{"thread":{"id":"21330","subject":"requesting info page (and pdf) doc releases","startedAt":"2009-10-22T20:41:06Z","lastAt":"2009-10-23T19:22:12Z","messageCount":5,"participants":["Sebastian Pipping","Rustom Mody","Michael J Gruber","Junio C Hamano"],"isPatch":false,"patchVersion":null,"patchTotal":null},"messages":[{"id":"125736","messageId":"4AE0C362.3030900@gentoo.org","threadId":"21330","inReplyTo":null,"subject":"requesting info page (and pdf) doc releases","fromName":"Sebastian Pipping","fromEmail":"sping@gentoo.org","sentAt":"2009-10-22T20:41:06Z","receivedAt":"2009-10-22T20:41:06Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"sping@gentoo.org","avatar":null},"body":"hi there!\n\n\nwould be nice to get info pages (and pdf) doc releases in addition to\nhtml and man pages. i imagine such a change to the release machine\nshould not be too hard to integrate. we could use it in gentoo.\n\nthanks,\n\n\n\nsebastian\n"},{"id":"125751","messageId":"f46c52560910221513w1cb19949lfa05ef964987d809@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"21330","inReplyTo":"4AE0C362.3030900@gentoo.org","subject":"Re: requesting info page (and pdf) doc releases","fromName":"Rustom Mody","fromEmail":"rustompmody@gmail.com","sentAt":"2009-10-22T22:13:30Z","receivedAt":"2009-10-22T22:13:30Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"rustompmody@gmail.com","avatar":null},"body":"On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 2:11 AM, Sebastian Pipping wrote:\n>\n> hi there!\n>\n>\n> would be nice to get info pages (and pdf) doc releases in addition to\n> html and man pages.  i imagine such a change to the release machine\n> should not be too hard to integrate.  we could use it in gentoo.\n>\n> thanks,\n>\n>\n>\n> sebastian\n\n+1\nWhy only gentoo? I would use it on ubuntu or windows as well\n"},{"id":"125781","messageId":"4AE16BDE.1000103@drmicha.warpmail.net","threadId":"21330","inReplyTo":"f46c52560910221513w1cb19949lfa05ef964987d809@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: requesting info page (and pdf) doc releases","fromName":"Michael J Gruber","fromEmail":"git@drmicha.warpmail.net","sentAt":"2009-10-23T08:39:58Z","receivedAt":"2009-10-23T08:39:58Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"git@grubix.eu","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/233215?v=4"},"body":"Rustom Mody venit, vidit, dixit 23.10.2009 00:13:\n> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 2:11 AM, Sebastian Pipping wrote:\n>>\n>> hi there!\n>>\n>>\n>> would be nice to get info pages (and pdf) doc releases in addition to\n>> html and man pages. i imagine such a change to the release machine\n>> should not be too hard to integrate. we could use it in gentoo.\n>>\n>> thanks,\n>>\n>>\n>>\n>> sebastian\n> \n> +1\n> Why only gentoo? I would use it on ubuntu or windows as well\n\nBecause they don't build from source!? ;)\n\nMichael\n"},{"id":"125797","messageId":"7vtyxqaqg5.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org","threadId":"21330","inReplyTo":"f46c52560910221513w1cb19949lfa05ef964987d809@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: requesting info page (and pdf) doc releases","fromName":"Junio C Hamano","fromEmail":"gitster@pobox.com","sentAt":"2009-10-23T18:57:30Z","receivedAt":"2009-10-23T18:57:30Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"gitster@pobox.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/54884?v=4"},"body":"Rustom Mody writes:\n\n> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 2:11 AM, Sebastian Pipping wrote:\n>>\n>> would be nice to get info pages (and pdf) doc releases in addition to\n>> html and man pages. i imagine such a change to the release machine\n>> should not be too hard to integrate. we could use it in gentoo.\n>\n> +1\n> Why only gentoo? I would use it on ubuntu or windows as well\n\nAs I understand it, Gentoo is supposed to build everything from the source\nanyway, you would not want to use pregenerated info nor pdf, no? You\nshouldn't be using pregenerated html nor man for that matter...\n\nFWIW, you can already say \"make info\" and \"make pdf\" yourselves if you\nhave necessary toolchains installed. Integration is not an issue.\n\nNeither my primary development box (Debian, which I would test before\npushing things out) nor the machine at k.org I use for the final sanity\ncheck (FC11, on which the documents are automatically generated) has\ndblatex nor docbook2x installed. I am not particularly enthused about\ninstalling a lot of dependencies for these packages on my machine. I do\nnot want to bother k.org admins who are already overloaded to install\nthese on their machines either.\n"},{"id":"125801","messageId":"4AE20264.2060207@gentoo.org","threadId":"21330","inReplyTo":"7vtyxqaqg5.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org","subject":"Re: requesting info page (and pdf) doc releases","fromName":"Sebastian Pipping","fromEmail":"sping@gentoo.org","sentAt":"2009-10-23T19:22:12Z","receivedAt":"2009-10-23T19:22:12Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"sping@gentoo.org","avatar":null},"body":"Junio C Hamano wrote:\n> Rustom Mody writes:\n> \n>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 2:11 AM, Sebastian Pipping wrote:\n>>> would be nice to get info pages (and pdf) doc releases in addition to\n>>> html and man pages. i imagine such a change to the release machine\n>>> should not be too hard to integrate. we could use it in gentoo.\n>> +1\n>> Why only gentoo? I would use it on ubuntu or windows as well\n> \n> As I understand it, Gentoo is supposed to build everything from the source\n> anyway, you would not want to use pregenerated info nor pdf, no? You\n> shouldn't be using pregenerated html nor man for that matter...\n\nWith \"compiling\" documentation things are a bit different.\nSimplified, in contrast to source code compiling documentation leads to\nthe same results on all machines while sources produces lots of\ndifferent results depending on the configuration of the machine (\"use\nflags\", compile flags, versions of linked libraries, ..) which differ\nheavily from one machine to another.\n\nGenerating documentation downstream means more dependencies for us\nwithout any advantages that I would be aware of. In case of dblatex the\ndependencies get quite extreme actually :-) So we thought why not just\nask for it if you provide similar things already.\n\n\n> FWIW, you can already say \"make info\" and \"make pdf\" yourselves if you\n> have necessary toolchains installed. Integration is not an issue.\n\nWe use make info at the moment. (On a sidenote I hope you get it\nworking with the latest asciidoc again. See my earlier mail on this list.)\n\n\n> Neither my primary development box (Debian, which I would test before\n> pushing things out) nor the machine at k.org I use for the final sanity\n> check (FC11, on which the documents are automatically generated) has\n> dblatex nor docbook2x installed. I am not particularly enthused about\n> installing a lot of dependencies for these packages on my machine. I do\n> not want to bother k.org admins who are already overloaded to install\n> these on their machines either.\n\nI see, thanks for your explanation.\n\n\n\nSebastian\n"}]}