{"thread":{"id":"18240","subject":"Google Summer of Code 2009 - Organization Application","startedAt":"2009-03-10T00:16:13Z","lastAt":"2009-03-22T22:01:56Z","messageCount":14,"participants":["Shawn O. Pearce","Jakub Narebski","Christian Couder","Sverre Rabbelier","Johannes Schindelin","Scott Chacon","Sam Vilain"],"isPatch":false,"patchVersion":null,"patchTotal":null},"messages":[{"id":"107528","messageId":"20090310001613.GL11989@spearce.org","threadId":"18240","inReplyTo":null,"subject":"Google Summer of Code 2009 - Organization Application","fromName":"Shawn O. Pearce","fromEmail":"spearce@spearce.org","sentAt":"2009-03-10T00:16:13Z","receivedAt":"2009-03-10T00:16:13Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"spearce@spearce.org","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/34844?v=4"},"body":"Folks, its that time of year again. We need to apply to be a\nmentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2009.\n\nDeadline is this Friday around noon PST.\n\nI have updated the application document on the wiki with the\ncurrent questions and more up-to-date answers:\n\n http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/SoC2009Application\n\nPlease make any comments in the next day or so, so that we can\naddress them and have time to upload the completed application\nbefore their cut-off deadline.\n\n-- \nShawn.\n"},{"id":"107571","messageId":"m31vt5im3j.fsf@localhost.localdomain","threadId":"18240","inReplyTo":"20090310001613.GL11989@spearce.org","subject":"Re: Google Summer of Code 2009 - Organization Application","fromName":"Jakub Narebski","fromEmail":"jnareb@gmail.com","sentAt":"2009-03-10T12:42:19Z","receivedAt":"2009-03-10T12:42:19Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"jnareb@gmail.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/2706?v=4"},"body":"\"Shawn O. Pearce\" writes:\n\n> Folks, its that time of year again. We need to apply to be a\n> mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2009.\n> \n> Deadline is this Friday around noon PST.\n> \n> I have updated the application document on the wiki with the\n> current questions and more up-to-date answers:\n> \n> http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/SoC2009Application\n> \n> Please make any comments in the next day or so, so that we can\n> address them and have time to upload the completed application\n> before their cut-off deadline.\n\nThank you very much for your efforts wrt Google Summers of Code.\n\nAbout SoC2009Application: why it refers to SoC2008Template?\n-- \nJakub Narebski\nPoland\nShadeHawk on #git\n"},{"id":"107577","messageId":"20090310142421.GN11989@spearce.org","threadId":"18240","inReplyTo":"m31vt5im3j.fsf@localhost.localdomain","subject":"Re: Google Summer of Code 2009 - Organization Application","fromName":"Shawn O. Pearce","fromEmail":"spearce@spearce.org","sentAt":"2009-03-10T14:24:21Z","receivedAt":"2009-03-10T14:24:21Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"spearce@spearce.org","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/34844?v=4"},"body":"Jakub Narebski wrote:\n> \"Shawn O. Pearce\" writes:\n> \n> > http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/SoC2009Application\n> \n> About SoC2009Application: why it refers to SoC2008Template?\n\nBecause the template hasn't changed for 2009?\n\n-- \nShawn.\n"},{"id":"108338","messageId":"200903180651.33381.chriscool@tuxfamily.org","threadId":"18240","inReplyTo":"20090310001613.GL11989@spearce.org","subject":"GitTogether '09","fromName":"Christian Couder","fromEmail":"chriscool@tuxfamily.org","sentAt":"2009-03-18T05:51:33Z","receivedAt":"2009-03-18T05:51:33Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"christian.couder@gmail.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/208954?v=4"},"body":"Le mardi 10 mars 2009, Shawn O. Pearce a écrit :\n> Folks, its that time of year again. We need to apply to be a\n> mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2009.\n\nMaybe we could also start discussing GitTogether '09 location and date.\n\nI have added a GitTogether '09 heading to the wiki page and a few location \nand date ideas:\n\nhttp://git.or.cz/gitwiki/GitTogether\n\nThe location and dates are:\n\n * San Francisco in October, just after the Google Summer of Code Mentor\n\n * Portland Oregon in September, during or after LinuxCon \n(http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/linuxcon) and/or Linux Plumbers \nConference (http://linuxplumbersconf.org/)\n\nBest regards,\nChristian.\n"},{"id":"108344","messageId":"fabb9a1e0903172346j74b9992r1b0a8d6eb523103c@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"18240","inReplyTo":"200903180651.33381.chriscool@tuxfamily.org","subject":"Re: GitTogether '09","fromName":"Sverre Rabbelier","fromEmail":"srabbelier@gmail.com","sentAt":"2009-03-18T06:46:55Z","receivedAt":"2009-03-18T06:46:55Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"srabbelier@gmail.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/3098?v=4"},"body":"Heya,\n\nOn Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 06:51, Christian Couder wrote:\n>  * San Francisco in October, just after the Google Summer of Code Mentor\n\nConsidering that (assuming git is accepted as mentoring organization)\nwe can ask Google for 2 airplane tickets, I'm voting for this option\n;).\n\n-- \nCheers,\n\nSverre Rabbelier\n"},{"id":"108347","messageId":"200903180805.32440.chriscool@tuxfamily.org","threadId":"18240","inReplyTo":"fabb9a1e0903172346j74b9992r1b0a8d6eb523103c@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: GitTogether '09","fromName":"Christian Couder","fromEmail":"chriscool@tuxfamily.org","sentAt":"2009-03-18T07:05:32Z","receivedAt":"2009-03-18T07:05:32Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"christian.couder@gmail.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/208954?v=4"},"body":"Le mercredi 18 mars 2009, Sverre Rabbelier a écrit :\n> Heya,\n>\n> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 06:51, Christian Couder \nwrote:\n> >  * San Francisco in October, just after the Google Summer of Code\n> > Mentor\n>\n> Considering that (assuming git is accepted as mentoring organization)\n> we can ask Google for 2 airplane tickets, I'm voting for this option\n> ;).\n\nI thought that it was only one international airplane ticket last year, \nexcept perhaps when there are no US based mentor. And we are not sure that \nGoogle or another company in the Bay Area will be able to host us this \nyear. So the cost of hosting the GitTogether might be higher than the cost \nof a few airplane tickets.\n\nRegards,\nChristian.\n"},{"id":"108360","messageId":"fabb9a1e0903180254u5569e9f5u5e1aa43fa2d1d178@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"18240","inReplyTo":"200903180805.32440.chriscool@tuxfamily.org","subject":"Re: GitTogether '09","fromName":"Sverre Rabbelier","fromEmail":"srabbelier@gmail.com","sentAt":"2009-03-18T09:54:49Z","receivedAt":"2009-03-18T09:54:49Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"srabbelier@gmail.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/3098?v=4"},"body":"Heya,\n\nOn Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 08:05, Christian Couder wrote:\n> I thought that it was only one international airplane ticket last year,\n> except perhaps when there are no US based mentor. And we are not sure that\n> Google or another company in the Bay Area will be able to host us this\n> year. So the cost of hosting the GitTogether might be higher than the cost\n> of a few airplane tickets.\n\nLast year Google provided two international airplane tickets and was\nable to host us, we can at least ask them to host us again this year\n(if that is what we decide on).\nShawn, how likely is it that Google will provide hosting for another\nGitTogether this year?\n\n-- \nCheers,\n\nSverre Rabbelier\n"},{"id":"108372","messageId":"20090318143532.GD23521@spearce.org","threadId":"18240","inReplyTo":"fabb9a1e0903180254u5569e9f5u5e1aa43fa2d1d178@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: GitTogether '09","fromName":"Shawn O. Pearce","fromEmail":"spearce@spearce.org","sentAt":"2009-03-18T14:35:32Z","receivedAt":"2009-03-18T14:35:32Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"spearce@spearce.org","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/34844?v=4"},"body":"Sverre Rabbelier wrote:\n> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 08:05, Christian Couder wrote:\n> > I thought that it was only one international airplane ticket last year,\n> > except perhaps when there are no US based mentor. And we are not sure that\n> > Google or another company in the Bay Area will be able to host us this\n> > year. So the cost of hosting the GitTogether might be higher than the cost\n> > of a few airplane tickets.\n> \n> Last year Google provided two international airplane tickets and was\n> able to host us, we can at least ask them to host us again this year\n> (if that is what we decide on).\n\nDid Google do two international tickets last year for Git? Hmm,\ndon't go spreading that word around. Very few groups got that\namount of travel money for the mentor summit. Maybe none others.\n\nIMHO, _if_ Git is accepted this year, and _if_ the mentor summit is\nheld this fall as it has been in the past, Google will most likely\ncover only one ticket, especially if we actually also supported a\nGitTogether immediately after.\n\n> Shawn, how likely is it that Google will provide hosting for another\n> GitTogether this year?\n\nI will ask.\n\nLast year it was difficult on LH. Despite the fact that most of\nthe attendees probably never even met her, she put a lot of work\ninto the GitTogether behind the scenes. Without her efforts,\nthe GitTogether simply would not have happened here.\n\nIt was also *immediately* after the biggest event of the year\nthat she and her team run (GSoC mentor summit), and really close\nto two other very big events that they run. They were working\npretty much 7 days a week for over 3 months straight, and were\nreally looking forward to some time off when I threw GitTogether\n'08 into their calendar.\n\nI'm not sure I can ask LH to put her and her team through that again.\nI want to continue living. :-)\n\nThere is also the most popular issue of budgets. GitTogether '08\nwasn't free for us. Its cheaper than anything we would get from a\nconference venue/hotel outside the Googleplex, but it still was a\nnon-trivial sum. We simply may not have the funds for it this year.\n\n-- \nShawn.\n"},{"id":"108373","messageId":"alpine.DEB.1.00.0903181551380.10279@pacific.mpi-cbg.de","threadId":"18240","inReplyTo":"20090318143532.GD23521@spearce.org","subject":"Re: GitTogether '09","fromName":"Johannes Schindelin","fromEmail":"johannes.schindelin@gmx.de","sentAt":"2009-03-18T14:53:09Z","receivedAt":"2009-03-18T14:53:09Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"johannes.schindelin@gmx.de","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/127790?v=4"},"body":"Hi,\n\nOn Wed, 18 Mar 2009, Shawn O. Pearce wrote:\n\n> Sverre Rabbelier wrote:\n> > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 08:05, Christian Couder wrote:\n> > > I thought that it was only one international airplane ticket last \n> > > year, except perhaps when there are no US based mentor. And we are \n> > > not sure that Google or another company in the Bay Area will be able \n> > > to host us this year. So the cost of hosting the GitTogether might \n> > > be higher than the cost of a few airplane tickets.\n> > \n> > Last year Google provided two international airplane tickets and was \n> > able to host us, we can at least ask them to host us again this year \n> > (if that is what we decide on).\n> \n> Did Google do two international tickets last year for Git?\n\nI do not think so. Mugwump got the international airplane ticket, AFAIR, \nand warthog the local \"ticket\".\n\nCiao,\nDscho\n"},{"id":"108378","messageId":"20090318155532.GE23521@spearce.org","threadId":"18240","inReplyTo":"alpine.DEB.1.00.0903181551380.10279@pacific.mpi-cbg.de","subject":"Re: GitTogether '09","fromName":"Shawn O. Pearce","fromEmail":"spearce@spearce.org","sentAt":"2009-03-18T15:55:32Z","receivedAt":"2009-03-18T15:55:32Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"spearce@spearce.org","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/34844?v=4"},"body":"Johannes Schindelin wrote:\n> On Wed, 18 Mar 2009, Shawn O. Pearce wrote:\n> > \n> > Did Google do two international tickets last year for Git?\n> \n> I do not think so. Mugwump got the international airplane ticket, AFAIR, \n> and warthog the local \"ticket\".\n\nOh, so it was two tickets.\n\nMugwump and Sverre flew on Google's dime. The reason Sverre was\ninvited was his already heavy involvement with Melange.\n\nGoogle initially asked me to spend our international ticket on\nSverre only, but I talked them into including Mugwump too once I\npointed out Sverre was attending for Google's own selfish reasons\n(Melange) and not to represent Git.\n\nwarthog9 is a local. Local mentors were accepted en-masse near\nthe end of registration when a lot of orgs had open mentor slots.\n\nYou flew on your own dime. I'm local. David also managed to fly\non Google's dime, but out of his manager's business travel budget\nand not the Summer of Code budget.\n\n-- \nShawn.\n"},{"id":"108381","messageId":"d411cc4a0903180905x1cb2a1c2j87922300dbf77e7b@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"18240","inReplyTo":"20090318143532.GD23521@spearce.org","subject":"Re: GitTogether '09","fromName":"Scott Chacon","fromEmail":"schacon@gmail.com","sentAt":"2009-03-18T16:05:29Z","receivedAt":"2009-03-18T16:05:29Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"schacon@gmail.com","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/9b13a8a078e1dcf8588c4eea9554445d51ebed6c41b51f56f4d96738130b05c6?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"Hey,\n\nOn Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 7:35 AM, Shawn O. Pearce wrote:\n> Sverre Rabbelier wrote:\n>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 08:05, Christian Couder wrote:\n>> > I thought that it was only one international airplane ticket last year,\n>> > except perhaps when there are no US based mentor. And we are not sure that\n>> > Google or another company in the Bay Area will be able to host us this\n>> > year. So the cost of hosting the GitTogether might be higher than the cost\n>> > of a few airplane tickets.\n>>\n>> Last year Google provided two international airplane tickets and was\n>> able to host us, we can at least ask them to host us again this year\n>> (if that is what we decide on).\n>\n> Did Google do two international tickets last year for Git?  Hmm,\n> don't go spreading that word around.  Very few groups got that\n> amount of travel money for the mentor summit.  Maybe none others.\n>\n> IMHO, _if_ Git is accepted this year, and _if_ the mentor summit is\n> held this fall as it has been in the past, Google will most likely\n> cover only one ticket, especially if we actually also supported a\n> GitTogether immediately after.\n>\n>> Shawn, how likely is it that Google will provide hosting for another\n>> GitTogether this year?\n>\n> I will ask.\n>\n> Last year it was difficult on LH.  Despite the fact that most of\n> the attendees probably never even met her, she put a lot of work\n> into the GitTogether behind the scenes.  Without her efforts,\n> the GitTogether simply would not have happened here.\n>\n> It was also *immediately* after the biggest event of the year\n> that she and her team run (GSoC mentor summit), and really close\n> to two other very big events that they run.  They were working\n> pretty much 7 days a week for over 3 months straight, and were\n> really looking forward to some time off when I threw GitTogether\n> '08 into their calendar.\n>\n> I'm not sure I can ask LH to put her and her team through that again.\n> I want to continue living.  :-)\n>\n> There is also the most popular issue of budgets.  GitTogether '08\n> wasn't free for us.  Its cheaper than anything we would get from a\n> conference venue/hotel outside the Googleplex, but it still was a\n> non-trivial sum.  We simply may not have the funds for it this year.\n\nLet me know if I can help out at all. If Google doesn't want to host\nit, but everyone still wants to string together the GSOC summit and\nthis, I'm sure GitHub can find a nice venue for us and get some food\nand whatnot. Or, if we can simply 'sponsor' it or something - give\nthe Goog money to host it for us, however that might work. We want to\nhelp this happen again this year, so keep me in the loop and we can\nmake sure it gets handled somehow.\n\nScott\n\n>\n> --\n> Shawn.\n> --\n> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line \"unsubscribe git\" in\n> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org\n> More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html\n>\n"},{"id":"108382","messageId":"20090318161118.GG23521@spearce.org","threadId":"18240","inReplyTo":"d411cc4a0903180905x1cb2a1c2j87922300dbf77e7b@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: GitTogether '09","fromName":"Shawn O. Pearce","fromEmail":"spearce@spearce.org","sentAt":"2009-03-18T16:11:18Z","receivedAt":"2009-03-18T16:11:18Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"spearce@spearce.org","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/34844?v=4"},"body":"Scott Chacon wrote:\n> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 7:35 AM, Shawn O. Pearce wrote:\n> > There is also the most popular issue of budgets. ??GitTogether '08\n> > wasn't free for us. ??Its cheaper than anything we would get from a\n> > conference venue/hotel outside the Googleplex, but it still was a\n> > non-trivial sum. ??We simply may not have the funds for it this year.\n> \n> Let me know if I can help out at all. If Google doesn't want to host\n> it, but everyone still wants to string together the GSOC summit and\n> this, I'm sure GitHub can find a nice venue for us and get some food\n> and whatnot. Or, if we can simply 'sponsor' it or something - give\n> the Goog money to host it for us, however that might work. We want to\n> help this happen again this year, so keep me in the loop and we can\n> make sure it gets handled somehow.\n\nHey Scott, thanks. FWIW, Google doesn't co-sponsor events. So if we\ndo host it, we'll cover everything like we did last year, but maybe\nGitHub can sponsor an off-site dinner again, like it did last year.\nBut perhaps this year you guys could select the venue for that. :-)\n\nAnyway, today is not the best day to go asking for budget and time\nfrom LH (big GSoC announcement today). Give me a week or two to\nfigure out if Google can host us here or in Portland. FWIW, last\nyear Portland around the Linux Plumbers conference was tossed out\nas an option, but it was too close calendar wise to be possible\nfor planning purposes.\n\n-- \nShawn.\n"},{"id":"108941","messageId":"49C6B4E6.8030000@vilain.net","threadId":"18240","inReplyTo":"alpine.DEB.1.00.0903181551380.10279@pacific.mpi-cbg.de","subject":"Re: [Gittogether] Re: GitTogether '09","fromName":"Sam Vilain","fromEmail":"sam@vilain.net","sentAt":"2009-03-22T22:00:06Z","receivedAt":"2009-03-22T22:00:06Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"sam@vilain.net","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/8fc840ca854dbf6f7065b4335e3b934951c1dca3b11db688e95e471901f8f4a8?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"Johannes Schindelin wrote:\n>>> Last year Google provided two international airplane tickets and was \n>>> able to host us, we can at least ask them to host us again this year \n>>> (if that is what we decide on).\n>>> \n>> Did Google do two international tickets last year for Git?\n>> \n>\n> I do not think so. Mugwump got the international airplane ticket, AFAIR, \n> and warthog the local \"ticket\".\n> \n\nRight, and we decided to give Christian back his air fare with some of\nthe Mentor treasure, so that was the second international ticket\nessentially paid by Google.\n\nSpeaking of spoils, I'm now on Vendor number 3 for the T-Shirts which\nare apparently in a print queue now. It's a depressing that it's now\nlonger since the conference than til the next one :(\n\nI'll be contacting everyone off-line asking for their size requirements\nand following up those who didn't send me addresses yet..\n\nSam.\n"},{"id":"108944","messageId":"49C6B554.10806@vilain.net","threadId":"18240","inReplyTo":"49C6B4E6.8030000@vilain.net","subject":"Re: [Gittogether] Re: GitTogether '09","fromName":"Sam Vilain","fromEmail":"sam@vilain.net","sentAt":"2009-03-22T22:01:56Z","receivedAt":"2009-03-22T22:01:56Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"sam@vilain.net","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/8fc840ca854dbf6f7065b4335e3b934951c1dca3b11db688e95e471901f8f4a8?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"Sam Vilain wrote:\n> I'll be contacting everyone off-line asking for their size requirements\n\nI meant off-list, clearly :-)\n\nSam.\n"}]}