{"thread":{"id":"14726","subject":"short log and email address","startedAt":"2008-07-28T18:06:06Z","lastAt":"2008-07-29T22:30:01Z","messageCount":8,"participants":["Jon Smirl","Mark Brown","Johannes Schindelin","René Scharfe"],"isPatch":false,"patchVersion":null,"patchTotal":null},"messages":[{"id":"85311","messageId":"9e4733910807281106y56f8b67ao86f78822c4b4ad58@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"14726","inReplyTo":null,"subject":"short log and email address","fromName":"Jon Smirl","fromEmail":"jonsmirl@gmail.com","sentAt":"2008-07-28T18:06:06Z","receivedAt":"2008-07-28T18:06:06Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"jonsmirl@gmail.com","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/cff3bf5bfdfa6708b905712ff91f0f9b8aaca161659f38c02b787920d5d28b7e?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"Using the -e option in shortlog changes the results by spitting things\nout by email address instead of leaving them combined by name. That's\nprobably not what you want. Instead you want everything combined by\nname and then display the most recent email address used.\n\nIs there some way to fix this for the future? Maybe use Reply-to:\ninstead of From: on email import?\n\n 998\tDavid S. Miller \n 689\tDavid S. Miller \n 6\tDavid S. Miller \n 5\tDavid S. Miller \n 4\tDavid S. Miller \n 2\tDavid S. Miller \n 2\tDavid S. Miller \n 1\tDavid S. Miller \n\n\n-- \nJon Smirl\njonsmirl@gmail.com\n"},{"id":"85312","messageId":"20080728181101.GA9148@sirena.org.uk","threadId":"14726","inReplyTo":"9e4733910807281106y56f8b67ao86f78822c4b4ad58@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: short log and email address","fromName":"Mark Brown","fromEmail":"broonie@sirena.org.uk","sentAt":"2008-07-28T18:11:02Z","receivedAt":"2008-07-28T18:11:02Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"broonie@sirena.org.uk","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/9e798c729a4a709279df497d9608ad68422755c9670e92434a5436f7e607cf86?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 02:06:06PM -0400, Jon Smirl wrote:\n> Using the -e option in shortlog changes the results by spitting things\n> out by email address instead of leaving them combined by name. That's\n> probably not what you want. Instead you want everything combined by\n> name and then display the most recent email address used.\n\nApart from anything else you're assuming that people's names are\nglobally unique - they aren't. I'm aware of several Mark Browns active\nin the free software world, for example.\n\n-- \n\"You grabbed my hand and we fell into it, like a daydream - or a fever.\"\n"},{"id":"85316","messageId":"9e4733910807281125m7e555377l89cb57dff0f57ee2@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"14726","inReplyTo":"20080728181101.GA9148@sirena.org.uk","subject":"Re: short log and email address","fromName":"Jon Smirl","fromEmail":"jonsmirl@gmail.com","sentAt":"2008-07-28T18:25:23Z","receivedAt":"2008-07-28T18:25:23Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"jonsmirl@gmail.com","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/cff3bf5bfdfa6708b905712ff91f0f9b8aaca161659f38c02b787920d5d28b7e?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"On 7/28/08, Mark Brown wrote:\n> On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 02:06:06PM -0400, Jon Smirl wrote:\n> > Using the -e option in shortlog changes the results by spitting things\n> > out by email address instead of leaving them combined by name. That's\n> > probably not what you want. Instead you want everything combined by\n> > name and then display the most recent email address used.\n>\n> Apart from anything else you're assuming that people's names are\n> globally unique - they aren't. I'm aware of several Mark Browns active\n> in the free software world, for example.\n\nThere is a conflicting problem, multiple people with the same name and\npeople using multiple email addresses. The only solution I can see is\nfor the Mark Brown developers to get together and come up with a way\nto differentiate their signatures (initial, nickname, etc), otherwise\nI can't tell them apart from someone using multiple email addresses.\n\nMark Brown \nMark Brown \n\nSame or two different people? These two names have committed to the kernel.\n\n-- \nJon Smirl\njonsmirl@gmail.com\n"},{"id":"85317","messageId":"alpine.DEB.1.00.0807281928400.8986@racer","threadId":"14726","inReplyTo":"9e4733910807281106y56f8b67ao86f78822c4b4ad58@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: short log and email address","fromName":"Johannes Schindelin","fromEmail":"johannes.schindelin@gmx.de","sentAt":"2008-07-28T18:34:18Z","receivedAt":"2008-07-28T18:34:18Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"johannes.schindelin@gmx.de","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/127790?v=4"},"body":"Hi,\n\nOn Mon, 28 Jul 2008, Jon Smirl wrote:\n\n> Using the -e option in shortlog changes the results by spitting things \n> out by email address instead of leaving them combined by name. That's \n> probably not what you want. Instead you want everything combined by name \n> and then display the most recent email address used.\n\nWhat is so wrong with _not_ using -e (since you do not want to see the \nemail address stored in the commit message, and -e would be asking for \nthat _exactly_)?\n\nAfter the fact, you can annotate the names with all you like. For \nexample, the most recent email address for that person.\n\nBut as Mark pointed out, the name might be a bad key. Maybe you will have \nto do something completely different, namely maintain a separate list of \n(correct) names and emails, and then having line numbers in .mailmap, \nlike:\n\n1 \n1 \n1 \n2 \n2 \n\netc\n\nHowever, I have to say that I see small value in that, and an inordinate \namount of work that nobody wants to do.\n\nCiao,\nDscho\n"},{"id":"85319","messageId":"9e4733910807281157u44c08a59ld3bdc0416e8a1d03@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"14726","inReplyTo":"alpine.DEB.1.00.0807281928400.8986@racer","subject":"Re: short log and email address","fromName":"Jon Smirl","fromEmail":"jonsmirl@gmail.com","sentAt":"2008-07-28T18:57:39Z","receivedAt":"2008-07-28T18:57:39Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"jonsmirl@gmail.com","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/cff3bf5bfdfa6708b905712ff91f0f9b8aaca161659f38c02b787920d5d28b7e?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"On 7/28/08, Johannes Schindelin wrote:\n> Hi,\n>\n>\n> On Mon, 28 Jul 2008, Jon Smirl wrote:\n>\n> > Using the -e option in shortlog changes the results by spitting things\n> > out by email address instead of leaving them combined by name. That's\n> > probably not what you want. Instead you want everything combined by name\n> > and then display the most recent email address used.\n>\n>\n> What is so wrong with _not_ using -e (since you do not want to see the\n> email address stored in the commit message, and -e would be asking for\n> that _exactly_)?\n\nI wanted -e to give me the most recent email so that I would know how\nto sort the mailmap alias list.\n\n>\n> After the fact, you can annotate the names with all you like. For\n> example, the most recent email address for that person.\n>\n> But as Mark pointed out, the name might be a bad key. Maybe you will have\n> to do something completely different, namely maintain a separate list of\n> (correct) names and emails, and then having line numbers in .mailmap,\n> like:\n>\n> 1 \n> 1 \n> 1 \n> 2 \n> 2 \n>\n> etc\n>\n> However, I have to say that I see small value in that, and an inordinate\n> amount of work that nobody wants to do.\n\nWe could order the aliases until the correct alias is the last one. An\ninitial proxy would be to use the most recent email address on the\nperson's commits.\n\nThe trick is automating the maintenance. Modify checkpatch,pl to look\nup the person's name up in the mailmap file and retrieve all matching\naliases.\n\nIf the name isn't in mailmap, tell them to make a patch adding their\nname or to change their name.\n\nIf the name is there but the email is not the last one in the list,\ntell them to make a patch rearranging mailmap to reflect their current\nname/email.\n\nIf name is there and email is last on list, don't complain.\n\n\n\n>\n> Ciao,\n> Dscho\n>\n>\n\n\n-- \nJon Smirl\njonsmirl@gmail.com\n"},{"id":"85321","messageId":"alpine.DEB.1.00.0807282010190.8986@racer","threadId":"14726","inReplyTo":"9e4733910807281157u44c08a59ld3bdc0416e8a1d03@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: short log and email address","fromName":"Johannes Schindelin","fromEmail":"johannes.schindelin@gmx.de","sentAt":"2008-07-28T19:11:40Z","receivedAt":"2008-07-28T19:11:40Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"johannes.schindelin@gmx.de","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/127790?v=4"},"body":"Hi,\n\nOn Mon, 28 Jul 2008, Jon Smirl wrote:\n\n> On 7/28/08, Johannes Schindelin wrote:\n>\n> > On Mon, 28 Jul 2008, Jon Smirl wrote:\n> >\n> > > Using the -e option in shortlog changes the results by spitting \n> > > things out by email address instead of leaving them combined by \n> > > name. That's probably not what you want. Instead you want \n> > > everything combined by name and then display the most recent email \n> > > address used.\n> >\n> > What is so wrong with _not_ using -e (since you do not want to see the \n> > email address stored in the commit message, and -e would be asking for \n> > that _exactly_)?\n> \n> I wanted -e to give me the most recent email so that I would know how\n> to sort the mailmap alias list.\n\nAs I explained, that is not what -e is _supposed_ to do. In Git, content \nis king, and as such -e should look at the content. Unsurprisingly, that \nis exactly what it does.\n\nNothing prohibits you from post-processing the output, though.\n\nCiao,\nDscho\n"},{"id":"85443","messageId":"20080729102216.GC5931@sirena.org.uk","threadId":"14726","inReplyTo":"9e4733910807281125m7e555377l89cb57dff0f57ee2@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: short log and email address","fromName":"Mark Brown","fromEmail":"broonie@sirena.org.uk","sentAt":"2008-07-29T10:22:17Z","receivedAt":"2008-07-29T10:22:17Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"broonie@sirena.org.uk","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/9e798c729a4a709279df497d9608ad68422755c9670e92434a5436f7e607cf86?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 02:25:23PM -0400, Jon Smirl wrote:\n\n> I can't tell them apart from someone using multiple email addresses.\n\n> Mark Brown \n> Mark Brown \n\n> Same or two different people? These two names have committed to the kernel.\n\nBoth of them are me, though I have deliberately chosen to use the two\naddresses (except for the stuff that went via ARM where the patch system\nhas the same inability to cope with multiple people with the same name).\n\n-- \n\"You grabbed my hand and we fell into it, like a daydream - or a fever.\"\n"},{"id":"85527","messageId":"488F99E9.2010806@lsrfire.ath.cx","threadId":"14726","inReplyTo":"9e4733910807281157u44c08a59ld3bdc0416e8a1d03@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: short log and email address","fromName":"René Scharfe","fromEmail":"rene.scharfe@lsrfire.ath.cx","sentAt":"2008-07-29T22:30:01Z","receivedAt":"2008-07-29T22:30:01Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"l.s.r@web.de","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/26122331?v=4"},"body":"Jon Smirl schrieb:\n> On 7/28/08, Johannes Schindelin wrote:\n>> Hi,\n>>\n>>\n>> On Mon, 28 Jul 2008, Jon Smirl wrote:\n>>\n>> > Using the -e option in shortlog changes the results by spitting things\n>> > out by email address instead of leaving them combined by name. That's\n>> > probably not what you want. Instead you want everything combined by name\n>> > and then display the most recent email address used.\n>>\n>>\n>> What is so wrong with _not_ using -e (since you do not want to see the\n>> email address stored in the commit message, and -e would be asking for\n>> that _exactly_)?\n> \n> I wanted -e to give me the most recent email so that I would know how\n> to sort the mailmap alias list.\n\n\n\n> If the name isn't in mailmap, tell them to make a patch adding their\n> name or to change their name.\n\nThat makes sense if you want to list all contributors in .mailmap...\n\n> If the name is there but the email is not the last one in the list,\n> tell them to make a patch rearranging mailmap to reflect their current\n> name/email.\n\n... but why would you want to check if they used their respective email\nentry that is sorted last in the file? A person might have multiple\ncurrent email addresses, e.g. someone could send patches for one\nsubsystem from work and patches for something else from home, as a hobby.\n\nRené\n"}]}