{"thread":{"id":"18351","subject":"Re: .gitk should created hidden in windows","startedAt":"2009-03-17T15:56:40Z","lastAt":"2009-03-17T16:35:21Z","messageCount":4,"participants":["John Dlugosz","Steve Wagner"],"isPatch":false,"patchVersion":null,"patchTotal":null},"messages":[{"id":"108242","messageId":"450196A1AAAE4B42A00A8B27A59278E70A2AF295@EXCHANGE.trad.tradestation.com","threadId":"18351","inReplyTo":null,"subject":"Re: .gitk should created hidden in windows","fromName":"John Dlugosz","fromEmail":"jdlugosz@tradestation.com","sentAt":"2009-03-17T15:56:40Z","receivedAt":"2009-03-17T15:56:40Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"jdlugosz@tradestation.com","avatar":null},"body":"=== Re: ===\nThe problem is that windows dose not hides files beginning with a dot as\nit is in unix. So the .gitk file is created as visible in the windows\nuser profile. Problematic too is that i can no set the hidden attribute\nto this file, because it is recreated every time i start gitk, so the\nhidden attribute gets lost.\n=== end ===\n\nI didn't even notice that file, and I use gitk all the time.  That\ndirectory it put it in, the \"top level\" user directory based on profile,\nis not something that is directly examined by most users.  It is\nprobably used as roughly equivalent to the home directory under Unix,\nbut is not exactly---Windows has separate defined locations for\nprograms's settings, user documents, and desktop among others.  I think\nthis file properly belongs in %APPDATA%, which is a hidden directory.\nThe stuff in that directory is not itself hidden.\n\nThat is, use the APPDATA environment variable to locate the file, rather\nthan the HOME environment variable.\n\n--John\n\n\n\n\nTradeStation Group, Inc. is a publicly-traded holding company (NASDAQ GS: TRAD) of three operating subsidiaries, TradeStation Securities, Inc. (Member NYSE, FINRA, SIPC and NFA), TradeStation Technologies, Inc., a trading software and subscription company, and TradeStation Europe Limited, a United Kingdom, FSA-authorized introducing brokerage firm. None of these companies provides trading or investment advice, recommendations or endorsements of any kind. The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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That\n> directory it put it in, the \"top level\" user directory based on profile,\n> is not something that is directly examined by most users.\n\nThis is true for XP and before, but in Vista, 2008 and Windows 7 the\nuser have directly access to the user profile directory (simply click on\nthe username in startmenue) and can see the .gitk file.\n\nSteve\n\nJohn Dlugosz schrieb:\n> === Re: ===\n> The problem is that windows dose not hides files beginning with a dot as\n> it is in unix. So the .gitk file is created as visible in the windows\n> user profile. Problematic too is that i can no set the hidden attribute\n> to this file, because it is recreated every time i start gitk, so the\n> hidden attribute gets lost.\n> === end ===\n> \n> I didn't even notice that file, and I use gitk all the time.  That\n> directory it put it in, the \"top level\" user directory based on profile,\n> is not something that is directly examined by most users.  It is\n> probably used as roughly equivalent to the home directory under Unix,\n> but is not exactly---Windows has separate defined locations for\n> programs's settings, user documents, and desktop among others.  I think\n> this file properly belongs in %APPDATA%, which is a hidden directory.\n> The stuff in that directory is not itself hidden.\n> \n> That is, use the APPDATA environment variable to locate the file, rather\n> than the HOME environment variable.\n> \n> --John\n> \n> \n> \n> \n> TradeStation Group, Inc. is a publicly-traded holding company (NASDAQ GS: TRAD) of three operating subsidiaries, TradeStation Securities, Inc. (Member NYSE, FINRA, SIPC and NFA), TradeStation Technologies, Inc., a trading software and subscription company, and TradeStation Europe Limited, a United Kingdom, FSA-authorized introducing brokerage firm. None of these companies provides trading or investment advice, recommendations or endorsements of any kind. The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibite\n d. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer.\n> \n"},{"id":"108247","messageId":"450196A1AAAE4B42A00A8B27A59278E70A3FC063@EXCHANGE.trad.tradestation.com","threadId":"18351","inReplyTo":"49BFCA68.2080800@lanwin.de","subject":"RE: .gitk should created hidden in windows","fromName":"John Dlugosz","fromEmail":"jdlugosz@tradestation.com","sentAt":"2009-03-17T16:11:31Z","receivedAt":"2009-03-17T16:11:31Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"jdlugosz@tradestation.com","avatar":null},"body":"> This is true for XP and before, but in Vista, 2008 and Windows 7 the\n> user have directly access to the user profile directory (simply click\n> on\n> the username in startmenue) and can see the .gitk file.\n> \n> Steve\n\nYes, I was thinking that I was confronted by these things more in Vista\non a desktop, but can't remember exactly.  A lot of the directories are\nsymbolic links that can't be clicked!  I'm running Windows 2003 which I\nthink is based on the Vista core, but doesn't have the flashy UI candy,\nfor servers.\n\nBut, you would not see more clutter if it was in the place where your\nAPPDATA environment variable points, right?\n\n--John\n\nTradeStation Group, Inc. is a publicly-traded holding company (NASDAQ GS: TRAD) of three operating subsidiaries, TradeStation Securities, Inc. (Member NYSE, FINRA, SIPC and NFA), TradeStation Technologies, Inc., a trading software and subscription company, and TradeStation Europe Limited, a United Kingdom, FSA-authorized introducing brokerage firm. None of these companies provides trading or investment advice, recommendations or endorsements of any kind. The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited.\n  If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer.\n"},{"id":"108254","messageId":"49BFD149.1080707@lanwin.de","threadId":"18351","inReplyTo":"450196A1AAAE4B42A00A8B27A59278E70A3FC063@EXCHANGE.trad.tradestation.com","subject":"Re: .gitk should created hidden in windows","fromName":"Steve Wagner","fromEmail":"lists@lanwin.de","sentAt":"2009-03-17T16:35:21Z","receivedAt":"2009-03-17T16:35:21Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"lists@lanwin.de","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/4d3054dadf5236f339037d2dcd0f8ab9ab05cce11d61b92ac5b5f89547dcb5a7?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"John Dlugosz schrieb:\n> Yes, I was thinking that I was confronted by these things more in Vista\n> on a desktop, but can't remember exactly.  A lot of the directories are\n> symbolic links that can't be clicked!  I'm running Windows 2003 which I\n> think is based on the Vista core, but doesn't have the flashy UI candy,\n> for servers.\n\nAs far as is know, 2003 is based on xp and the this large amount of\nsymbolic links are only there to dont break bad develop applications\nwhich are not using variables like APPDATA.\n\n> But, you would not see more clutter if it was in the place where your\n> APPDATA environment variable points, right?\n\nYes this is the better approach on windows, but since it is only one\nfile, it would be ok to leave it there and make it hidden.\n\nSteve\n"}]}