{"thread":{"id":"15149","subject":"Gittogether event? (was: GSoC 2008 final evaluations)","startedAt":"2008-08-22T03:36:15Z","lastAt":"2008-08-28T04:07:57Z","messageCount":25,"participants":["Christian Couder","Junio C Hamano","Shawn O. Pearce","Petr Baudis","Andreas Ericsson","Greg KH","J.H.","Johannes Schindelin","Sam Vilain","Daniel Barkalow"],"isPatch":false,"patchVersion":null,"patchTotal":null},"messages":[{"id":"88078","messageId":"200808220536.15746.chriscool@tuxfamily.org","threadId":"15149","inReplyTo":"20080821144537.GM3483@spearce.org","subject":"Gittogether event? (was: GSoC 2008 final evaluations)","fromName":"Christian Couder","fromEmail":"chriscool@tuxfamily.org","sentAt":"2008-08-22T03:36:15Z","receivedAt":"2008-08-22T03:36:15Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"christian.couder@gmail.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/208954?v=4"},"body":"Le jeudi 21 août 2008, Shawn O. Pearce a écrit :\n> Christian Couder wrote:\n> > I see. In this case perhaps the money can be spend to fund travel\n> > expenses for another event where many of us could meet instead of the\n> > mentor summit? It could even be better as Junio and perhaps Linus could\n> > be there too.\n>\n> Google has offered to help us organize a Gittogether in Portland\n> if we desire. Portland was suggested because rumor has it that\n> Linus doesn't like to travel.\n\nGreat!\n\n> I'm not sure how far \"offered to help\" goes yet. I can pursure\n> that further if we want to put something together. Really it\n> needs to be discussed on the git ML as we'd want as many folks\n> from the community to come out if they could.\n\nRight, so I add the list to CC.\n\nHere are a few question to start the discussion:\n\nWhat date would be best?\nWho could come?\nWhat needs to be done to organize it?\nWho could help organize it?\n\nThanks,\nChristian.\n"},{"id":"88091","messageId":"7v7ia9d0of.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org","threadId":"15149","inReplyTo":"200808220536.15746.chriscool@tuxfamily.org","subject":"Re: Gittogether event?","fromName":"Junio C Hamano","fromEmail":"gitster@pobox.com","sentAt":"2008-08-22T06:27:28Z","receivedAt":"2008-08-22T06:27:28Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"gitster@pobox.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/54884?v=4"},"body":"Christian Couder writes:\n\n> Le jeudi 21 août 2008, Shawn O. Pearce a écrit :\n>> Christian Couder wrote:\n>> > I see. In this case perhaps the money can be spend to fund travel\n>> > expenses for another event where many of us could meet instead of the\n>> > mentor summit? It could even be better as Junio and perhaps Linus could\n>> > be there too.\n>>\n>> Google has offered to help us organize a Gittogether in Portland\n>> if we desire. Portland was suggested because rumor has it that\n>> Linus doesn't like to travel.\n>\n> Great!\n> ...\n> Here are a few question to start the discussion:\n>\n> What date would be best?\n> Who could come?\n> What needs to be done to organize it?\n> Who could help organize it?\n\nThis reminds me... I'll be offline from 24 or 25 of September for two\nweeks or so, and need to ask somebody most likely Shawn to keep an eye on\nthe patchflow during that time.\n\nIf Git-together happens outside of that, I could join.\n"},{"id":"88136","messageId":"20080822143407.GE3483@spearce.org","threadId":"15149","inReplyTo":"7v7ia9d0of.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org","subject":"Re: Gittogether event?","fromName":"Shawn O. Pearce","fromEmail":"spearce@spearce.org","sentAt":"2008-08-22T14:34:07Z","receivedAt":"2008-08-22T14:34:07Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"spearce@spearce.org","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/34844?v=4"},"body":"Junio C Hamano wrote:\n> Christian Couder writes:\n> > Le jeudi 21 août 2008, Shawn O. Pearce a écrit :\n> >> Christian Couder wrote:\n> >>\n> >> Google has offered to help us organize a Gittogether in Portland\n> >> if we desire.\n> \n> > Here are a few question to start the discussion:\n> >\n> > What date would be best?\n> > Who could come?\n> > What needs to be done to organize it?\n> > Who could help organize it?\n\nThis smells like a survey to me. ;-)\n\nWe should put together something really short, and try to get folks\nto answer it, not just from our developer list, but maybe also our\nuser communities. Maybe something like:\n\n\t1: Are you interested in attending a Gittogether:\n\t\t[ ] Yes [ ] No\n\n\t\tIf you answered no, you can give up on the survey now.\n\n\t2: Would you travel to Portland, Oregon for the Gittogether:\n\t\t[ ] Yes [ ] No\n\n\t3: What month/year would be best?\n\t\tOption list for next 12 months from Oct 08-Oct 09.\n\n\t4: What would you hope to see/accomplish while there?\n\t\t[ ] Instructor-lead Git training\n\t\t[ ] 24 hour hack-a-new-feature contest\n\t\t[ ] ... ?\n\t\tEnter other ideas: [ ]\n\n\t5: Would you volunteer to help organize it?\n\t\n\t\tTrick question. Email blah@blah to indicate how you can help.\n \n> This reminds me... I'll be offline from 24 or 25 of September for two\n> weeks or so, and need to ask somebody most likely Shawn to keep an eye on\n> the patchflow during that time.\n\nEnjoy your time away from the keyboard. I'd be happy to keep a\npatch queue for you to pick up from when you get back.\n\n> If Git-together happens outside of that, I could join.\n\nI think it would be after that. I doubt we could put it together\nwith <30 days of notice. Most people who would want to attend need\nto book travel arrangements. While its possible with 30 days notice\nyou can typically get better rates if you have more lead time.\n\n-- \nShawn.\n"},{"id":"88137","messageId":"20080822144433.GF3483@spearce.org","threadId":"15149","inReplyTo":"32541b130808220739x632d1590v7894b7dfe94c4de@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: Gittogether event?","fromName":"Shawn O. Pearce","fromEmail":"spearce@spearce.org","sentAt":"2008-08-22T14:44:33Z","receivedAt":"2008-08-22T14:44:33Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"spearce@spearce.org","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/34844?v=4"},"body":"Avery Pennarun wrote:\n> On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Shawn O. Pearce wrote:\n> > 3: What month/year would be best?\n> > Option list for next 12 months from Oct 08-Oct 09.\n> \n> This sort of question usually works better if you rephrase it as a\n> multi-select instead of a radio button:\n> \n> 3: In which of the following months would you be able to attend?\n> (check all that apply)\n> Option list for next 12 months from Oct 08-Oct 09.\n\nOy, yes, thanks, that is what I meant to write, but utterly failed\nto convey.\n\n-- \nShawn.\n"},{"id":"88150","messageId":"20080822160008.GN10544@machine.or.cz","threadId":"15149","inReplyTo":"20080822143407.GE3483@spearce.org","subject":"Re: Gittogether event?","fromName":"Petr Baudis","fromEmail":"pasky@suse.cz","sentAt":"2008-08-22T16:00:08Z","receivedAt":"2008-08-22T16:00:08Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"pasky@ucw.cz","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/18439?v=4"},"body":"On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 07:34:07AM -0700, Shawn O. Pearce wrote:\n> > If Git-together happens outside of that, I could join.\n> \n> I think it would be after that. I doubt we could put it together\n> with <30 days of notice. Most people who would want to attend need\n> to book travel arrangements. While its possible with 30 days notice\n> you can typically get better rates if you have more lead time.\n\nAlso, if this event would indeed be in US, some of the developers would\nneed to arrange visa, which takes time too (though the time can vary,\nreportedly - but 30 days should be enough).\n\nI'm slightly discouraged by the idea of getting the visa, which is\nreportedly exhausting process involving handing over huge amount of\npersonal information to US government etc. But I might wind up having\nto travel to US sooner or later anyway, so I guess it's not a\ndeal-breaker for me.\n\n-- \n\t\t\t\tPetr \"Pasky\" Baudis\nThe next generation of interesting software will be done\non the Macintosh, not the IBM PC. -- Bill Gates\n"},{"id":"88152","messageId":"20080822160609.GO10544@machine.or.cz","threadId":"15149","inReplyTo":"20080822160008.GN10544@machine.or.cz","subject":"Re: Gittogether event?","fromName":"Petr Baudis","fromEmail":"pasky@suse.cz","sentAt":"2008-08-22T16:06:10Z","receivedAt":"2008-08-22T16:06:10Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"pasky@ucw.cz","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/18439?v=4"},"body":"On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 06:00:08PM +0200, Petr Baudis wrote:\n> On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 07:34:07AM -0700, Shawn O. Pearce wrote:\n> > I think it would be after that. I doubt we could put it together\n> > with <30 days of notice. Most people who would want to attend need\n> > to book travel arrangements. While its possible with 30 days notice\n> > you can typically get better rates if you have more lead time.\n> \n> Also, if this event would indeed be in US, some of the developers would\n> need to arrange visa, which takes time too (though the time can vary,\n> reportedly - but 30 days should be enough).\n\n(Then again, after a moment of thought, I'm not sure about the actual\nscale of the event - if it's just a short thing for a day or two, a trip\nfrom Europe probably does not make much sense. But if we could think up\nenough for four days of fun, it would be probably worth it.)\n\nDidn't Johannes mention that he will be in US in October?\n\n-- \n\t\t\t\tPetr \"Pasky\" Baudis\nThe next generation of interesting software will be done\non the Macintosh, not the IBM PC. -- Bill Gates\n"},{"id":"88155","messageId":"20080822161432.GJ3483@spearce.org","threadId":"15149","inReplyTo":"20080822160609.GO10544@machine.or.cz","subject":"Re: Gittogether event?","fromName":"Shawn O. Pearce","fromEmail":"spearce@spearce.org","sentAt":"2008-08-22T16:14:32Z","receivedAt":"2008-08-22T16:14:32Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"spearce@spearce.org","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/34844?v=4"},"body":"Petr Baudis wrote:\n> On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 06:00:08PM +0200, Petr Baudis wrote:\n> > On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 07:34:07AM -0700, Shawn O. Pearce wrote:\n> > > I think it would be after that. I doubt we could put it together\n> > > with <30 days of notice. Most people who would want to attend need\n> > > to book travel arrangements. While its possible with 30 days notice\n> > > you can typically get better rates if you have more lead time.\n> > \n> > Also, if this event would indeed be in US, some of the developers would\n> > need to arrange visa, which takes time too (though the time can vary,\n> > reportedly - but 30 days should be enough).\n> \n> (Then again, after a moment of thought, I'm not sure about the actual\n> scale of the event - if it's just a short thing for a day or two, a trip\n> from Europe probably does not make much sense. But if we could think up\n> enough for four days of fun, it would be probably worth it.)\n\nVery good point. I myself am trying to justify flying to Eclipse\nSummit Europe in November. Its a long flight from the west coast\nof the US.\n \n> Didn't Johannes mention that he will be in US in October?\n\nHe sometimes makes trips to DC for some reason or another. But maybe\nOctober he was thinking of the GSoC mentor summit? Its held here in\nMountain View, CA. Not too far from Portland, relatively speaking.\nBut if he's here in October I'm not sure he'd want to be here again\nin say November. Not enough time between flights to stretch the\nlegs out again. ;-)\n\n-- \nShawn.\n"},{"id":"88173","messageId":"48AF0C3E.5060506@op5.se","threadId":"15149","inReplyTo":"20080822160008.GN10544@machine.or.cz","subject":"Re: Gittogether event?","fromName":"Andreas Ericsson","fromEmail":"ae@op5.se","sentAt":"2008-08-22T18:58:06Z","receivedAt":"2008-08-22T18:58:06Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"ae@op5.se","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/426e89595c75a8f5252dd0c989e5fabe5bcac616e68557427ad9aef6b0ca342a?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"Petr Baudis wrote:\n> On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 07:34:07AM -0700, Shawn O. Pearce wrote:\n>>> If Git-together happens outside of that, I could join.\n>> I think it would be after that. I doubt we could put it together\n>> with <30 days of notice. Most people who would want to attend need\n>> to book travel arrangements. While its possible with 30 days notice\n>> you can typically get better rates if you have more lead time.\n> \n> Also, if this event would indeed be in US, some of the developers would\n> need to arrange visa, which takes time too (though the time can vary,\n> reportedly - but 30 days should be enough).\n> \n> I'm slightly discouraged by the idea of getting the visa, which is\n> reportedly exhausting process involving handing over huge amount of\n> personal information to US government etc. But I might wind up having\n> to travel to US sooner or later anyway, so I guess it's not a\n> deal-breaker for me.\n> \n\nI'm not sure where you're from, but quite a few countries who are\nmembers of the european union are also member of the visa waiver\nprogram and don't need visas to visit the us unless they:\n* have been suspected of a crime in the past 10 years (not only\n convicted, suspected is enough)\n* are first-generation immigrants\n* could in some really, really far-fetched way be suspected to be\n related to be connected to one of the several hundred thousand\n terrorist organizations around the world\n\nCheck with your american embassy. They're quite friendly, provided\nyou don't call them before american business hours have started. I\nbelieve it's something of a conundrum in china and australia, but\nperhaps the embassies there make special arrangements.\n\n-- \nAndreas Ericsson andreas.ericsson@op5.se\nOP5 AB www.op5.se\nTel: +46 8-230225 Fax: +46 8-230231\n"},{"id":"88202","messageId":"7vzln47nqx.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org","threadId":"15149","inReplyTo":"20080822143407.GE3483@spearce.org","subject":"Re: Gittogether event?","fromName":"Junio C Hamano","fromEmail":"gitster@pobox.com","sentAt":"2008-08-22T21:17:58Z","receivedAt":"2008-08-22T21:17:58Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"gitster@pobox.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/54884?v=4"},"body":"\"Shawn O. Pearce\" writes:\n\n> Junio C Hamano wrote:\n> ...\n>> If Git-together happens outside of that, I could join.\n>\n> I think it would be after that. I doubt we could put it together\n> with <30 days of notice. Most people who would want to attend need\n> to book travel arrangements. While its possible with 30 days notice\n> you can typically get better rates if you have more lead time.\n\nAh, I somehow got a wrong impression about this event from the initial\nposting, and certainly didn't imagine you were planning a mini-conference\nlike one, but a much more informal and smaller \"while some of us are in\nthe west coast during/near GSoC mentor thing, how about getting together\nfor fun\" kind of settings.\n\nIt all makes sense now.\n"},{"id":"88241","messageId":"20080823003102.GS3483@spearce.org","threadId":"15149","inReplyTo":"7vzln47nqx.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org","subject":"Re: Gittogether event?","fromName":"Shawn O. Pearce","fromEmail":"spearce@spearce.org","sentAt":"2008-08-23T00:31:02Z","receivedAt":"2008-08-23T00:31:02Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"spearce@spearce.org","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/34844?v=4"},"body":"Junio C Hamano wrote:\n> \"Shawn O. Pearce\" writes:\n> > Junio C Hamano wrote:\n> > ...\n> >> If Git-together happens outside of that, I could join.\n> >\n> > I think it would be after that. I doubt we could put it together\n> > with <30 days of notice. Most people who would want to attend need\n> > to book travel arrangements. While its possible with 30 days notice\n> > you can typically get better rates if you have more lead time.\n> \n> Ah, I somehow got a wrong impression about this event from the initial\n> posting, and certainly didn't imagine you were planning a mini-conference\n> like one, but a much more informal and smaller \"while some of us are in\n> the west coast during/near GSoC mentor thing, how about getting together\n> for fun\" kind of settings.\n\nWell, we could do that too. But I think we'd want to maybe do that\ncloser to Mountain View, where the actual summit is taking place,\nto cut down on the amount of travelling that the out-of-town folks\nhave to do.\n\nE.g. you could come up this year, and we'll have maybe 3 or 4 of\nour mentors here for the summit. We could even do a mini-one day\nthing at the Google campus. I could probably get Google to give us a\nsmall conference room or tech talk room for half a day or something.\n\nI don't really know what our community is interested in doing.\nSo I'm just tossing out ideas and seeing what sticks. If we don't\ndo anything, that's fine too.\n\n-- \nShawn.\n"},{"id":"88247","messageId":"20080823025030.GB22675@kroah.com","threadId":"15149","inReplyTo":"200808220536.15746.chriscool@tuxfamily.org","subject":"Re: Gittogether event? (was: GSoC 2008 final evaluations)","fromName":"Greg KH","fromEmail":"greg@kroah.com","sentAt":"2008-08-23T02:50:30Z","receivedAt":"2008-08-23T02:50:30Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"greg@kroah.com","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/5bb5aa0cc2e01c00ec899d11130c07796bc186e465bae57bc34873b13b72c7c8?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 05:36:15AM +0200, Christian Couder wrote:\n> Le jeudi 21 août 2008, Shawn O. Pearce a écrit :\n> > Christian Couder wrote:\n> > > I see. In this case perhaps the money can be spend to fund travel\n> > > expenses for another event where many of us could meet instead of the\n> > > mentor summit? It could even be better as Junio and perhaps Linus could\n> > > be there too.\n> >\n> > Google has offered to help us organize a Gittogether in Portland\n> > if we desire. Portland was suggested because rumor has it that\n> > Linus doesn't like to travel.\n> \n> Great!\n> \n> > I'm not sure how far \"offered to help\" goes yet. I can pursure\n> > that further if we want to put something together. Really it\n> > needs to be discussed on the git ML as we'd want as many folks\n> > from the community to come out if they could.\n> \n> Right, so I add the list to CC.\n> \n> Here are a few question to start the discussion:\n> \n> What date would be best?\n> Who could come?\n> What needs to be done to organize it?\n> Who could help organize it?\n\nIt could be done as part of the Linux Plumbers Conference this September\nin Portland where there will be at least one git talk:\n\thttp://linuxplumbersconf.org/\n\nthanks,\n\ngreg k-h\n"},{"id":"88251","messageId":"200808230706.11192.chriscool@tuxfamily.org","threadId":"15149","inReplyTo":"20080823025030.GB22675@kroah.com","subject":"Re: Gittogether event? (was: GSoC 2008 final evaluations)","fromName":"Christian Couder","fromEmail":"chriscool@tuxfamily.org","sentAt":"2008-08-23T05:06:10Z","receivedAt":"2008-08-23T05:06:10Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"christian.couder@gmail.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/208954?v=4"},"body":"Le samedi 23 août 2008, Greg KH a écrit :\n> On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 05:36:15AM +0200, Christian Couder wrote:\n> > Le jeudi 21 août 2008, Shawn O. Pearce a écrit :\n> > > Christian Couder wrote:\n> > > > I see. In this case perhaps the money can be spend to fund travel\n> > > > expenses for another event where many of us could meet instead of\n> > > > the mentor summit? It could even be better as Junio and perhaps\n> > > > Linus could be there too.\n> > >\n> > > Google has offered to help us organize a Gittogether in Portland\n> > > if we desire. Portland was suggested because rumor has it that\n> > > Linus doesn't like to travel.\n> >\n> > Great!\n> >\n> > > I'm not sure how far \"offered to help\" goes yet. I can pursure\n> > > that further if we want to put something together. Really it\n> > > needs to be discussed on the git ML as we'd want as many folks\n> > > from the community to come out if they could.\n> >\n> > Right, so I add the list to CC.\n> >\n> > Here are a few question to start the discussion:\n> >\n> > What date would be best?\n> > Who could come?\n> > What needs to be done to organize it?\n> > Who could help organize it?\n>\n> It could be done as part of the Linux Plumbers Conference this September\n> in Portland where there will be at least one git talk:\n> \thttp://linuxplumbersconf.org/\n\n(You mean the Git Tutorial by Linus:\n \nhttp://linuxplumbersconf.org/program/speakers/getspeaker.php?speaker=ltorvalds.txt)\n\nSo yes it could be part of the Plumbers Conference or just after it.\n\nIf it's part of the Conference, I wonder if people only interested by the \nGitTogether will have to pay the Conference registration fee (300$)?\n\nIn Portland, OR there will be:\n\n- September 15(Mon)-16(Tue): Kernel Summit 2008 \n(https://www.linuxfoundation.org/events/kernel)\n\n- September 17(Wed)-19(Fry): Linux Plumbers Conference\n(http://linuxplumbersconf.org/)\n\nSo the GitTogether could perhaps be just after that:\n\n- September 20(Sat)-21(Sun): GitTogether\n\nas some people might just want to come during a weekend and other might want \nto come for 5 days or even one full week (if they are invited to the Kernel \nSummit)?\n\nThe main problem is that it's a bit late for this year.\n\nThanks,\nChristian.\n"},{"id":"88255","messageId":"1219469131.2642.75.camel@localhost.localdomain","threadId":"15149","inReplyTo":"200808230726.03606.chriscool@tuxfamily.org","subject":"Re: Gittogether event?","fromName":"J.H.","fromEmail":"warthog19@eaglescrag.net","sentAt":"2008-08-23T05:25:31Z","receivedAt":"2008-08-23T05:25:31Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"warthog19@eaglescrag.net","avatar":null},"body":"I know I haven't chimed in yet - As for the mentor summit itself I\nwouldn't mind attending, but if there are others who would like to go I\nwon't begrudge them attending. That also said I live in the Bay area,\nand while I think I'll change apartments at some point, if people want\nto crash at my place I've got an air mattress and futon people are more\nthan welcome to occupy.\n\n- John\n\n\nOn Sat, 2008-08-23 at 07:26 +0200, Christian Couder wrote:\n> Le samedi 23 août 2008, Shawn O. Pearce a écrit :\n> > Junio C Hamano wrote:\n> > > \"Shawn O. Pearce\" writes:\n> > > > Junio C Hamano wrote:\n> > > > ...\n> > > >\n> > > >> If Git-together happens outside of that, I could join.\n> > > >\n> > > > I think it would be after that. I doubt we could put it together\n> > > > with <30 days of notice. Most people who would want to attend need\n> > > > to book travel arrangements. While its possible with 30 days notice\n> > > > you can typically get better rates if you have more lead time.\n> > >\n> > > Ah, I somehow got a wrong impression about this event from the initial\n> > > posting, and certainly didn't imagine you were planning a\n> > > mini-conference like one, but a much more informal and smaller \"while\n> > > some of us are in the west coast during/near GSoC mentor thing, how\n> > > about getting together for fun\" kind of settings.\n> >\n> > Well, we could do that too. But I think we'd want to maybe do that\n> > closer to Mountain View, where the actual summit is taking place,\n> > to cut down on the amount of travelling that the out-of-town folks\n> > have to do.\n> >\n> > E.g. you could come up this year, and we'll have maybe 3 or 4 of\n> > our mentors here for the summit. We could even do a mini-one day\n> > thing at the Google campus. I could probably get Google to give us a\n> > small conference room or tech talk room for half a day or something.\n> \n> I think it needs to be at least 2 days long for people coming from Europe or \n> farther, otherwise it might not be worth it for them to come. Or it needs \n> to happen during, after or before another interesting conference.\n> \n> The Google Mentor Summit is in Mountain View:\n> \n> - October 25(Sat)-26(Sun)\n> (http://code.google.com/opensource/gsoc/2008/faqs.html#0.1_timeline)\n> \n> Maybe we can have the GitTogether also in Montain View just after that: \n> \n> - October 27(Mon)-28(Tue)\n> \n> so that the 3 mentors that come to the mentor summit just have to stay to 2 \n> more days there.\n> \n> > I don't really know what our community is interested in doing.\n> > So I'm just tossing out ideas and seeing what sticks. If we don't\n> > do anything, that's fine too.\n> \n> Or maybe we can just plan something for next year.\n> \n> Thanks,\n> Christian.\n> \n> --\n> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line \"unsubscribe git\" in\n> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org\n> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html\n"},{"id":"88254","messageId":"200808230726.03606.chriscool@tuxfamily.org","threadId":"15149","inReplyTo":"20080823003102.GS3483@spearce.org","subject":"Re: Gittogether event?","fromName":"Christian Couder","fromEmail":"chriscool@tuxfamily.org","sentAt":"2008-08-23T05:26:03Z","receivedAt":"2008-08-23T05:26:03Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"christian.couder@gmail.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/208954?v=4"},"body":"Le samedi 23 août 2008, Shawn O. Pearce a écrit :\n> Junio C Hamano wrote:\n> > \"Shawn O. Pearce\" writes:\n> > > Junio C Hamano wrote:\n> > > ...\n> > >\n> > >> If Git-together happens outside of that, I could join.\n> > >\n> > > I think it would be after that. I doubt we could put it together\n> > > with <30 days of notice. Most people who would want to attend need\n> > > to book travel arrangements. While its possible with 30 days notice\n> > > you can typically get better rates if you have more lead time.\n> >\n> > Ah, I somehow got a wrong impression about this event from the initial\n> > posting, and certainly didn't imagine you were planning a\n> > mini-conference like one, but a much more informal and smaller \"while\n> > some of us are in the west coast during/near GSoC mentor thing, how\n> > about getting together for fun\" kind of settings.\n>\n> Well, we could do that too. But I think we'd want to maybe do that\n> closer to Mountain View, where the actual summit is taking place,\n> to cut down on the amount of travelling that the out-of-town folks\n> have to do.\n>\n> E.g. you could come up this year, and we'll have maybe 3 or 4 of\n> our mentors here for the summit. We could even do a mini-one day\n> thing at the Google campus. I could probably get Google to give us a\n> small conference room or tech talk room for half a day or something.\n\nI think it needs to be at least 2 days long for people coming from Europe or \nfarther, otherwise it might not be worth it for them to come. Or it needs \nto happen during, after or before another interesting conference.\n\nThe Google Mentor Summit is in Mountain View:\n\n- October 25(Sat)-26(Sun)\n(http://code.google.com/opensource/gsoc/2008/faqs.html#0.1_timeline)\n\nMaybe we can have the GitTogether also in Montain View just after that: \n\n- October 27(Mon)-28(Tue)\n\nso that the 3 mentors that come to the mentor summit just have to stay to 2 \nmore days there.\n\n> I don't really know what our community is interested in doing.\n> So I'm just tossing out ideas and seeing what sticks. If we don't\n> do anything, that's fine too.\n\nOr maybe we can just plan something for next year.\n\nThanks,\nChristian.\n"},{"id":"88259","messageId":"7vod3k2qsr.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org","threadId":"15149","inReplyTo":"20080822143407.GE3483@spearce.org","subject":"Re: Gittogether event?","fromName":"Junio C Hamano","fromEmail":"gitster@pobox.com","sentAt":"2008-08-23T06:23:16Z","receivedAt":"2008-08-23T06:23:16Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"gitster@pobox.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/54884?v=4"},"body":"\"Shawn O. Pearce\" writes:\n\n> Junio C Hamano wrote:\n> ...\n>> This reminds me... I'll be offline from 24 or 25 of September for two\n>> weeks or so, and need to ask somebody most likely Shawn to keep an eye on\n>> the patchflow during that time.\n>\n> Enjoy your time away from the keyboard. I'd be happy to keep a\n> patch queue for you to pick up from when you get back.\n\nThanks, and thanks again for handling the patchflow last year around the\nsame time. I'll be away for a reason related to the last year's event,\nbut at least this year it is scheduled so I can plan ahead.\n"},{"id":"88311","messageId":"20080823194250.GA876@spearce.org","threadId":"15149","inReplyTo":"200808230726.03606.chriscool@tuxfamily.org","subject":"Re: Gittogether event?","fromName":"Shawn O. Pearce","fromEmail":"spearce@spearce.org","sentAt":"2008-08-23T19:42:50Z","receivedAt":"2008-08-23T19:42:50Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"spearce@spearce.org","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/34844?v=4"},"body":"Christian Couder wrote:\n> I think it needs to be at least 2 days long for people coming from Europe or \n> farther, otherwise it might not be worth it for them to come. Or it needs \n> to happen during, after or before another interesting conference.\n> \n> The Google Mentor Summit is in Mountain View:\n> \n> - October 25(Sat)-26(Sun)\n> (http://code.google.com/opensource/gsoc/2008/faqs.html#0.1_timeline)\n> \n> Maybe we can have the GitTogether also in Montain View just after that: \n> \n> - October 27(Mon)-28(Tue)\n> \n> so that the 3 mentors that come to the mentor summit just have to stay to 2 \n> more days there.\n\nHmm. Not only that, but a number of our users come out to the\nMentor Summit. ~170 open souce projects send folks to that summit,\nand a fair percentage of those are now in Git. Many who travel\nfar for the summit already plan to stay a few days if they can.\n\n-- \nShawn.\n"},{"id":"88490","messageId":"200808252115.09916.chriscool@tuxfamily.org","threadId":"15149","inReplyTo":"20080822143407.GE3483@spearce.org","subject":"Re: Gittogether event?","fromName":"Christian Couder","fromEmail":"chriscool@tuxfamily.org","sentAt":"2008-08-25T19:15:09Z","receivedAt":"2008-08-25T19:15:09Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"christian.couder@gmail.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/208954?v=4"},"body":"Le vendredi 22 août 2008, Shawn O. Pearce a écrit :\n>\n> This smells like a survey to me. ;-)\n\nYes, and here is my answer. (I had to discuss a little with my wife so took \nme some time to come up with it.)\n\n> We should put together something really short, and try to get folks\n> to answer it, not just from our developer list, but maybe also our\n> user communities. Maybe something like:\n>\n> \t1: Are you interested in attending a Gittogether:\n> \t\t[ ] Yes [ ] No\n\nYes, definitely.\n\n> \t\tIf you answered no, you can give up on the survey now.\n>\n> \t2: Would you travel to Portland, Oregon for the Gittogether:\n> \t\t[ ] Yes [ ] No\n\nYes or to San Fransisco. I will probably stay 3 or 4 days even if I don't \nattend any other conference/event. Any free accomodation would be greatly \nappreciated.\n\n(Flight costs from Paris France are about 550 EUR (825 US$) for Portland \nOregon around the 20th of September and 630-670 EUR (950-1000 US$) for San \nFransisco around the 27th of October. Flights takes between 13 and 23 hours \neach as they are not direct.)\n\n> \t3: What month/year would be best?\n> \t\tOption list for next 12 months from Oct 08-Oct 09.\n\nOct 08 is ok. After that I would prefer between May 09 and Oct 09.\nAnyway not Nov 08 or Dec 08.\n\n> \t4: What would you hope to see/accomplish while there?\n> \t\t[ ] Instructor-lead Git training\n> \t\t[ ] 24 hour hack-a-new-feature contest\n> \t\t[ ] ... ?\n> \t\tEnter other ideas: [ ]\n\nI'd like small sessions (half a day/night long) that go like this:\n\n- 1 hour long presentation and discussion: someone talks about a topic and \nsome problems about it, then we discuss what could be done about this topic\n- a few hours long hacking: we try to implement solutions for problems \nrelated to the previous discussion.\n\nBut I guess anything will do.\n\n> \t5: Would you volunteer to help organize it?\n\nYes. Though I am probably not in the best place to help. But I can start to \ngather some information on a web page on the wiki or something.\n\n> \t\tTrick question. Email blah@blah to indicate how you can help.\n\nThanks,\nChristian.\n"},{"id":"88491","messageId":"20080825192327.GB26523@spearce.org","threadId":"15149","inReplyTo":"200808252115.09916.chriscool@tuxfamily.org","subject":"Re: Gittogether event?","fromName":"Shawn O. Pearce","fromEmail":"spearce@spearce.org","sentAt":"2008-08-25T19:23:27Z","receivedAt":"2008-08-25T19:23:27Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"spearce@spearce.org","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/34844?v=4"},"body":"Christian Couder wrote:\n> >\n> > \t2: Would you travel to Portland, Oregon for the Gittogether:\n> > \t\t[ ] Yes [ ] No\n> \n> Yes or to San Fransisco. I will probably stay 3 or 4 days even if I don't \n> attend any other conference/event. Any free accomodation would be greatly \n> appreciated.\n> \n> (Flight costs from Paris France are about 550 EUR (825 US$) for Portland \n> Oregon around the 20th of September and 630-670 EUR (950-1000 US$) for San \n> Fransisco around the 27th of October. Flights takes between 13 and 23 hours \n> each as they are not direct.)\n\nYikes. Anyway, if we have it in Moutain View after the GSoC mentor\nsummit I can probably offer up a couch and some floor space to a\ncouple of folks. Hopefully by then I will have the huge stacks\nof boxes put somewhere and there will actually be some space for\npeople in my flat. As it stands there is very little space for\nmyself and my wife.\n \n> > \t3: What month/year would be best?\n> > \t\tOption list for next 12 months from Oct 08-Oct 09.\n> \n> Oct 08 is ok. After that I would prefer between May 09 and Oct 09.\n> Anyway not Nov 08 or Dec 08.\n\nThat's what I'm starting to think. We either hold it after the GSoC\nmentor summit in Mountain View, or we defer until some time in 2009,\nwhere we actually have time to put something together.\n \n> > \t4: What would you hope to see/accomplish while there?\n> \n> I'd like small sessions (half a day/night long) that go like this:\n> \n> - 1 hour long presentation and discussion: someone talks about a topic and \n> some problems about it, then we discuss what could be done about this topic\n> - a few hours long hacking: we try to implement solutions for problems \n> related to the previous discussion.\n\nThis is an interesting idea. I like it.\n \n-- \nShawn.\n"},{"id":"88501","messageId":"alpine.DEB.1.00.0808252234410.24820@pacific.mpi-cbg.de.mpi-cbg.de","threadId":"15149","inReplyTo":"20080825192327.GB26523@spearce.org","subject":"Re: Gittogether event?","fromName":"Johannes Schindelin","fromEmail":"johannes.schindelin@gmx.de","sentAt":"2008-08-25T20:38:07Z","receivedAt":"2008-08-25T20:38:07Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"johannes.schindelin@gmx.de","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/127790?v=4"},"body":"Hi,\n\nOn Mon, 25 Aug 2008, Shawn O. Pearce wrote:\n\n> Christian Couder wrote:\n>\n> > - a few hours long hacking: we try to implement solutions for problems \n> > related to the previous discussion.\n> \n> This is an interesting idea. I like it.\n\nThis is called a hackathon, and I had the pleasure of attending three of \nthem. It is an extremely productive time, although you have to prepare to \nfall into a black hole after them, when all the fun suddenly stops.\n\nAs for dates: I am pretty free. However, I kind of hoped to pre-/append \nit to the GSoC summit, since I cannot afford to pay the flight, but I \ncould afford to pay the difference to wherever else than Mountain View the \nGitogether would take place.\n\nAll this, of course, provided that Google invites us, and that I am \nactually one of the few lucky mentors being allowed to come.\n\nCiao,\nDscho\n"},{"id":"88510","messageId":"200808252311.40880.chriscool@tuxfamily.org","threadId":"15149","inReplyTo":"alpine.DEB.1.00.0808252234410.24820@pacific.mpi-cbg.de.mpi-cbg.de","subject":"Re: Gittogether event?","fromName":"Christian Couder","fromEmail":"chriscool@tuxfamily.org","sentAt":"2008-08-25T21:11:40Z","receivedAt":"2008-08-25T21:11:40Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"christian.couder@gmail.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/208954?v=4"},"body":"Hi,\n\nLe lundi 25 août 2008, Johannes Schindelin a écrit :\n> Hi,\n>\n> On Mon, 25 Aug 2008, Shawn O. Pearce wrote:\n> > Christian Couder wrote:\n> > > - a few hours long hacking: we try to implement solutions for\n> > > problems related to the previous discussion.\n> >\n> > This is an interesting idea. I like it.\n>\n> This is called a hackathon, and I had the pleasure of attending three of\n> them. It is an extremely productive time, although you have to prepare\n> to fall into a black hole after them, when all the fun suddenly stops.\n>\n> As for dates: I am pretty free. However, I kind of hoped to pre-/append\n> it to the GSoC summit, since I cannot afford to pay the flight, but I\n> could afford to pay the difference to wherever else than Mountain View\n> the Gitogether would take place.\n\nI think that if it's just after/before the Mentor Summit it makes no sense \nfor it to be outside Mountain View. As Shawn said there are many git users \nthat will be there for the summit, so we want to make it easy for them to \nattend the GitTogether.\n\n> All this, of course, provided that Google invites us, and that I am\n> actually one of the few lucky mentors being allowed to come.\n\nI don't think I deserve/want to go to the Google SoC Mentor Summit but I \nwould apprieciate if some of the mentor money could fund some of my travel \nexpenses.\n\nBy the way I created this page on the wiki:\n\nhttp://git.or.cz/gitwiki/GitTogether\n\nIf someone see things to add, please do so.\n\nThanks,\nChristian.\n"},{"id":"88543","messageId":"1219725047.11792.81.camel@maia.lan","threadId":"15149","inReplyTo":"20080822143407.GE3483@spearce.org","subject":"Re: Gittogether event?","fromName":"Sam Vilain","fromEmail":"sam.vilain@catalyst.net.nz","sentAt":"2008-08-26T04:30:47Z","receivedAt":"2008-08-26T04:30:47Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"sam@vilain.net","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/8fc840ca854dbf6f7065b4335e3b934951c1dca3b11db688e95e471901f8f4a8?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"Figure I may as well answer this, given it's addressed to me :)\n\nOn Fri, 2008-08-22 at 07:34 -0700, Shawn O. Pearce wrote:\n> \t1: Are you interested in attending a Gittogether:\n> \t\t[ ] Yes [ ] No\n\nYes, but happy to participate in technical events via telemetry.\n\n> \t2: Would you travel to Portland, Oregon for the Gittogether:\n> \t\t[ ] Yes [ ] No\n\nSure, but only if several people thought it would be worth blowing US\n$1400 of community funds on my ticket ... that's what it costs to get\nacross the Pacific!\n\n> \t3: What month/year would be best?\n> \t\tOption list for next 12 months from Oct 08-Oct 09.\n\nThe summit time is actually quite good for me.\n\n> \t4: What would you hope to see/accomplish while there?\n> \t\t[ ] Instructor-lead Git training\n> \t\t[ ] 24 hour hack-a-new-feature contest\n> \t\t[ ] ... ?\n> \t\tEnter other ideas: [ ]\n\nThe main reason I'd be interested in joining would be to talk to people\nabout the gittorrent project, or any other similar \"cloud computing\"\nover git ideas. There was a bit of difference of opinions, and some\ndivergence of ideas that was possibly avoidable. It would be good to\n\"crack out\" the concepts with a group of people \"in person\". I'm pretty\nsure there's already a videoconference setup at Catalyst, or if not\nthere could be one jimmied up easily enough. So that might be a nice\ncheap thing to do - I can give a 30 minute overview of the technology,\nand hopefully participate in group discussion for another 30 minutes (or\nas long as people are interested in the discussion really).\n\nOf course I'd equally like to meet people... that's all good and\nfun :-). And I've got connections in Portland as well. I just think\nit's probably not the best use of community funds.\n\n> \t5: Would you volunteer to help organize it?\n\nI'd volunteer for anything, but you'd better turn it down I'd be\nhopeless ;-).\n\nSam\n"},{"id":"88647","messageId":"200808262248.59417.chriscool@tuxfamily.org","threadId":"15149","inReplyTo":"1219725047.11792.81.camel@maia.lan","subject":"Re: Gittogether event?","fromName":"Christian Couder","fromEmail":"chriscool@tuxfamily.org","sentAt":"2008-08-26T20:48:59Z","receivedAt":"2008-08-26T20:48:59Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"christian.couder@gmail.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/208954?v=4"},"body":"Le mardi 26 août 2008, Sam Vilain a écrit :\n> Figure I may as well answer this, given it's addressed to me :)\n\nYes, thank you very much for your answer :-)\nBy the way David and Daniel, are you interested by a GitTogether or by the \nGSoC Summit?\n\n> On Fri, 2008-08-22 at 07:34 -0700, Shawn O. Pearce wrote:\n> > \t1: Are you interested in attending a Gittogether:\n> > \t\t[ ] Yes [ ] No\n>\n> Yes, but happy to participate in technical events via telemetry.\n\nFrom below in your email it seems you mean video conference.\nAre there other people interested by an event via video conference?\n\n> > \t2: Would you travel to Portland, Oregon for the Gittogether:\n> > \t\t[ ] Yes [ ] No\n>\n> Sure, but only if several people thought it would be worth blowing US\n> $1400 of community funds on my ticket ... that's what it costs to get\n> across the Pacific!\n\nMaybe you can go to the GCoC Mentor Summit and Google will pay your ticket?\nAre you interested in going to the Mentor Summit?\n\n> > \t3: What month/year would be best?\n> > \t\tOption list for next 12 months from Oct 08-Oct 09.\n>\n> The summit time is actually quite good for me.\n>\n> > \t4: What would you hope to see/accomplish while there?\n> > \t\t[ ] Instructor-lead Git training\n> > \t\t[ ] 24 hour hack-a-new-feature contest\n> > \t\t[ ] ... ?\n> > \t\tEnter other ideas: [ ]\n>\n> The main reason I'd be interested in joining would be to talk to people\n> about the gittorrent project, or any other similar \"cloud computing\"\n> over git ideas. There was a bit of difference of opinions, and some\n> divergence of ideas that was possibly avoidable. It would be good to\n> \"crack out\" the concepts with a group of people \"in person\". I'm pretty\n> sure there's already a videoconference setup at Catalyst, or if not\n> there could be one jimmied up easily enough. So that might be a nice\n> cheap thing to do - I can give a 30 minute overview of the technology,\n> and hopefully participate in group discussion for another 30 minutes (or\n> as long as people are interested in the discussion really).\n>\n> Of course I'd equally like to meet people... that's all good and\n> fun :-). And I've got connections in Portland as well. I just think\n> it's probably not the best use of community funds.\n>\n> > \t5: Would you volunteer to help organize it?\n>\n> I'd volunteer for anything, but you'd better turn it down I'd be\n> hopeless ;-).\n\nThanks anyway ;-)\nChristian.\n"},{"id":"88650","messageId":"alpine.LNX.1.00.0808261657540.19665@iabervon.org","threadId":"15149","inReplyTo":"200808262248.59417.chriscool@tuxfamily.org","subject":"Re: Gittogether event?","fromName":"Daniel Barkalow","fromEmail":"barkalow@iabervon.org","sentAt":"2008-08-26T20:59:05Z","receivedAt":"2008-08-26T20:59:05Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"barkalow@iabervon.org","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/55364219?v=4"},"body":"On Tue, 26 Aug 2008, Christian Couder wrote:\n\n> Le mardi 26 août 2008, Sam Vilain a écrit :\n> > Figure I may as well answer this, given it's addressed to me :)\n> \n> Yes, thank you very much for your answer :-)\n> By the way David and Daniel, are you interested by a GitTogether or by the \n> GSoC Summit?\n\nI'm not really; I don't like to travel and I'm pretty busy these days.\n\n\t-Daniel\n*This .sig left intentionally blank*"},{"id":"88821","messageId":"48B5E732.1050507@vilain.net","threadId":"15149","inReplyTo":"200808262248.59417.chriscool@tuxfamily.org","subject":"Re: Gittogether event?","fromName":"Sam Vilain","fromEmail":"sam@vilain.net","sentAt":"2008-08-27T23:45:54Z","receivedAt":"2008-08-27T23:45:54Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"sam@vilain.net","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/8fc840ca854dbf6f7065b4335e3b934951c1dca3b11db688e95e471901f8f4a8?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"Christian Couder wrote:\n>>> \t1: Are you interested in attending a Gittogether:\n>>> \t\t[ ] Yes [ ] No\n>> Yes, but happy to participate in technical events via telemetry.\n> From below in your email it seems you mean video conference.\n> Are there other people interested by an event via video conference?\n\nWell, IME this only really works for a limited number of people\nattending via a video link.\n\n>>> \t2: Would you travel to Portland, Oregon for the Gittogether:\n>>> \t\t[ ] Yes [ ] No\n>> Sure, but only if several people thought it would be worth blowing US\n>> $1400 of community funds on my ticket ... that's what it costs to get\n>> across the Pacific!\n> Maybe you can go to the GCoC Mentor Summit and Google will pay your ticket?\n> Are you interested in going to the Mentor Summit?\n\nSure, I'd love to go, it's well timed between my terms and I haven't\nbeen to SFO yet. It's just a lot of money, and imagine all the trees\nI'll have to plant to offset the carbon emissions :-)\n\nSam.\n"},{"id":"88865","messageId":"200808280607.57439.chriscool@tuxfamily.org","threadId":"15149","inReplyTo":"48B5E732.1050507@vilain.net","subject":"Re: Gittogether event?","fromName":"Christian Couder","fromEmail":"chriscool@tuxfamily.org","sentAt":"2008-08-28T04:07:57Z","receivedAt":"2008-08-28T04:07:57Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"christian.couder@gmail.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/208954?v=4"},"body":"Le jeudi 28 août 2008, Sam Vilain a écrit :\n> Christian Couder wrote:\n> >\n> > Maybe you can go to the GCoC Mentor Summit and Google will pay your\n> > ticket? Are you interested in going to the Mentor Summit?\n>\n> Sure, I'd love to go, it's well timed between my terms and I haven't\n> been to SFO yet. It's just a lot of money, and imagine all the trees\n> I'll have to plant to offset the carbon emissions :-)\n\nNo, you just need to get Git Torrent implemented! In the long run it will \nsave tons of carbon emissions :-)\n\nRegards,\nChristian. \n"}]}