlo Papp\n"},{"id":"133422","messageId":"1976ea661002021547ue22909cy27009c1b8743ecd4@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"22438","inReplyTo":"a362e8011002020516i5d5adcf7k6553d62e633cec88@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: Implement --password option for git svn perl script","fromName":"Frank Li","fromEmail":"lznuaa@gmail.com","sentAt":"2010-02-02T23:47:13Z","receivedAt":"2010-02-02T23:47:13Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"lznuaa@gmail.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/40642?v=4"},"body":"Is it possible use OpenSSH method to let GUI to input passwd.\nenvironment SSH_ASKPASS, which point to a application. when\npasswd need, openssh launch this GUI application, user can input\npasswd at this GUI application.\n"},{"id":"133592","messageId":"a362e8011002032345i426d262uf26165320385efdf@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"22438","inReplyTo":"1976ea661002021547ue22909cy27009c1b8743ecd4@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: Implement --password option for git svn perl script","fromName":"Laszlo Papp","fromEmail":"djszapi@archlinux.us","sentAt":"2010-02-04T07:45:02Z","receivedAt":"2010-02-04T07:45:02Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"djszapi@archlinux.us","avatar":null},"body":"On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Frank Li wrote:\n> Is it possible use OpenSSH method to let GUI to input passwd.\n> environment SSH_ASKPASS, which point to a application. when\n> passwd need, openssh launch this GUI application,  user can input\n> passwd at this GUI application.\n>\n\nWhat do you mean ? Should I install TortoiseGIT with openssh client,\nso should I need to choose this option from the 2 facilities ?\n\nBest Regards,\nLaszlo Papp\n"},{"id":"133742","messageId":"4B6CA33B.8050200@googlemail.com","threadId":"22438","inReplyTo":"20100202090538.GA28437@dcvr.yhbt.net","subject":"Re: Implement --password option for git svn perl script","fromName":"Steve Diver","fromEmail":"squelch2@googlemail.com","sentAt":"2010-02-05T23:01:15Z","receivedAt":"2010-02-05T23:01:15Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"squelch2@googlemail.com","avatar":null},"body":"On 02/02/2010 09:05, Eric Wong wrote:\n>\n> Laszlo Papp wrote:\n>>> The basic requirement is git svn can provide a way to prompt a dialog\n>>> box to input passwd.\n>>\n>> Yeah, it's a very basic use case, but I don't know whether there is a\n>> workaround for it somehow, maybe perl gurus or git svn users could\n>> help more...\n>>\n>> My company, where there are windows users (95% of the company), would\n>> like to use TortoiseGIT as a graphical client for SVN server\n>> repositories as an SVN client, no other way by us, so it'd be high\n>> priority :) So I've got a beer for any volunteer, thanks :P\n>\n> Hi, (fixed subject so I don't mistake it for junk again)\n>\n> I don't know (and have no way to test) how to deal with input dialogs\n> for reading a password on Windows (nor any sort of IPC). Somebody else\n> will have to implement it.\n>\n> Having a --password option in the command line could work, but it's\n> painfully insecure if there's any way for another regular user to view\n> the process table. Not something I'd like to encourage...\n>\n> Since SVN already caches passwords in a mostly secure location on disk\n> (at least on *nix), shouldn't git svn be able to use the password cache\n> SVN uses?\n>\n\nTortoise, along with at least one other Windows GUI utilizes the Putty \nsuite as a helper app for key chain and password handling, and needs to \nbe loaded prior to any SSH operations. Tortoise have gone so far as to \nrewrite plink (Tortoiseplink.exe)so that that a prompt for the password \nis given, but this is undocumented AFAIK.\n\nOtherwise, it is an unfortunate fact that a DOS console session is \ninvoked whenever openSSH is used. For the average Windows user this is a \nscary occurrence, and is one of the obstacles that prevents wider casual \ntake up of Git on Windows IMHO.\n\nI understand that it comes down to a problem with communication between \na dialogue and an SSH client via STDOUT. I believe Dscho might have some \ninsight into this as it is a recurrent topic on the MsysGit tracker.\n\nSteve\n"},{"id":"133912","messageId":"a362e8011002072229v2036194elb39e123e3a1c6792@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"22438","inReplyTo":"4B6CA33B.8050200@googlemail.com","subject":"Re: Implement --password option for git svn perl script","fromName":"Laszlo Papp","fromEmail":"djszapi@archlinux.us","sentAt":"2010-02-08T06:29:17Z","receivedAt":"2010-02-08T06:29:17Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"djszapi@archlinux.us","avatar":null},"body":"Any workflow in this task ? :((\n\nBest Regards,\nLaszlo Papp\n"}]}