{"thread":{"id":"16460","subject":"French git user","startedAt":"2008-11-25T06:21:57Z","lastAt":"2008-11-30T08:37:17Z","messageCount":15,"participants":["Nicolas Morey-Chaisemartin","Christian MICHON","Jean-Francois Veillette","Johan Herland","Hannu Koivisto","Pascal Obry","nadim khemir"],"isPatch":false,"patchVersion":null,"patchTotal":null},"messages":[{"id":"96459","messageId":"492B9985.10103@morey-chaisemartin.com","threadId":"16460","inReplyTo":null,"subject":"French git user","fromName":"Nicolas Morey-Chaisemartin","fromEmail":"devel@morey-chaisemartin.com","sentAt":"2008-11-25T06:21:57Z","receivedAt":"2008-11-25T06:21:57Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"devel@morey-chaisemartin.com","avatar":null},"body":"Hello everyone,\n\nI've been given the task to prepare an introduction on Git for my\ncompany, as lots of people are interested by Git, and I'm one of the\nmost advanced user, as I started using git about 2 or 3 weeks ago...\nDue to my lack of experience, and not wanting to taught wrong things,\nI'm looking for one or more good french git user/developper to give a\nquick look to my slides, and tell me if I went wrong somewhere.\n\nThanks in advance\n\nNicolas Morey-Chaisemartin\n"},{"id":"96460","messageId":"46d6db660811242238q4bc919a6l12bfd9a38639e46e@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"16460","inReplyTo":"492B9985.10103@morey-chaisemartin.com","subject":"Re: French git user","fromName":"Christian MICHON","fromEmail":"christian.michon@gmail.com","sentAt":"2008-11-25T06:38:15Z","receivedAt":"2008-11-25T06:38:15Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"christian.michon@gmail.com","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/8a7c327b21187fbcab5c27640a49450eec72e0355dc292501197f27a5a744ec4?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 7:21 AM, Nicolas Morey-Chaisemartin\n wrote:\n> Hello everyone,\n>\n> I've been given the task to prepare an introduction on Git for my\n> company, as lots of people are interested by Git, and I'm one of the\n> most advanced user, as I started using git about 2 or 3 weeks ago...\n> Due to my lack of experience, and not wanting to taught wrong things,\n> I'm looking for one or more good french git user/developper to give a\n> quick look to my slides, and tell me if I went wrong somewhere.\n>\n> Thanks in advance\n>\n> Nicolas Morey-Chaisemartin\n> --\n> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line \"unsubscribe git\" in\n> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org\n> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html\n>\n\nI can do that for you, no pb ;-)\n\n-- \nChristian\n--\nhttp://detaolb.sourceforge.net/, a linux distribution for Qemu with Git inside !\n"},{"id":"96473","messageId":"C10BF28F-3466-4908-A5ED-6FB68FBEC3A2@yahoo.ca","threadId":"16460","inReplyTo":"46d6db660811242238q4bc919a6l12bfd9a38639e46e@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: French git user","fromName":"Jean-Francois Veillette","fromEmail":"jean_francois_veillette@yahoo.ca","sentAt":"2008-11-25T13:38:48Z","receivedAt":"2008-11-25T13:38:48Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"jean_francois_veillette@yahoo.ca","avatar":null},"body":"I'll probably need to do the same here (Montréal, Qc), so if you can \nshare your slides (or else), that would be nice.\n\nMerci ! (thanks),\n\n- jfv\n\nLe 08-11-25 à 01:38, Christian MICHON a écrit :\n\n> On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 7:21 AM, Nicolas Morey-Chaisemartin\n> wrote:\n>> Hello everyone,\n>>\n>> I've been given the task to prepare an introduction on Git for my\n>> company, as lots of people are interested by Git, and I'm one of the\n>> most advanced user, as I started using git about 2 or 3 weeks ago...\n>> Due to my lack of experience, and not wanting to taught wrong things,\n>> I'm looking for one or more good french git user/developper to give a\n>> quick look to my slides, and tell me if I went wrong somewhere.\n>>\n>> Thanks in advance\n>>\n>> Nicolas Morey-Chaisemartin\n>> --\n>> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line \"unsubscribe git\" in\n>> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org\n>> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html\n>>\n>\n> I can do that for you, no pb ;-)\n>\n> -- \n> Christian\n> --\n> http://detaolb.sourceforge.net/, a linux distribution for Qemu with \n> Git inside !\n> --\n> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line \"unsubscribe git\" in\n> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org\n> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html\n"},{"id":"96476","messageId":"46d6db660811250741w54d34062w7766efd135c457b8@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"16460","inReplyTo":"C10BF28F-3466-4908-A5ED-6FB68FBEC3A2@yahoo.ca","subject":"Re: French git user","fromName":"Christian MICHON","fromEmail":"christian.michon@gmail.com","sentAt":"2008-11-25T15:41:18Z","receivedAt":"2008-11-25T15:41:18Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"christian.michon@gmail.com","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/8a7c327b21187fbcab5c27640a49450eec72e0355dc292501197f27a5a744ec4?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Jean-Francois Veillette\n wrote:\n> I'll probably need to do the same here (Montréal, Qc), so if you can share\n> your slides (or else), that would be nice.\n>\n> Merci ! (thanks),\n>\n> - jfv\n>\n\nyou'll need to ask Nicolas. what I did was to provide feedback to his\nslides only (done).\nit's up to him to share his work or not.\n\n-- \nChristian\n--\nhttp://detaolb.sourceforge.net/, a linux distribution for Qemu with Git inside !\n"},{"id":"96481","messageId":"492C2F2E.2050200@morey-chaisemartin.com","threadId":"16460","inReplyTo":"46d6db660811250741w54d34062w7766efd135c457b8@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: French git user","fromName":"Nicolas Morey-Chaisemartin","fromEmail":"devel@morey-chaisemartin.com","sentAt":"2008-11-25T17:00:30Z","receivedAt":"2008-11-25T17:00:30Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"devel@morey-chaisemartin.com","avatar":null},"body":"Christian MICHON a écrit :\n> On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Jean-Francois Veillette\n> wrote:\n> \n>> I'll probably need to do the same here (Montréal, Qc), so if you can share\n>> your slides (or else), that would be nice.\n>>\n>> Merci ! (thanks),\n>>\n>> - jfv\n>>\n>> \n>\n> you'll need to ask Nicolas. what I did was to provide feedback to his\n> slides only (done).\n> it's up to him to share his work or not.\n>\n> \n\nI'd gladly share it, I just have to check my company policy.\nI asked my boss tonight so I'll get an answer by tomorrow and post it on\na ftp somewhere, if I can share it\n\nNicolas\n"},{"id":"96521","messageId":"492D0295.6060808@morey-chaisemartin.com","threadId":"16460","inReplyTo":"492C2F2E.2050200@morey-chaisemartin.com","subject":"Re: French git user","fromName":"Nicolas Morey-Chaisemartin","fromEmail":"devel@morey-chaisemartin.com","sentAt":"2008-11-26T08:02:29Z","receivedAt":"2008-11-26T08:02:29Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"devel@morey-chaisemartin.com","avatar":null},"body":"Nicolas Morey-Chaisemartin a écrit :\n> Christian MICHON a écrit :\n> \n>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Jean-Francois Veillette\n>> wrote:\n>> \n>> \n>>> I'll probably need to do the same here (Montréal, Qc), so if you can share\n>>> your slides (or else), that would be nice.\n>>>\n>>> Merci ! (thanks),\n>>>\n>>> - jfv\n>>>\n>>> \n>>> \n>> you'll need to ask Nicolas. what I did was to provide feedback to his\n>> slides only (done).\n>> it's up to him to share his work or not.\n>>\n>> \n>> \n>\n> I'd gladly share it, I just have to check my company policy.\n> I asked my boss tonight so I'll get an answer by tomorrow and post it on\n> a ftp somewhere, if I can share it\n>\n> Nicolas\n>\n> --\n> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line \"unsubscribe git\" in\n> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org\n> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html\n>\n>\n> \n\nI've been allowed to share my presentation:\nhttp://nicolas.morey-chaisemartin.com/git_tuto.pdf\n\nPlease send me any feedback, I'm always glad to imrpove my work.\n\nRegards\n\nNicolas Morey-Chaisemartin\n"},{"id":"96524","messageId":"200811260955.57421.johan@herland.net","threadId":"16460","inReplyTo":"492D0295.6060808@morey-chaisemartin.com","subject":"Re: French git user","fromName":"Johan Herland","fromEmail":"johan@herland.net","sentAt":"2008-11-26T08:55:57Z","receivedAt":"2008-11-26T08:55:57Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"johan@herland.net","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/547031?v=4"},"body":"On Wednesday 26 November 2008, Nicolas Morey-Chaisemartin wrote:\n> I've been allowed to share my presentation:\n> http://nicolas.morey-chaisemartin.com/git_tuto.pdf\n>\n> Please send me any feedback, I'm always glad to imrpove my work.\n\nI have no knowledge of French, but on page 15 the command\n\"git-commit --append\" is mentioned. There is no \"--append\"\noption. I'm guessing the \"--amend\" option is meant instead.\n\nAlso, the very next command is \"git-revert COMIT_ID\".\n\"COMIT_ID\" should probably have an extra \"M\".\n\nFinally, on page 11, you say something about \"git foo\" vs.\n\"git-foo\" (hopefully that the \"git-foo\" form is deprecated),\nbut in the rest of the presentation you use a mix of \"git foo\"\nand \"git-foo\" (mostly \"git-foo\"). This seems inconsistent.\n\n\nHave fun! :)\n\n...Johan\n\n-- \nJohan Herland, \nwww.herland.net\n"},{"id":"96526","messageId":"492D1779.8040807@morey-chaisemartin.com","threadId":"16460","inReplyTo":"200811260955.57421.johan@herland.net","subject":"Re: French git user","fromName":"Nicolas Morey-Chaisemartin","fromEmail":"devel@morey-chaisemartin.com","sentAt":"2008-11-26T09:31:37Z","receivedAt":"2008-11-26T09:31:37Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"devel@morey-chaisemartin.com","avatar":null},"body":"Johan Herland a écrit :\n> On Wednesday 26 November 2008, Nicolas Morey-Chaisemartin wrote:\n> \n>> I've been allowed to share my presentation:\n>> http://nicolas.morey-chaisemartin.com/git_tuto.pdf\n>>\n>> Please send me any feedback, I'm always glad to imrpove my work.\n>> \n>\n> I have no knowledge of French, but on page 15 the command\n> \"git-commit --append\" is mentioned. There is no \"--append\"\n> option. I'm guessing the \"--amend\" option is meant instead.\n>\n> Also, the very next command is \"git-revert COMIT_ID\".\n> \"COMIT_ID\" should probably have an extra \"M\".\n>\n> Finally, on page 11, you say something about \"git foo\" vs.\n> \"git-foo\" (hopefully that the \"git-foo\" form is deprecated),\n> but in the rest of the presentation you use a mix of \"git foo\"\n> and \"git-foo\" (mostly \"git-foo\"). This seems inconsistent.\n>\n>\n> Have fun! :)\n>\n> ...Johan\n>\n> \n\n\nThanks, good catch.\nYes I say in french that git-foo is deprecated.\nHowever I'm still using it in the following slides because people have\ndirectly the good command to look at the man.\nI know it's not really consistent but asI'd rahter keep it that way and\ninsist while presenting it, it should only be used for man pages.\n\nI added your vchanged and updated the pdf.\n\nThanks\n\nNicolas\n"},{"id":"96535","messageId":"200811261123.56317.johan@herland.net","threadId":"16460","inReplyTo":"492D1779.8040807@morey-chaisemartin.com","subject":"Re: French git user","fromName":"Johan Herland","fromEmail":"johan@herland.net","sentAt":"2008-11-26T10:23:56Z","receivedAt":"2008-11-26T10:23:56Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"johan@herland.net","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/547031?v=4"},"body":"On Wednesday 26 November 2008, Nicolas Morey-Chaisemartin wrote:\n> Yes I say in french that git-foo is deprecated.\n> However I'm still using it in the following slides because people\n> have directly the good command to look at the man.\n> I know it's not really consistent but asI'd rahter keep it that way\n> and insist while presenting it, it should only be used for man pages.\n\nThe man pages are also accessible _without_ using the \"git-foo\" form, \neither by doing \"git foo --help\" or \"git help foo\". I'd suggest using \nthe \"git foo\" form, and using \"git help foo\" instead of \"man git-foo\".\n\n\nHave fun! :)\n\n...Johan\n\n\n-- \nJohan Herland, \nwww.herland.net\n"},{"id":"96548","messageId":"D5EC3E78-C9BD-4897-A535-85736734FA00@yahoo.ca","threadId":"16460","inReplyTo":"492D1779.8040807@morey-chaisemartin.com","subject":"Re: French git user","fromName":"Jean-Francois Veillette","fromEmail":"jean_francois_veillette@yahoo.ca","sentAt":"2008-11-26T14:16:39Z","receivedAt":"2008-11-26T14:16:39Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"jean_francois_veillette@yahoo.ca","avatar":null},"body":"I've quickly read the document.\nMany thanks Nicolas !\n\n- jfv\n\nLe 08-11-26 à 04:31, Nicolas Morey-Chaisemartin a écrit :\n\n> Johan Herland a écrit :\n>> On Wednesday 26 November 2008, Nicolas Morey-Chaisemartin wrote:\n>>\n>>> I've been allowed to share my presentation:\n>>> http://nicolas.morey-chaisemartin.com/git_tuto.pdf\n>>>\n>>> Please send me any feedback, I'm always glad to imrpove my work.\n>>>\n>>\n>> I have no knowledge of French, but on page 15 the command\n>> \"git-commit --append\" is mentioned. There is no \"--append\"\n>> option. I'm guessing the \"--amend\" option is meant instead.\n>>\n>> Also, the very next command is \"git-revert COMIT_ID\".\n>> \"COMIT_ID\" should probably have an extra \"M\".\n>>\n>> Finally, on page 11, you say something about \"git foo\" vs.\n>> \"git-foo\" (hopefully that the \"git-foo\" form is deprecated),\n>> but in the rest of the presentation you use a mix of \"git foo\"\n>> and \"git-foo\" (mostly \"git-foo\"). This seems inconsistent.\n>>\n>>\n>> Have fun! :)\n>>\n>> ...Johan\n>>\n>>\n>\n>\n> Thanks, good catch.\n> Yes I say in french that git-foo is deprecated.\n> However I'm still using it in the following slides because people have\n> directly the good command to look at the man.\n> I know it's not really consistent but asI'd rahter keep it that way \n> and\n> insist while presenting it, it should only be used for man pages.\n>\n> I added your vchanged and updated the pdf.\n>\n> Thanks\n>\n> Nicolas\n> --\n> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line \"unsubscribe git\" in\n> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org\n> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html\n"},{"id":"96554","messageId":"83zljmo3sw.fsf@kalahari.s2.org","threadId":"16460","inReplyTo":"200811261123.56317.johan@herland.net","subject":"Re: French git user","fromName":"Hannu Koivisto","fromEmail":"azure@iki.fi","sentAt":"2008-11-26T16:22:23Z","receivedAt":"2008-11-26T16:22:23Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"azure@iki.fi","avatar":null},"body":"Johan Herland writes:\n\n> On Wednesday 26 November 2008, Nicolas Morey-Chaisemartin wrote:\n>> Yes I say in french that git-foo is deprecated.\n>> However I'm still using it in the following slides because people\n>> have directly the good command to look at the man.\n>> I know it's not really consistent but asI'd rahter keep it that way\n>> and insist while presenting it, it should only be used for man pages.\n>\n> The man pages are also accessible _without_ using the \"git-foo\" form, \n> either by doing \"git foo --help\" or \"git help foo\". I'd suggest using \n> the \"git foo\" form, and using \"git help foo\" instead of \"man git-foo\".\n\nDepending on the audience, one might want to mention that if you\nare using a modern version of zsh as your shell and have activated\nits run-help function (see\nhttp://zsh.dotsrc.org/Doc/Release/zsh_24.html#SEC218), you can just\nsay\n\ngit foo -bar \n\nand you'll get git-foo manual page. When you exit man, you'll get\nyour command line back just like it was when you hit M-h. I think\nit handles even \"echo dum ; git foo \" kind of cases. You\ncan't live without it once you have tried it. Or the completion\nwith descriptions for options etc.\n\n-- \nHannu\n"},{"id":"96562","messageId":"492D8D8E.8010900@obry.net","threadId":"16460","inReplyTo":"200811260955.57421.johan@herland.net","subject":"Re: French git user","fromName":"Pascal Obry","fromEmail":"pascal@obry.net","sentAt":"2008-11-26T17:55:26Z","receivedAt":"2008-11-26T17:55:26Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"pascal@obry.net","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/467069?v=4"},"body":"Johan,\n\nYou said that the form git- version is deprecated. That's true. But\nin the suit of the document you use only git-. This is not working\nanymore with recent Git version. I would recommend using only the \"git\n\" form.\n\nPascal.\n\n-- \n\n--|------------------------------------------------------\n--| Pascal Obry Team-Ada Member\n--| 45, rue Gabriel Peri - 78114 Magny Les Hameaux FRANCE\n--|------------------------------------------------------\n--| http://www.obry.net\n--| \"The best way to travel is by means of imagination\"\n--|\n--| gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.pgp.net --recv-key C1082595\n"},{"id":"96563","messageId":"492D8E78.8080805@obry.net","threadId":"16460","inReplyTo":"492D0295.6060808@morey-chaisemartin.com","subject":"Re: French git user","fromName":"Pascal Obry","fromEmail":"pascal@obry.net","sentAt":"2008-11-26T17:59:20Z","receivedAt":"2008-11-26T17:59:20Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"pascal@obry.net","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/467069?v=4"},"body":"Nicolas,\n\nYou said that the form git- version is deprecated. That's true. But\nin the suit of the document you use only git-. This is not working\nanymore with recent Git version. I would recommend using only the \"git\n\" form.\n\nPascal.\n\n-- \n\n--|------------------------------------------------------\n--| Pascal Obry Team-Ada Member\n--| 45, rue Gabriel Peri - 78114 Magny Les Hameaux FRANCE\n--|------------------------------------------------------\n--| http://www.obry.net\n--| \"The best way to travel is by means of imagination\"\n--|\n--| gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.pgp.net --recv-key C1082595\n"},{"id":"96565","messageId":"492D9023.9010508@obry.net","threadId":"16460","inReplyTo":"492D0295.6060808@morey-chaisemartin.com","subject":"Re: French git user","fromName":"Pascal Obry","fromEmail":"pascal@obry.net","sentAt":"2008-11-26T18:06:27Z","receivedAt":"2008-11-26T18:06:27Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"pascal@obry.net","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/467069?v=4"},"body":"Nicolas,\n\nThere is also at least two commands that I used often that are missing\nto me:\n\n $ git checkout -b branch_name branch_point\n\nWhich is equivalent to:\n\n $ git branch branch_name branch_point\n $ git checkout branch_name\n\nThe other missing command is:\n\n $ git add [-p|-i]\n\nVery important to create a set tightly related commits out of a dirty tree.\n\nMaybe also adding a note about aliases:\n\n $ git config --global alias.co checkout\n\nPascal.\n\n-- \n\n--|------------------------------------------------------\n--| Pascal Obry Team-Ada Member\n--| 45, rue Gabriel Peri - 78114 Magny Les Hameaux FRANCE\n--|------------------------------------------------------\n--| http://www.obry.net\n--| \"The best way to travel is by means of imagination\"\n--|\n--| gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.pgp.net --recv-key C1082595\n"},{"id":"96761","messageId":"200811300937.17470.nadim@khemir.net","threadId":"16460","inReplyTo":"83zljmo3sw.fsf@kalahari.s2.org","subject":"Re: French git user","fromName":"nadim khemir","fromEmail":"nadim@khemir.net","sentAt":"2008-11-30T08:37:17Z","receivedAt":"2008-11-30T08:37:17Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"nadim@khemir.net","avatar":null},"body":"On Wednesday 26 November 2008 17.22.23 Hannu Koivisto wrote:\n> Depending on the audience, one might want to mention that if you\n> are using a modern version of zsh as your shell and have activated\n> its run-help function (see\n> http://zsh.dotsrc.org/Doc/Release/zsh_24.html#SEC218), you can just\n> say\n>\n> git foo -bar \n\nAny idea if this also accessible, or is possible to add, in bash?\n\nI don't have it but I already feel I can't live without it.\n\nChees, Nadim.\n"}]}