{"thread":{"id":"17375","subject":"Hosting from Windows XP.","startedAt":"2009-01-26T16:27:50Z","lastAt":"2009-01-27T18:24:53Z","messageCount":10,"participants":["Tim Visher","Shawn O. Pearce","Johannes Schindelin","Jakub Narebski","Tay Ray Chuan","Johannes Gilger"],"isPatch":false,"patchVersion":null,"patchTotal":null},"messages":[{"id":"102000","messageId":"c115fd3c0901260827ge5e4b29w871b345da2373f6b@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"17375","inReplyTo":null,"subject":"Hosting from Windows XP.","fromName":"Tim Visher","fromEmail":"tim.visher@gmail.com","sentAt":"2009-01-26T16:27:50Z","receivedAt":"2009-01-26T16:27:50Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"tim.visher@gmail.com","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/98307ce54bcac1a46b5d845827d5386e2a27895ff08790cdd3877ad527760575?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"Hello Everyone,\n\nI'm trying to get git set up for my company. We're stuck using\nWindows for the foreseeable future so for now I have to host the\ncentral integration repository out of a Windows box. I figured the\neasiest way to do this, short of installing cygwin, would be to do a\nsimple msysgit install and then run git daemon with the relevant repo\ncopied over onto the server. Then devs could track that repo.\nHowever, it appears that msysgit does not install git daemon.\n\nI may totally be missing something here, but I don't know what. Short\nof the question is, how do I host a repo out of Windows?\n\nThanks in advance!\n\n-- \n\nIn Christ,\n\nTimmy V.\n\nhttp://burningones.com/\nhttp://five.sentenc.es/ - Spend less time on e-mail\n"},{"id":"102002","messageId":"20090126163124.GA31810@spearce.org","threadId":"17375","inReplyTo":"c115fd3c0901260827ge5e4b29w871b345da2373f6b@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: Hosting from Windows XP.","fromName":"Shawn O. Pearce","fromEmail":"spearce@spearce.org","sentAt":"2009-01-26T16:31:24Z","receivedAt":"2009-01-26T16:31:24Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"spearce@spearce.org","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/34844?v=4"},"body":"Tim Visher wrote:\n> I'm trying to get git set up for my company. We're stuck using\n> Windows for the foreseeable future so for now I have to host the\n> central integration repository out of a Windows box. I figured the\n> easiest way to do this, short of installing cygwin, would be to do a\n> simple msysgit install and then run git daemon with the relevant repo\n> copied over onto the server. Then devs could track that repo.\n> However, it appears that msysgit does not install git daemon.\n\ngit-daemon isn't ported yet, due to its heavy reliance on POSIX\nbehavior during fork+exec.\n \n> I may totally be missing something here, but I don't know what. Short\n> of the question is, how do I host a repo out of Windows?\n\nI think your options are limited to:\n\n- Use Cygwin\n- Use a virtual machine running Linux with git inside it\n- Use JGit and its daemon\n\n-- \nShawn.\n"},{"id":"102005","messageId":"alpine.DEB.1.00.0901261744240.25749@intel-tinevez-2-302","threadId":"17375","inReplyTo":"c115fd3c0901260827ge5e4b29w871b345da2373f6b@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: Hosting from Windows XP.","fromName":"Johannes Schindelin","fromEmail":"johannes.schindelin@gmx.de","sentAt":"2009-01-26T16:45:22Z","receivedAt":"2009-01-26T16:45:22Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"johannes.schindelin@gmx.de","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/127790?v=4"},"body":"Hi,\n\nOn Mon, 26 Jan 2009, Tim Visher wrote:\n\n> I may totally be missing something here, but I don't know what. Short \n> of the question is, how do I host a repo out of Windows?\n\nUse a net share. Use the native permission system to restrict/open up the \nrepository for certain people to read from/write to.\n\nCiao,\nDscho\n"},{"id":"102007","messageId":"m3bptux984.fsf@localhost.localdomain","threadId":"17375","inReplyTo":"20090126163124.GA31810@spearce.org","subject":"Re: Hosting from Windows XP.","fromName":"Jakub Narebski","fromEmail":"jnareb@gmail.com","sentAt":"2009-01-26T17:34:13Z","receivedAt":"2009-01-26T17:34:13Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"jnareb@gmail.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/2706?v=4"},"body":"\"Shawn O. Pearce\" writes:\n> Tim Visher wrote:\n\n> > I'm trying to get git set up for my company. We're stuck using\n> > Windows for the foreseeable future so for now I have to host the\n> > central integration repository out of a Windows box. I figured the\n> > easiest way to do this, short of installing cygwin, would be to do a\n> > simple msysgit install and then run git daemon with the relevant repo\n> > copied over onto the server. Then devs could track that repo.\n> > However, it appears that msysgit does not install git daemon.\n> \n> git-daemon isn't ported yet, due to its heavy reliance on POSIX\n> behavior during fork+exec.\n\nYou can use instead \"dumb\" HTTP protocol, or network filesystem\n(network share). Or SSH.\n\nNote that for push you don't [usually] use git-daemon: you can use\nSSH, filesystem (network share), HTTPS with WebDAV.\n\n> > I may totally be missing something here, but I don't know what. Short\n> > of the question is, how do I host a repo out of Windows?\n> \n> I think your options are limited to:\n[...]\n> - Use JGit and its daemon\n\n>From what I remember currently JGit daemon generates suboptimal\npackfiles, as it does not support delta compression yet...\n\n-- \nJakub Narebski\nPoland\nShadeHawk on #git\n"},{"id":"102008","messageId":"20090126173814.GC31810@spearce.org","threadId":"17375","inReplyTo":"m3bptux984.fsf@localhost.localdomain","subject":"Re: Hosting from Windows XP.","fromName":"Shawn O. Pearce","fromEmail":"spearce@spearce.org","sentAt":"2009-01-26T17:38:14Z","receivedAt":"2009-01-26T17:38:14Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"spearce@spearce.org","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/34844?v=4"},"body":"Jakub Narebski wrote:\n> \"Shawn O. Pearce\" writes:\n> > - Use JGit and its daemon\n> \n> From what I remember currently JGit daemon generates suboptimal\n> packfiles, as it does not support delta compression yet...\n\nYes.\n\nIt does however support delta-reuse, and it only supports the\nindex-pack variant during receive-pack. So it saves and reuses\nany deltas created by C git. Which makes it almost tolerable to\nwork with as a bit server.\n\n-- \nShawn.\n"},{"id":"102009","messageId":"be6fef0d0901260944l7e128588xc560810515e5f941@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"17375","inReplyTo":"alpine.DEB.1.00.0901261744240.25749@intel-tinevez-2-302","subject":"Re: Hosting from Windows XP.","fromName":"Tay Ray Chuan","fromEmail":"rctay89@gmail.com","sentAt":"2009-01-26T17:44:16Z","receivedAt":"2009-01-26T17:44:16Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"rctay89@gmail.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/61553?v=4"},"body":"Hi,\n\nOn Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 12:45 AM, Johannes Schindelin\n wrote:\n> Use a net share. Use the native permission system to restrict/open up the\n> repository for certain people to read from/write to.\n\nhmm, does this entail git daemon usage too?\n\n-- \nCheers,\nRay Chuan\n"},{"id":"102011","messageId":"be6fef0d0901260946jb6ef8deo59dc16a74a371074@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"17375","inReplyTo":"c115fd3c0901260827ge5e4b29w871b345da2373f6b@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: Hosting from Windows XP.","fromName":"Tay Ray Chuan","fromEmail":"rctay89@gmail.com","sentAt":"2009-01-26T17:46:31Z","receivedAt":"2009-01-26T17:46:31Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"rctay89@gmail.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/61553?v=4"},"body":"Hi,\n\nOn Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 12:27 AM, Tim Visher wrote:\n> Hello Everyone,\n>\n> I'm trying to get git set up for my company. We're stuck using\n> Windows for the foreseeable future so for now I have to host the\n> central integration repository out of a Windows box. I figured the\n> easiest way to do this, short of installing cygwin, would be to do a\n> simple msysgit install and then run git daemon with the relevant repo\n> copied over onto the server. Then devs could track that repo.\n> However, it appears that msysgit does not install git daemon.\n\nyou might want to look at using pushing over DAV: say, have all your\nemployees pulling from a DAV-enabled server.\n\nThe DAV protocol itself is platform-agnostic, so your server could be\nWindows or Linux or whatever. Since DAV deals with file I/O, you might\nwant to look at your security options, though I think basic access\nauthentication would be enough if your server is only accessible\nwithin your company's LAN.\n\nBy pushing over DAV, you can avoid running a git daemon. Looking at\nhow you would do this on Windows, i don't think it's advisable to do\nso.\n\nTo do this, first, you would need to have cygwin, then you have to run\n\"cygrunsrv -I\", which will install your git daemon as a Windows\nservice.\n\nAFAIK, cygrunsrv pipes stuff to git-daemon. I don't know how good this\noption is, reliablity or performance-wise.\n\nI've tried this out (somewhat limitedly) using git built on cygwin,\nwith an Apache server, though currently you would have problems if\nyour Apache was running on a Windows box (my patch to fix this is on\nits way).\n\n\n-- \nCheers,\nRay Chuan\n"},{"id":"102012","messageId":"20090126174656.GD31810@spearce.org","threadId":"17375","inReplyTo":"be6fef0d0901260944l7e128588xc560810515e5f941@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: Hosting from Windows XP.","fromName":"Shawn O. Pearce","fromEmail":"spearce@spearce.org","sentAt":"2009-01-26T17:46:56Z","receivedAt":"2009-01-26T17:46:56Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"spearce@spearce.org","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/34844?v=4"},"body":"Tay Ray Chuan wrote:\n> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 12:45 AM, Johannes Schindelin\n> wrote:\n> > Use a net share. Use the native permission system to restrict/open up the\n> > repository for certain people to read from/write to.\n> \n> hmm, does this entail git daemon usage too?\n\nNo, developers would be accessing the repository directly over SMB.\n\nIts slower than if you used git daemon. Access over SMB is\ntolerable, especially if your network is fast, but there's still a\nlot more data transfer then if the native git protocol could be used.\n\n-- \nShawn.\n"},{"id":"102016","messageId":"glkvpp$fvr$1@ger.gmane.org","threadId":"17375","inReplyTo":"c115fd3c0901260827ge5e4b29w871b345da2373f6b@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: Hosting from Windows XP.","fromName":"Johannes Gilger","fromEmail":"heipei@hackvalue.de","sentAt":"2009-01-26T18:35:37Z","receivedAt":"2009-01-26T18:35:37Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"heipei@hackvalue.de","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/6072?v=4"},"body":"On 2009-01-26, Tim Visher wrote:\n> easiest way to do this, short of installing cygwin, would be to do a\n\nI know you said \"short of installing cygwin\", but I'd like to ask you if \nyou have ever used CygWin. I'd suggest you give it a try first (if you \nhaven't already) because it would then enable you to use a wide range of \ntools from the unix-world without a lot of hassle. git, for example, can \nbe downloaded and compiled out-of-the-box, meaning the git-daemon as \nwell. You even get an ssh-server with cygwin (on windows, how cool is \nthat ;).\n\nGreetings,\nJojo\n\n-- \nJohannes Gilger \nhttp://hackvalue.de/heipei/\nGPG-Key: 0x42F6DE81\nGPG-Fingerprint: BB49 F967 775E BB52 3A81 882C 58EE B178 42F6 DE81\n"},{"id":"102151","messageId":"c115fd3c0901271024r5ecf1dd1g952c807dd5a6a3b4@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"17375","inReplyTo":"glkvpp$fvr$1@ger.gmane.org","subject":"Re: Hosting from Windows XP.","fromName":"Tim Visher","fromEmail":"tim.visher@gmail.com","sentAt":"2009-01-27T18:24:53Z","receivedAt":"2009-01-27T18:24:53Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"tim.visher@gmail.com","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/98307ce54bcac1a46b5d845827d5386e2a27895ff08790cdd3877ad527760575?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"Well, I ended up going with Cygwin. Didn't feel like the hassle of\nall of the rest of that stuff. Thanks so much, everyone. :)\n\n-- \n\nIn Christ,\n\nTimmy V.\n\nhttp://burningones.com/\nhttp://five.sentenc.es/ - Spend less time on e-mail\n"}]}