{"thread":{"id":"12685","subject":"Should 'git config' support key with dot such as 'a.b'","startedAt":"2008-03-14T08:24:34Z","lastAt":"2008-03-18T00:42:28Z","messageCount":7,"participants":["Ping Yin","Johannes Schindelin","Xavier Maillard","Frank Lichtenheld","Junio C Hamano"],"isPatch":false,"patchVersion":null,"patchTotal":null},"messages":[{"id":"72046","messageId":"46dff0320803140124t1469defsf7002f720cf2002e@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"12685","inReplyTo":null,"subject":"Should 'git config' support key with dot such as 'a.b'","fromName":"Ping Yin","fromEmail":"pkufranky@gmail.com","sentAt":"2008-03-14T08:24:34Z","receivedAt":"2008-03-14T08:24:34Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"pkufranky@gmail.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/5346?v=4"},"body":"I find it is so annoying to write submodule definition as follows\n(yeah, only url, without path)\n\n------------------------------\n[submodule 'crawler']\n url = url1\n[submodule 'search']\n url = url2\n------------------------------\n\nI think the following form is more simple\n---------------------------------\n[submodule]\n crawler.url = url1\n search.url = url2\n---------------------------------\n\nSo, could we support such simpler form?\n\n\n-- \nPing Yin\n"},{"id":"72059","messageId":"alpine.LSU.1.00.0803141138340.24600@racer.site","threadId":"12685","inReplyTo":"46dff0320803140124t1469defsf7002f720cf2002e@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: Should 'git config' support key with dot such as 'a.b'","fromName":"Johannes Schindelin","fromEmail":"johannes.schindelin@gmx.de","sentAt":"2008-03-14T10:39:40Z","receivedAt":"2008-03-14T10:39:40Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"johannes.schindelin@gmx.de","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/127790?v=4"},"body":"Hi,\n\nOn Fri, 14 Mar 2008, Ping Yin wrote:\n\n> I find it is so annoying to write submodule definition as follows\n> (yeah, only url, without path)\n> \n> ------------------------------\n> [submodule 'crawler']\n> url = url1\n> [submodule 'search']\n> url = url2\n> ------------------------------\n> \n> I think the following form is more simple\n> ---------------------------------\n> [submodule]\n> crawler.url = url1\n> search.url = url2\n> ---------------------------------\n> \n> So, could we support such simpler form?\n\nI don't like it at all. Historically, we had much stricter rules on the \nvariable names than the second part of the section names.\n\nAlso, your suggestion would make things even more confusing than beginners \nalready complain Git is.\n\nCiao,\nDscho\n"},{"id":"72263","messageId":"200803170100.m2H103CF020765@localhost.localdomain","threadId":"12685","inReplyTo":"46dff0320803140124t1469defsf7002f720cf2002e@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: Should 'git config' support key with dot such as 'a.b'","fromName":"Xavier Maillard","fromEmail":"xma@gnu.org","sentAt":"2008-03-17T01:00:03Z","receivedAt":"2008-03-17T01:00:03Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"xma@gnu.org","avatar":null},"body":"\n\n I think the following form is more simple\n ---------------------------------\n [submodule]\n\tcrawler.url = url1\n\tsearch.url = url2\n ---------------------------------\n\n So, could we support such simpler form?\n\nDunno if my vote will count but I really don't like your\nproposition. I find clearer with the current notation. What's\nmore it forces people to be more rigorous when touching their\nconfiguration file.\n\ngit config is really simple to use and there should not be\ndifficult for anybody (even new git users) to set up git using\nthis helper tool. We should not recommend beginners to manually\nedit their .git/config file when git-config could be used.\n\n\tXavier\n-- \nhttp://www.gnu.org\nhttp://www.april.org\nhttp://www.lolica.org\n"},{"id":"72275","messageId":"20080317084815.GC10103@mail-vs.djpig.de","threadId":"12685","inReplyTo":"200803170100.m2H103CF020765@localhost.localdomain","subject":"Re: Should 'git config' support key with dot such as 'a.b'","fromName":"Frank Lichtenheld","fromEmail":"frank@lichtenheld.de","sentAt":"2008-03-17T08:48:15Z","receivedAt":"2008-03-17T08:48:15Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"frank@lichtenheld.de","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/b9f1d4b120e138f157c9e480d0818197c474628923786adb98f30017cdb99c3c?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 02:00:03AM +0100, Xavier Maillard wrote:\n> I think the following form is more simple\n> ---------------------------------\n> [submodule]\n> \tcrawler.url = url1\n> \tsearch.url = url2\n> ---------------------------------\n> \n> So, could we support such simpler form?\n> \n> Dunno if my vote will count but I really don't like your\n> proposition. I find clearer with the current notation. What's\n> more it forces people to be more rigorous when touching their\n> configuration file.\n> \n> git config is really simple to use and there should not be\n> difficult for anybody (even new git users) to set up git using\n> this helper tool. We should not recommend beginners to manually\n> edit their .git/config file when git-config could be used.\n\ngit config hasn't exactly a excellent track-record for dealing with all\nthe possibilities the config syntax allows. Adding yet another\npossibility will not make it any more reliable.\n\nAlso your argument that people should git-config anyway instead of\nediting by hand kinda contradicts the need for a new format, since\nit would change anything for the git-config interface, only for people\nediting the file by hand...\n\nAt the end of the day I don't think the benefits justify the effort.\n\nGruesse,\n-- \nFrank Lichtenheld \nwww: http://www.djpig.de/\n"},{"id":"72276","messageId":"20080317090330.GD10103@mail-vs.djpig.de","threadId":"12685","inReplyTo":"20080317084815.GC10103@mail-vs.djpig.de","subject":"Re: Should 'git config' support key with dot such as 'a.b'","fromName":"Frank Lichtenheld","fromEmail":"frank@lichtenheld.de","sentAt":"2008-03-17T09:03:30Z","receivedAt":"2008-03-17T09:03:30Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"frank@lichtenheld.de","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/b9f1d4b120e138f157c9e480d0818197c474628923786adb98f30017cdb99c3c?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"Bah, I really should be awake by now...\n\nOn Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 09:48:15AM +0100, Frank Lichtenheld wrote:\n> On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 02:00:03AM +0100, Xavier Maillard wrote:\n> Also your argument that people should git-config anyway instead of\n\ns/should/should use/\n\n> editing by hand kinda contradicts the need for a new format, since\n> it would change anything for the git-config interface, only for people\n\ns/would/would not/\n\n> editing the file by hand...\n> \n> At the end of the day I don't think the benefits justify the effort.\n\nGruesse,\n-- \nFrank Lichtenheld \nwww: http://www.djpig.de/\n"},{"id":"72328","messageId":"46dff0320803171740of822d02medc5911e0d056eb4@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"12685","inReplyTo":"alpine.LSU.1.00.0803141138340.24600@racer.site","subject":"Re: Should 'git config' support key with dot such as 'a.b'","fromName":"Ping Yin","fromEmail":"pkufranky@gmail.com","sentAt":"2008-03-18T00:40:46Z","receivedAt":"2008-03-18T00:40:46Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"pkufranky@gmail.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/5346?v=4"},"body":"On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Johannes Schindelin\n wrote:\n> Hi,\n>\n>\n>\n> On Fri, 14 Mar 2008, Ping Yin wrote:\n>\n> > I find it is so annoying to write submodule definition as follows\n> > (yeah, only url, without path)\n> >\n> > ------------------------------\n> > [submodule 'crawler']\n> > url = url1\n> > [submodule 'search']\n> > url = url2\n> > ------------------------------\n> >\n> > I think the following form is more simple\n> > ---------------------------------\n> > [submodule]\n> > crawler.url = url1\n> > search.url = url2\n> > ---------------------------------\n> >\n> > So, could we support such simpler form?\n>\n> I don't like it at all. Historically, we had much stricter rules on the\n> variable names than the second part of the section names.\n>\n> Also, your suggestion would make things even more confusing than beginners\n> already complain Git is.\n>\n\nBeginners will not edit config file directly. If they do, they can\nfollow the usaual syntax. So beginners don't have to know the new\nsyntax.\n\nBut for advanced users, the config file can be edited freely with more\nfree syntax. With current syntax, 'submodule' will be repeated tons\nof times when having tons of submoudles. Why not make life much easier\nfor advanced users in such case?\n\n\n\n-- \nPing Yin\n"},{"id":"72329","messageId":"7vhcf4ammj.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org","threadId":"12685","inReplyTo":"46dff0320803171740of822d02medc5911e0d056eb4@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: Should 'git config' support key with dot such as 'a.b'","fromName":"Junio C Hamano","fromEmail":"gitster@pobox.com","sentAt":"2008-03-18T00:42:28Z","receivedAt":"2008-03-18T00:42:28Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"gitster@pobox.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/54884?v=4"},"body":"\"Ping Yin\" writes:\n\n> On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Johannes Schindelin\n> wrote:\n>> Hi,\n>>\n>>\n>>\n>> On Fri, 14 Mar 2008, Ping Yin wrote:\n>>\n>> > I find it is so annoying to write submodule definition as follows\n>> > (yeah, only url, without path)\n>> >\n>> > ------------------------------\n>> > [submodule 'crawler']\n>> > url = url1\n>> > [submodule 'search']\n>> > url = url2\n>> > ------------------------------\n>> >\n>> > I think the following form is more simple\n>> > ---------------------------------\n>> > [submodule]\n>> > crawler.url = url1\n>> > search.url = url2\n>> > ---------------------------------\n>> >\n>> > So, could we support such simpler form?\n>>\n>> I don't like it at all. Historically, we had much stricter rules on the\n>> variable names than the second part of the section names.\n>>\n>> Also, your suggestion would make things even more confusing than beginners\n>> already complain Git is.\n\nI am not interested in this at all. I would usually say \"it is not clear\nwhat advantage this has\", but in this case, I would rather say \"it is\nclear there is no advantage in this\".\n"}]}