{"thread":{"id":"10249","subject":"Suggestion for mailing lists... split [PATCH]-es into own list","startedAt":"2007-10-11T15:57:38Z","lastAt":"2007-10-12T10:05:41Z","messageCount":13,"participants":["Thomas Harning Jr.","Johannes Schindelin","银平","Jean-Luc Herren","Steven Grimm","Alex Riesen","Baz","franky","Martin Langhoff","Simon Sasburg","Lars Hjemli"],"isPatch":true,"patchVersion":1,"patchTotal":null},"messages":[{"id":"55479","messageId":"e47324780710110857s472bf099u3e350d17a2c29f78@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"10249","inReplyTo":null,"subject":"Suggestion for mailing lists... split [PATCH]-es into own list","fromName":"Thomas Harning Jr.","fromEmail":"harningt@gmail.com","sentAt":"2007-10-11T15:57:38Z","receivedAt":"2007-10-11T15:57:38Z","isPatch":true,"sender":{"key":"harningt@gmail.com","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/a79ddd43da8c8f1f899cd75b7b95cc5f3b2ba5643400468988b1a12c86b75d08?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"I use gmail as my mail client and it doesn't grok 'PATCH' filters\n(primarily the case of the word).\n\nAre there any of you using Gmail that has managed to get around this issue....?\n\nPerhaps we should have a separate mailing list for patches vs discussion.\n\n-- \nThomas Harning Jr.\n"},{"id":"55480","messageId":"Pine.LNX.4.64.0710111704570.4174@racer.site","threadId":"10249","inReplyTo":"e47324780710110857s472bf099u3e350d17a2c29f78@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: Suggestion for mailing lists... split [PATCH]-es into own list","fromName":"Johannes Schindelin","fromEmail":"johannes.schindelin@gmx.de","sentAt":"2007-10-11T16:07:23Z","receivedAt":"2007-10-11T16:07:23Z","isPatch":true,"sender":{"key":"johannes.schindelin@gmx.de","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/127790?v=4"},"body":"Hi,\n\nOn Thu, 11 Oct 2007, Thomas Harning Jr. wrote:\n\n> I use gmail as my mail client and it doesn't grok 'PATCH' filters \n> (primarily the case of the word).\n\nThat's just another bug in gmail.\n\n> Are there any of you using Gmail that has managed to get around this \n> issue....?\n\nWe did not even find a way to post patches via gmail's web interface, not \nwithout severely damaging the patches. So I guess no, most of us avoid \nthe web interface (unless absolutely necessary, in which case we resort to \nthe less than brilliant solution to attach the patches).\n\n> Perhaps we should have a separate mailing list for patches vs \n> discussion.\n\nI, for one, am totally opposed to this split. All too often valuable \n_user_ discussions turn into _technical_ discussions, and thence into a \nthrowing back and forth patches.\n\nCiao,\nDscho\n"},{"id":"55484","messageId":"20071011163746.DEB147E6F@mail.kooxoo.com","threadId":"10249","inReplyTo":"Pine.LNX.4.64.0710111704570.4174@racer.site","subject":"Is it possible for git to support binary differencing for binary files?","fromName":"银平","fromEmail":"yinping@kooxoo.com","sentAt":"2007-10-11T16:37:43Z","receivedAt":"2007-10-11T16:37:43Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"yinping@kooxoo.com","avatar":null},"body":"Hi. \nStoring binary files as deltas is helpful to keep source and binary files\ntogether and in sync So is it possible for git to do that as svn. This is\nmy only pain when using git.\n"},{"id":"55487","messageId":"470E633D.8060107@gmx.ch","threadId":"10249","inReplyTo":"20071011163746.DEB147E6F@mail.kooxoo.com","subject":"Re: Is it possible for git to support binary differencing for binary files?","fromName":"Jean-Luc Herren","fromEmail":"jlh@gmx.ch","sentAt":"2007-10-11T17:54:05Z","receivedAt":"2007-10-11T17:54:05Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"jlh@gmx.ch","avatar":null},"body":"银平 wrote:\n> Hi. \n> Storing binary files as deltas is helpful [...] So is it\n> possible for git to do that as svn. This is my only pain when\n> using git.\n\nYes, and git does this already in pack files. Maybe you're not\nseeing it because you haven't packed anything yet. Try to run\n'git gc'.\n\njlh\n"},{"id":"55488","messageId":"470E64C0.1070904@midwinter.com","threadId":"10249","inReplyTo":"e47324780710110857s472bf099u3e350d17a2c29f78@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: Suggestion for mailing lists... split [PATCH]-es into own list","fromName":"Steven Grimm","fromEmail":"koreth@midwinter.com","sentAt":"2007-10-11T18:00:32Z","receivedAt":"2007-10-11T18:00:32Z","isPatch":true,"sender":{"key":"koreth@midwinter.com","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/71b4d2e8b62f168bdc9e9205341159e3567003b4f9e2127c617c5fa0a1f5bad2?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"Thomas Harning Jr. wrote:\n> Perhaps we should have a separate mailing list for patches vs discussion.\n> \n\nThis list is somewhat unusual in that the two are not really distinct. \nMost of the discussion (or at least a huge percentage of it) is in \nresponse to patches or results in patches somewhere along the line, with \nupdated versions of those patches intermingled with feedback. Having to \nbounce back and forth between two mailing lists for all that would \nseriously impair the flow of ideas / improvements here.\n\n-Steve\n"},{"id":"55490","messageId":"20071011181518.GB2804@steel.home","threadId":"10249","inReplyTo":"20071011163746.DEB147E6F@mail.kooxoo.com","subject":"Re: Is it possible for git to support binary differencing for binary files?","fromName":"Alex Riesen","fromEmail":"raa.lkml@gmail.com","sentAt":"2007-10-11T18:15:18Z","receivedAt":"2007-10-11T18:15:18Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"raa.lkml@gmail.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/324101?v=4"},"body":"银平, Thu, Oct 11, 2007 18:37:43 +0200:\n> Hi. \n> Storing binary files as deltas is helpful to keep source and binary files\n> together and in sync So is it possible for git to do that as svn. This is\n> my only pain when using git.\n\nWhy? Git works perfectly with binary files. In fact, some of my repos\nhave more binaries than text.\n"},{"id":"55518","messageId":"2faad3050710111553x3ec8a2abh1ec20f2683a019dd@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"10249","inReplyTo":"e47324780710110857s472bf099u3e350d17a2c29f78@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: Suggestion for mailing lists... split [PATCH]-es into own list","fromName":"Baz","fromEmail":"brian.ewins@gmail.com","sentAt":"2007-10-11T22:53:38Z","receivedAt":"2007-10-11T22:53:38Z","isPatch":true,"sender":{"key":"brian.ewins@gmail.com","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/9ac03d89105e50a7151e695a1b4b1228151064ec3ac380a73b74ab397796baf7?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"On 11/10/2007, Thomas Harning Jr. wrote:\n> I use gmail as my mail client and it doesn't grok 'PATCH' filters\n> (primarily the case of the word).\n>\n> Are there any of you using Gmail that has managed to get around this issue....?\n\nTry this in the 'has the words' box (the whole thing):\nto:git@vger.kernel.org -(\"+++ b\" subject:\"[PATCH\")\n\nObviously get rid of the '-' for the other filter you'll want. Patches\nthat lead to discussion will probably get both tags. The \"+++ b\" is so\nyou don't class mails that don't have a patch in the body as patch\nmails.\n\n> Perhaps we should have a separate mailing list for patches vs discussion.\n>\n> --\n> Thomas Harning Jr.\n> -\n> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line \"unsubscribe git\" in\n> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org\n> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html\n>\n"},{"id":"55519","messageId":"20071012030112.024F27E6F@mail.kooxoo.com","threadId":"10249","inReplyTo":"470E633D.8060107@gmx.ch","subject":"RE: Is it possible for git to support binary differencing for binary files?","fromName":"franky","fromEmail":"yinping@kooxoo.com","sentAt":"2007-10-12T03:01:05Z","receivedAt":"2007-10-12T03:01:05Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"yinping@kooxoo.com","avatar":null},"body":"git-gc works perfectly! Thanks all very much. \n\n-----Original Message-----\nFrom: Jean-Luc Herren [mailto:jlh@gmx.ch] \nSent: Friday, October 12, 2007 1:54 AM\nTo: 银平\nCc: git@vger.kernel.org\nSubject: Re: Is it possible for git to support binary differencing for\nbinary files?\n\n银平 wrote:\n> Hi. \n> Storing binary files as deltas is helpful [...] So is it\n> possible for git to do that as svn. This is my only pain when\n> using git.\n\nYes, and git does this already in pack files. Maybe you're not\nseeing it because you haven't packed anything yet. Try to run\n'git gc'.\n\njlh\n"},{"id":"55524","messageId":"46a038f90710112150r16b566c6q8f2a58250d803347@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"10249","inReplyTo":"Pine.LNX.4.64.0710111704570.4174@racer.site","subject":"Re: Suggestion for mailing lists... split [PATCH]-es into own list","fromName":"Martin Langhoff","fromEmail":"martin.langhoff@gmail.com","sentAt":"2007-10-12T04:50:41Z","receivedAt":"2007-10-12T04:50:41Z","isPatch":true,"sender":{"key":"martin.langhoff@gmail.com","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/1e3f311b6c4c15836501901ca58f8c0b0667246488084ba524d8bc9867e22fd9?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"On 10/12/07, Johannes Schindelin wrote:\n> I, for one, am totally opposed to this split. All too often valuable\n> _user_ discussions turn into _technical_ discussions, and thence into a\n> throwing back and forth patches.\n\nmee too! - I think it's the kind of development culture that\nLinus tries to foster, and I suspect Junio likes too: \"talk in\npatches\" which is a lot more productive than \"talk like a pirate\",\nbikeshedding and other maladies that can fester in mailing lists.\n\nSo no split for me ;-) We have the additional alibi that git users are\nsupposed to be programmers.\n\n\n\nm\n"},{"id":"55530","messageId":"981e6de60710120027j5f390a9tbe2a4c76db9ed06d@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"10249","inReplyTo":"Pine.LNX.4.64.0710111704570.4174@racer.site","subject":"Re: Suggestion for mailing lists... split [PATCH]-es into own list","fromName":"Simon Sasburg","fromEmail":"simon.sasburg@gmail.com","sentAt":"2007-10-12T07:27:42Z","receivedAt":"2007-10-12T07:27:42Z","isPatch":true,"sender":{"key":"simon.sasburg@gmail.com","avatar":null},"body":"On 10/11/07, Johannes Schindelin wrote:\n> We did not even find a way to post patches via gmail's web interface, not\n> without severely damaging the patches.\n\nOh? Turning off Rich formatting and copy/pasting the patch from my\neditor worked for me.\n"},{"id":"55532","messageId":"8c5c35580710120126x51c300bfu4345b8c6315d953c@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"10249","inReplyTo":"981e6de60710120027j5f390a9tbe2a4c76db9ed06d@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: Suggestion for mailing lists... split [PATCH]-es into own list","fromName":"Lars Hjemli","fromEmail":"lh@elementstorage.no","sentAt":"2007-10-12T08:26:31Z","receivedAt":"2007-10-12T08:26:31Z","isPatch":true,"sender":{"key":"lh@elementstorage.no","avatar":null},"body":"On 10/12/07, Simon Sasburg wrote:\n> On 10/11/07, Johannes Schindelin wrote:\n> > We did not even find a way to post patches via gmail's web interface, not\n> > without severely damaging the patches.\n>\n> Oh? Turning off Rich formatting and copy/pasting the patch from my\n> editor worked for me.\n\nThe problem occurs when gmail decides to wrap the lines in the patch\n(max 72 chars per line, I guess).\n\n--\nlarsh\n"},{"id":"55536","messageId":"981e6de60710120251s6fc2cdf9w21083038930eef7a@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"10249","inReplyTo":"8c5c35580710120126x51c300bfu4345b8c6315d953c@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: Suggestion for mailing lists... split [PATCH]-es into own list","fromName":"Simon Sasburg","fromEmail":"simon.sasburg@gmail.com","sentAt":"2007-10-12T09:51:01Z","receivedAt":"2007-10-12T09:51:01Z","isPatch":true,"sender":{"key":"simon.sasburg@gmail.com","avatar":null},"body":"On 10/12/07, Lars Hjemli wrote:\n> On 10/12/07, Simon Sasburg wrote:\n> > On 10/11/07, Johannes Schindelin wrote:\n> > > We did not even find a way to post patches via gmail's web interface, not\n> > > without severely damaging the patches.\n> >\n> > Oh? Turning off Rich formatting and copy/pasting the patch from my\n> > editor worked for me.\n>\n> The problem occurs when gmail decides to wrap the lines in the patch\n> (max 72 chars per line, I guess).\n>\n> --\n> larsh\n>\n\nAh, good to know, then.\n"},{"id":"55539","messageId":"Pine.LNX.4.64.0710121104530.25221@racer.site","threadId":"10249","inReplyTo":"981e6de60710120027j5f390a9tbe2a4c76db9ed06d@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: Suggestion for mailing lists... split [PATCH]-es into own list","fromName":"Johannes Schindelin","fromEmail":"johannes.schindelin@gmx.de","sentAt":"2007-10-12T10:05:41Z","receivedAt":"2007-10-12T10:05:41Z","isPatch":true,"sender":{"key":"johannes.schindelin@gmx.de","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/127790?v=4"},"body":"Hi,\n\nOn Fri, 12 Oct 2007, Simon Sasburg wrote:\n\n> On 10/11/07, Johannes Schindelin wrote:\n> > We did not even find a way to post patches via gmail's web interface, \n> > not without severely damaging the patches.\n> \n> Oh? Turning off Rich formatting and copy/pasting the patch from my\n> editor worked for me.\n\nReally? Even a single space on a single line is retained (last time I \nchecked that did not work)? If so, please amend \nDocumentation/SubmittingPatches.\n\nCiao,\nDscho\n"}]}